fsb 220,any one?

WyreTheWolf · Jan 23, 2003, 11:38 AM

I didnt see the Wendy's Thread... I dont think ... /me ponders thoughts of double stack cheese burgers (AKA heart attack special) .........

ToshiroOC · Jan 23, 2003, 11:47 AM

Heart attack special is chicken-fried steak, with cream and butter on top... :shudder: fattening goodness... yet so bad... good... and bad....

reno · Jan 25, 2003, 11:19 PM

I had heard that burning in was a myth...because really, there is not a lot of heat being exchanged anywhere in the pin sockets/ram contacts...and heat HURTS transistors...

And I tend to agree, the only thing I've had to "burn in" so far in my life is a panaflo fan...even my friend's 2.4P4 that I overclocked (just to show him it was possible, was scared I'd break it) out of the box to 3.0ghz was fine without a burn in.

Plus I get the most stability out of my Ti500 if I've JUST turned my computer on...I will NEVER hit 280/620 after my comps been on for a minute...but if I boot up, run a bench, and instantly shut down, runs just fine.

Or, does anyone have scientific proof why burn in works?

WyreTheWolf · Jan 26, 2003, 03:26 AM

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Originally posted by reno
I had heard that burning in was a myth...because really, there is not a lot of heat being exchanged anywhere in the pin sockets/ram contacts...and heat HURTS transistors...

And I tend to agree, the only thing I've had to "burn in" so far in my life is a panaflo fan...even my friend's 2.4P4 that I overclocked (just to show him it was possible, was scared I'd break it) out of the box to 3.0ghz was fine without a burn in.

Plus I get the most stability out of my Ti500 if I've JUST turned my computer on...I will NEVER hit 280/620 after my comps been on for a minute...but if I boot up, run a bench, and instantly shut down, runs just fine.

Or, does anyone have scientific proof why burn in works?

All that burn in is ... is breaking in the silicon... kind of like a brand new engine. You dont take it to red line when the engine is new. You break it in.

Myth or no myth... it does help.

ToshiroOC · Jan 26, 2003, 03:34 AM

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Originally posted by reno
Plus I get the most stability out of my Ti500 if I've JUST turned my computer on...I will NEVER hit 280/620 after my comps been on for a minute...but if I boot up, run a bench, and instantly shut down, runs just fine.

That sounds like insufficient cooling, reno - it heats up if your computer has been on too long and starts glitching out...

ToshiroOC

merry · Jan 27, 2003, 08:25 AM

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Originally posted by reno
I had heard that burning in was a myth...because really, there is not a lot of heat being exchanged anywhere in the pin sockets/ram contacts...and heat HURTS transistors...

I couldn't say if it's a myth or not. In some respects it makes sense - no contact is ever perfect, and in the micro-openings of the contact small discharges may appear, which would heat the metal locally. Being golden, they don't oxidize, but on a very small scale the diformities of the metal surface might melt and flatten, improving the electrical contact (or just improving the dynamic parameters, parasitic reactances aso). The vibrations of the connector/card assembly seem more likely to induce an aging effect on the contact, for the better or for the worse - here the car analogy really stands.

These are just speculations, I can't say I ever noticed anything, but then I never ran the hw at any spectacular speeds. Also the people who post empirical findings usually have no means to make proper measurements on the rig (like impedance of the mem address/data lines etc).

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Jan 25, 2003, 11:19 PM	#33
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	fdg I had heard that burning in was a myth...because really, there is not a lot of heat being exchanged anywhere in the pin sockets/ram contacts...and heat HURTS transistors... And I tend to agree, the only thing I've had to "burn in" so far in my life is a panaflo fan...even my friend's 2.4P4 that I overclocked (just to show him it was possible, was scared I'd break it) out of the box to 3.0ghz was fine without a burn in. Plus I get the most stability out of my Ti500 if I've JUST turned my computer on...I will NEVER hit 280/620 after my comps been on for a minute...but if I boot up, run a bench, and instantly shut down, runs just fine. Or, does anyone have scientific proof why burn in works?

Jan 23, 2003, 11:38 AM	#31
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	I didnt see the Wendy's Thread... I dont think ... /me ponders thoughts of double stack cheese burgers (AKA heart attack special) .........