Overclocking For A Noob?

toddsmack2k · Jan 14, 2003, 10:34 AM

Okay after being here for a while i have decided i would like to overclock my system.I would like input,ideas and help from all of you here
Here are my system specs.
AMD Athlon 2100 xp
Biostar motherboard m7v1b
2 sticks 256 PC2100
300 watt sparkle power supply
ATi Radeon 9700 pro
Western Digital 80G HD
16x dvd drive
24x10x32 cdrw
stock cpu fan and heatsink
1 case fan
1 slot fan under the graphics card

I am sure i will need better cooling among other things. I am wanting to get a good game plan together so i can do this right. I am also hoping to get all the info i can on how to overclock this rig from everyone here. I do also understand that any advice anyone gives me does NOT make them liable to anything that happens to my computer.I am doing all of this by my own choice and if anything happens to my system well then it is a lesson learned and it is no ones fault but my own. Anyway thanks for any and all the advice you want to give me and i am going to get some sleep now

DriveEuro · Jan 14, 2003, 05:56 PM

OK, dude....... I freaked up my 2100XP by cutting too deep. Listen up. To unlock the 2100XP you fill the gaps in the L1, then connect each bridge. And then you have to reverse the L10 bridges. Change the bridges from open:closed to closed:open. to do this you lightly cut the right 2nd L10 bridge with a pin or something extremely (smaller than exacto blade) then you fill it and connect the left one (filled also)

DaSnIpE · Jan 14, 2003, 06:34 PM

U don't need to connect the bridge u cut open. I didn't nor did anyone else I know who's done it. Just make sure u cut open the 2nd L10 bridge and link the 1st one. Then fill the L1's.

DriveEuro · Jan 14, 2003, 06:42 PM

you don't have to connect that bridge? My god....I swear you told me to do this that and the other thing. SNipe I know for a fact that when I was unlocking my 2100 you told me two different ways to do it and this is another way that contradicts your other ways. BOOoooOOoOoOOOO!!! You made me mess up my processor!!! eh, JK, I don't care anymore.

toddsmack2k · Jan 14, 2003, 10:37 PM

Hey guys dont take this wrong but i have no idea what you are talking about by bridges and l1 and what not i am trying to research all this stuff. so please have patience i need to be told how to for the first time but thanks for the help

DriveEuro · Jan 14, 2003, 11:32 PM

go search for "AXP21K+ Trick" Just trust me on this one. You will understand it much better after you find it. Then come back here and ask questions that you wanna know about. But DO NOT use a Dremel TOOL!! THat's crazy shit. GO look at that website then come back.

toddsmack2k · Jan 14, 2003, 11:48 PM

going there now thanks

ToshiroOC · Jan 14, 2003, 11:48 PM

These bridges they are talking about are connection points that are physically on the top of the plastic packaging part of your CPU around the silicon chip in the middle - they have very small writing next to them with the Lx number, and they will look like small gold dots with black dots between them... If your CPU is visible (AKA you can take off your HSF without trouble...) then take a look, might need a magnifying glass or a jewelers loupe if you have bad eyes though

Jan 15, 2003, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DriveEuro
OK, dude....... I freaked up my 2100XP by cutting too deep. Listen up. To unlock the 2100XP you fill the gaps in the L1, then connect each bridge. And then you have to reverse the L10 bridges. Change the bridges from open:closed to closed:open. to do this you lightly cut the right 2nd L10 bridge with a pin or something extremely (smaller than exacto blade) then you fill it and connect the left one (filled also)

ehem... i seem to remember you thinking i would screw up my processor... but i didnt. But you did... HA

toddsmack2k · Jan 15, 2003, 12:06 AM

Wow!!! Turning a 2100 into a 1600 and it is faster. Is there any other way to do it with out unlocking ie. going into the bios and changing some settings? If not i will read it again and get some definite questions before i mess with unlocking it?

ToshiroOC · Jan 15, 2003, 12:38 AM

Yes, you can raise the FSB without touching the CPU or the multipliers... it will let you realize your maximum CPU speed, though your FSB speed just won't be as good as it could be... but if you are uncomfortable with messing with an expensive CPU (like I was when I first got mine...), then just raise the FSB without regard to multipliers and see how far you get...

toddsmack2k · Jan 15, 2003, 12:52 AM

I think i might try that first Tosh what increment should i rase and should i up the volt while doing this

tigerarmyAFI · Jan 15, 2003, 01:05 AM

um.. before you start overclocking...

do you have a temperature monitoring program?

if so, what are your temps at stock speeds?

ToshiroOC · Jan 15, 2003, 01:19 AM

Well, what sort of cooling do you have? What do you have your ram currently set at? If you ask me, you should not increase voltage unless you have good cooling, because cooling is pretty important for stability with higher voltages... and voltages past the insane point can start to do long-term damage to the proc... I'm not sure how far you can go with the 2100 too - is it a thoroughbred or a palomino?

toddsmack2k · Jan 15, 2003, 01:27 AM

my temps right now are 49-50 at idle that is using speedfan.
i have a palamino core. i am sure i need better cooling but for the moment am wanting to see what i can do with the stock setup before i order better cooling

ToshiroOC · Jan 15, 2003, 01:39 AM

Well, in this case I would recommend somewhat strongly against increasing the voltage... so I would say, in your case, increase the FSB in 2 or 3 mhz intervals, boot into Windows and run a round of Sandra and keep doing this until you start seeing errors. Back down an interval or two, then run an intensive benchmark for an hour or so - if it doesn't freeze, then you are clear and ok at that speed... though if ambient goes up, you might get unstable. Better cooling is pretty important... Also, what is the stepping of your core? It will say the stepping on the physical top of the core - its the first few letters written on the top there along with the first letter of the next line... would look like AGKGA K or AGOIA Y Or something like that...

tigerarmyAFI · Jan 15, 2003, 01:40 AM

chances are you will be limited by temperatures, as to reach high clock speeds you need to increase the voltage, which has a direct effect on temperatures, try not to go much higher than 60c at full load, its safe, just not healthy..

toddsmack2k · Jan 15, 2003, 01:52 AM

thanks guys i am going to mess with it now be back later

DriveEuro · Jan 15, 2003, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by generalstupid
ehem... i seem to remember you thinking i would screw up my processor... but i didnt. But you did... HA

Hmmm...I guess you can't read cuz I said that you would "botch your install." And on top of that I had 3 different people telling me three different ways to overclock. I had people telling me what I read online about the Dremel Tool wasn't the way to do it? So essentially walking through the dark with my legs tied together. Something was bound to go wrong. It is different when you have people all telling you that their way IS INFACT THE WAY TO OVERCLOCK. So really it was uncertainty that fucked me up and several people telling me all different things.

toddsmack2k · Jan 15, 2003, 05:34 AM

Okay i treid messing with the fbs and it really did not like it at all.
in my biod here are my options under cpu host/pci clock
133/33mhz
138/34 "
140/35
143/36
148/37
150/38
155/39
166/33
i tried the first 2 options and it booted up fine with temps running 52-53 but it would not run any benchmarks ie sandra or 3d mark.
I also have a few other questions i have options to turn on my system bios cacheable and video ram cacheable, currently they are disabled should i leave them like that? also fast write is enabled that ok? and my agp is 64m?
thanks for any help i am going to try running in the first 2 settings again maybe

ToshiroOC · Jan 15, 2003, 05:52 AM

Er, you can turn up your AGP apeture a bit, but aside from that, I don't really know what you can do... I would suggest waiting until you have better cooling if you can't get any stability at higher speeds ATM.

toddsmack2k · Jan 15, 2003, 05:54 AM

up to what and what gain can i expect from it?

ToshiroOC · Jan 15, 2003, 06:19 AM

Well, its hard to say, but I would say anywhere from 1/3 of your total ram to 1/2... and it increased my performance and stability with my video card... it really doesn't do much but I have heard of problems happening because the AGP apeture was set too low... thats really it

What kind of errors were you getting when the overclocks failed?

DriveEuro · Jan 15, 2003, 06:52 AM

Look at it this way. The AGP aperture...let's say that your total amount of ram is 512mb. If you set your AGP aperture to 256 then 256mb of your ram is designated just for rendering 3d images for the game. The other 256mb is left for anything else that your computer desires.

toddsmack2k · Jan 15, 2003, 07:22 AM

got ya DriveEuro! Tosh i never got any errors sandra and 3dmark would just stop working or not even load it never gave me any errors

ToshiroOC · Jan 15, 2003, 07:29 AM

Well, them refusing to load is an error in and of itself

Since they are very intensive and complex programs, when you run them they use most of the resources in your computer and so if any of those resources are unstable because of overclocking, you will get a crash, and so they are with using as stressers to see how stable your computer is while overclocked - the fact that they had that sort of error makes me think that you simply don't have the cooling headroom to overclock at the moment... unless sandra and 3dmark don't load at stock either, in which case it would be a different story...

toddsmack2k · Jan 15, 2003, 07:31 AM

i checked and my temps were no higher than 53 degrees and they do load under normal running

ToshiroOC · Jan 15, 2003, 07:39 AM

Are you talking about celcius or fahrenheit?

toddsmack2k · Jan 15, 2003, 07:43 AM

celcius

ToshiroOC · Jan 15, 2003, 07:45 AM

Ya - the chips aren't intended for use at over 60C, so you are getting pretty damn close to the danger zone of temperatures - 90C will probably permanently damage your processor, if not sooner at 70 or a bit more... My proc runs, MAX, at 32C during normal days... its a first-stepping AthlonXP though, so it doesn't overclock much, but its rock stable at the overclocks it can handle...

Jan 14, 2003, 10:34 AM	#1
toddsmack2k It Never..... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,173 Rep Power: 0	Overclocking For A Noob? Okay after being here for a while i have decided i would like to overclock my system.I would like input,ideas and help from all of you here Here are my system specs. AMD Athlon 2100 xp Biostar motherboard m7v1b 2 sticks 256 PC2100 300 watt sparkle power supply ATi Radeon 9700 pro Western Digital 80G HD 16x dvd drive 24x10x32 cdrw stock cpu fan and heatsink 1 case fan 1 slot fan under the graphics card I am sure i will need better cooling among other things. I am wanting to get a good game plan together so i can do this right. I am also hoping to get all the info i can on how to overclock this rig from everyone here. I do also understand that any advice anyone gives me does NOT make them liable to anything that happens to my computer.I am doing all of this by my own choice and if anything happens to my system well then it is a lesson learned and it is no ones fault but my own. Anyway thanks for any and all the advice you want to give me and i am going to get some sleep now __________________ [color=blue]*Bleeding From the Inside Pouring Out, The* *DriverHeaven* Spiral, We Shall Never Let Go Of.[/color]

Jan 14, 2003, 05:56 PM	#2
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	OK, dude....... I freaked up my 2100XP by cutting too deep. Listen up. To unlock the 2100XP you fill the gaps in the L1, then connect each bridge. And then you have to reverse the L10 bridges. Change the bridges from open:closed to closed:open. to do this you lightly cut the right 2nd L10 bridge with a pin or something extremely (smaller than exacto blade) then you fill it and connect the left one (filled also) __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 14, 2003, 06:34 PM	#3
DaSnIpE Driverage Snipe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada or NYC, USA Posts: 372 Rep Power: 0	U don't need to connect the bridge u cut open. I didn't nor did anyone else I know who's done it. Just make sure u cut open the 2nd L10 bridge and link the 1st one. Then fill the L1's. __________________ Antec SX1030 Case - Enermax 431 W Whisper PS - 4 Case Fans -ThermalRight AX-7 With Panaflo Ultra Fan - Sb Audigy / Logitech Z-560 Speakers / Sennheiser HD497 Headphones WD 80GB 7200 rpm HD - Samsung SyncMaster 955DF - LG 16x10x40x Burner / Pionner 16x Slot DVD View my rig http://nl.dodhq.net/Rig/

Jan 14, 2003, 06:42 PM	#4
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	you don't have to connect that bridge? My god....I swear you told me to do this that and the other thing. SNipe I know for a fact that when I was unlocking my 2100 you told me two different ways to do it and this is another way that contradicts your other ways. BOOoooOOoOoOOOO!!! You made me mess up my processor!!! eh, JK, I don't care anymore. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 14, 2003, 10:37 PM	Thread Starter #5
toddsmack2k It Never..... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,173 Rep Power: 0	Hey guys dont take this wrong but i have no idea what you are talking about by bridges and l1 and what not i am trying to research all this stuff. so please have patience i need to be told how to for the first time but thanks for the help __________________ [color=blue]*Bleeding From the Inside Pouring Out, The* *DriverHeaven* Spiral, We Shall Never Let Go Of.[/color]

Jan 14, 2003, 11:32 PM	#6
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	go search for "AXP21K+ Trick" Just trust me on this one. You will understand it much better after you find it. Then come back here and ask questions that you wanna know about. But DO NOT use a Dremel TOOL!! THat's crazy shit. GO look at that website then come back. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 14, 2003, 11:48 PM	Thread Starter #7
toddsmack2k It Never..... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,173 Rep Power: 0	going there now thanks __________________ [color=blue]*Bleeding From the Inside Pouring Out, The* *DriverHeaven* Spiral, We Shall Never Let Go Of.[/color]

Jan 14, 2003, 11:48 PM	#8
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	These bridges they are talking about are connection points that are physically on the top of the plastic packaging part of your CPU around the silicon chip in the middle - they have very small writing next to them with the Lx number, and they will look like small gold dots with black dots between them... If your CPU is visible (AKA you can take off your HSF without trouble...) then take a look, might need a magnifying glass or a jewelers loupe if you have bad eyes though __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 15, 2003, 12:06 AM	Thread Starter #10
toddsmack2k It Never..... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,173 Rep Power: 0	Wow!!! Turning a 2100 into a 1600 and it is faster. Is there any other way to do it with out unlocking ie. going into the bios and changing some settings? If not i will read it again and get some definite questions before i mess with unlocking it? __________________ [color=blue]*Bleeding From the Inside Pouring Out, The* *DriverHeaven* Spiral, We Shall Never Let Go Of.[/color]

Jan 15, 2003, 12:38 AM	#11
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Yes, you can raise the FSB without touching the CPU or the multipliers... it will let you realize your maximum CPU speed, though your FSB speed just won't be as good as it could be... but if you are uncomfortable with messing with an expensive CPU (like I was when I first got mine...), then just raise the FSB without regard to multipliers and see how far you get... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 15, 2003, 12:52 AM	Thread Starter #12
toddsmack2k It Never..... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,173 Rep Power: 0	I think i might try that first Tosh what increment should i rase and should i up the volt while doing this __________________ [color=blue]*Bleeding From the Inside Pouring Out, The* *DriverHeaven* Spiral, We Shall Never Let Go Of.[/color]

Jan 15, 2003, 01:05 AM	#13
tigerarmyAFI DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	um.. before you start overclocking... do you have a temperature monitoring program? if so, what are your temps at stock speeds? __________________ AMD AthlonXP 1800+ ThoroughBred B JIUHB @ 2137MHz Geforce4 Ti 4200 128Mb @ 310/600 (ASUS V8420) ABIT KX-7 333 v1.1 512Mb Micron PC2700 DDR Creative Live! 5.1 Aircooled (45c Full load)

Jan 15, 2003, 01:19 AM	#14
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Well, what sort of cooling do you have? What do you have your ram currently set at? If you ask me, you should not increase voltage unless you have good cooling, because cooling is pretty important for stability with higher voltages... and voltages past the insane point can start to do long-term damage to the proc... I'm not sure how far you can go with the 2100 too - is it a thoroughbred or a palomino? __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 15, 2003, 01:27 AM	Thread Starter #15
toddsmack2k It Never..... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,173 Rep Power: 0	my temps right now are 49-50 at idle that is using speedfan. i have a palamino core. i am sure i need better cooling but for the moment am wanting to see what i can do with the stock setup before i order better cooling __________________ [color=blue]*Bleeding From the Inside Pouring Out, The* *DriverHeaven* Spiral, We Shall Never Let Go Of.[/color]

Jan 15, 2003, 01:39 AM	#16
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Well, in this case I would recommend somewhat strongly against increasing the voltage... so I would say, in your case, increase the FSB in 2 or 3 mhz intervals, boot into Windows and run a round of Sandra and keep doing this until you start seeing errors. Back down an interval or two, then run an intensive benchmark for an hour or so - if it doesn't freeze, then you are clear and ok at that speed... though if ambient goes up, you might get unstable. Better cooling is pretty important... Also, what is the stepping of your core? It will say the stepping on the physical top of the core - its the first few letters written on the top there along with the first letter of the next line... would look like AGKGA K or AGOIA Y Or something like that... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 15, 2003, 01:40 AM	#17
tigerarmyAFI DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	chances are you will be limited by temperatures, as to reach high clock speeds you need to increase the voltage, which has a direct effect on temperatures, try not to go much higher than 60c at full load, its safe, just not healthy.. __________________ AMD AthlonXP 1800+ ThoroughBred B JIUHB @ 2137MHz Geforce4 Ti 4200 128Mb @ 310/600 (ASUS V8420) ABIT KX-7 333 v1.1 512Mb Micron PC2700 DDR Creative Live! 5.1 Aircooled (45c Full load)

Jan 15, 2003, 01:52 AM	Thread Starter #18
toddsmack2k It Never..... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,173 Rep Power: 0	thanks guys i am going to mess with it now be back later __________________ [color=blue]*Bleeding From the Inside Pouring Out, The* *DriverHeaven* Spiral, We Shall Never Let Go Of.[/color]

Jan 15, 2003, 05:34 AM	Thread Starter #20
toddsmack2k It Never..... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,173 Rep Power: 0	Okay i treid messing with the fbs and it really did not like it at all. in my biod here are my options under cpu host/pci clock 133/33mhz 138/34 " 140/35 143/36 148/37 150/38 155/39 166/33 i tried the first 2 options and it booted up fine with temps running 52-53 but it would not run any benchmarks ie sandra or 3d mark. I also have a few other questions i have options to turn on my system bios cacheable and video ram cacheable, currently they are disabled should i leave them like that? also fast write is enabled that ok? and my agp is 64m? thanks for any help i am going to try running in the first 2 settings again maybe __________________ [color=blue]*Bleeding From the Inside Pouring Out, The* *DriverHeaven* Spiral, We Shall Never Let Go Of.[/color]

Jan 15, 2003, 05:52 AM	#21
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Er, you can turn up your AGP apeture a bit, but aside from that, I don't really know what you can do... I would suggest waiting until you have better cooling if you can't get any stability at higher speeds ATM. __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 15, 2003, 05:54 AM	Thread Starter #22
toddsmack2k It Never..... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,173 Rep Power: 0	up to what and what gain can i expect from it? __________________ [color=blue]*Bleeding From the Inside Pouring Out, The* *DriverHeaven* Spiral, We Shall Never Let Go Of.[/color]

Jan 15, 2003, 06:19 AM	#23
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Well, its hard to say, but I would say anywhere from 1/3 of your total ram to 1/2... and it increased my performance and stability with my video card... it really doesn't do much but I have heard of problems happening because the AGP apeture was set too low... thats really it What kind of errors were you getting when the overclocks failed? __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 15, 2003, 06:52 AM	#24
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Look at it this way. The AGP aperture...let's say that your total amount of ram is 512mb. If you set your AGP aperture to 256 then 256mb of your ram is designated just for rendering 3d images for the game. The other 256mb is left for anything else that your computer desires. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 15, 2003, 07:22 AM	Thread Starter #25
toddsmack2k It Never..... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,173 Rep Power: 0	got ya DriveEuro! Tosh i never got any errors sandra and 3dmark would just stop working or not even load it never gave me any errors __________________ [color=blue]*Bleeding From the Inside Pouring Out, The* *DriverHeaven* Spiral, We Shall Never Let Go Of.[/color]

Jan 15, 2003, 07:29 AM	#26
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Well, them refusing to load is an error in and of itself Since they are very intensive and complex programs, when you run them they use most of the resources in your computer and so if any of those resources are unstable because of overclocking, you will get a crash, and so they are with using as stressers to see how stable your computer is while overclocked - the fact that they had that sort of error makes me think that you simply don't have the cooling headroom to overclock at the moment... unless sandra and 3dmark don't load at stock either, in which case it would be a different story... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 15, 2003, 07:31 AM	Thread Starter #27
toddsmack2k It Never..... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,173 Rep Power: 0	i checked and my temps were no higher than 53 degrees and they do load under normal running __________________ [color=blue]*Bleeding From the Inside Pouring Out, The* *DriverHeaven* Spiral, We Shall Never Let Go Of.[/color]

Jan 15, 2003, 07:39 AM	#28
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Are you talking about celcius or fahrenheit? __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 15, 2003, 07:43 AM	Thread Starter #29
toddsmack2k It Never..... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,173 Rep Power: 0	celcius __________________ [color=blue]*Bleeding From the Inside Pouring Out, The* *DriverHeaven* Spiral, We Shall Never Let Go Of.[/color]

Jan 15, 2003, 07:45 AM	#30
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Ya - the chips aren't intended for use at over 60C, so you are getting pretty damn close to the danger zone of temperatures - 90C will probably permanently damage your processor, if not sooner at 70 or a bit more... My proc runs, MAX, at 32C during normal days... its a first-stepping AthlonXP though, so it doesn't overclock much, but its rock stable at the overclocks it can handle... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)