CPU not running at full speed

k_161 · Jan 25, 2006, 07:43 PM

sorry if this is in the wrong forum

i have a intel pentium4 3.00 ghz procaser but the speed is always at 2.50ghz
i dont know whats the problam please help

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FSB=167

motherboard= MSI 845pe NEO

Lowfat · Jan 25, 2006, 08:13 PM

what exact cpu is it?

k_161 · Jan 25, 2006, 08:20 PM

im sorry what do you mean...

its an intel 3.00 Ghz?!

k_161 · Jan 25, 2006, 08:48 PM

ok i tried to set the FSB to 200 ( 15x200=3000Ghz) but it wont let me the highest number is 185 ( 15x185=2700Ghz ) anything higher then that and it well reset to 167 ??

Vikingod · Jan 25, 2006, 09:18 PM

how about your RAM speeds and what type of RAM do you have?

k_161 · Jan 25, 2006, 09:24 PM

512mb (DDR SDRAM)

im sorry but what do you mean about the RAM speed.......and well resetting the cmos help ?

k_161 · Jan 25, 2006, 09:36 PM

i tried sitting the FSB to 185 but all i get is a black screen when logging into windows and then the computer restarts........

please help

k_161 · Jan 25, 2006, 09:49 PM

from everest home ed.

CPU Properties
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4, 2500 MHz (15 x 167)
CPU Alias Northwood HyperThreading
CPU Stepping D1
Instruction Set x86, MMX, SSE, SSE2
Original Clock 3000 MHz
Min / Max CPU Multiplier 15x / 15x
Engineering Sample No
L1 Trace Cache 12K Instructions
L1 Data Cache 8 KB
L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, ECC, ATC, Full-Speed)

Multi CPU
Motherboard ID INTEL I845G
CPU #0 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz, 2504 MHz
CPU #1 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz, 2504 MHz

CPU Physical Info
Package Type 478 Pin uPGA
Package Size 3.50 cm x 3.50 cm
Transistors 55 million
Process Technology 6M, 0.13 um, CMOS, Cu, Low-K
Die Size 131 mm2
Core Voltage 1.475 - 1.55 V
I/O Voltage 1.475 - 1.55 V
Typical Power 38.7 - 89.0 W (depending on clock speed)
Maximum Power 49 - 109 W (depending on clock speed)

CPU Manufacturer
Company Name Intel Corporation
Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/browse/processor.htm

CPU Utilization
CPU #1 / HTT Unit #1 0 %
CPU #1 / HTT Unit #2 2 %

**dj_stick** · Jan 25, 2006, 10:46 PM

it sounds like your ram can't handle the speeds

see if you can drop the multiplier so you're running a CPU:ram ratio of 4:3

k_161 · Jan 25, 2006, 10:54 PM

well i tried to reset the cmos and it didnt help....

can you please explane a little more im new to this stuff

**dj_stick** · Jan 26, 2006, 12:56 AM

In the bios there should be an option to change your ram speed

it sounds like its DDR333, and by trying to put the bus speed up to 800(200) you're trying to put your ram at DDR400, and it just can't make it that high

you'll need to reduce the speed

k_161 · Jan 26, 2006, 01:44 AM

well there is this thing called "DDR power voltage" and its set to 2.5V which is the lowest

k_161 · Jan 26, 2006, 03:52 AM

tried to set the FSB to 187=2800 but it keeps restarting at random so i turnd it back to 167

.

PS:dont know if this helps but i have two CPUs

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jan 26, 2006, 04:58 PM

You don't have 2 CPU's you have one CPU which can execute 2 threads simultaneously.

It sounds like your RAM definately isn't PC3200.

k_161 · Jan 26, 2006, 05:09 PM

WHAT THE HELL is PC3200 ??

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jan 26, 2006, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k_161

WHAT THE HELL is PC3200 ??

No need to get so excited, its just RAM rated to run at 200 MHz

Rasta Monsta · Jan 26, 2006, 05:21 PM

You are using a CPU with your motherboard that is not supported by your i845 chipset. Max FSB is 533 (4*133), so if it runs at 166 you are already overclocking the chipset and memory substantially. It's possible to get to 800, but it would require good memory and increased memory voltage.

Can you copy & paste the Everest report on your RAM?

rasta

k_161 · Jan 26, 2006, 07:20 PM

Memory Bus Properties
Bus Type DDR SDRAM
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 167 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 333 MHz
Bandwidth 2667 MB/s

Field Value
Memory Module Properties
Module Name SpecTek
Serial Number 62E20500h
Manufacture Date Week 8 / 2004
Module Size 256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
Module Type Unbuffered
Memory Type DDR SDRAM
Memory Speed PC2700 (166 MHz)
Module Width 64 bit
Module Voltage SSTL 2.5
Error Detection Method None
Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us)

Memory Timings
@ 166 MHz 2.5-3-3-7 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
@ 100 MHz 2.0-2-2-5 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)

Memory Module Features
Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported
Auto-Precharge Not Supported
Precharge All Not Supported
Write1/Read Burst Not Supported
Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported
Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
Differential Clock Input Supported
Redundant Row Address Not Supported

Memory Module Manufacturer
Company Name Micron Technology, Inc.
Product Information http://www.spectek.com/menus/memory_module.asp
.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_list.php

is this it ?

INSTG8R · Jan 26, 2006, 07:25 PM

Yep Rasta has it right its an 845 chipset and cant run 800Mhz(533max) FSB and the PC2700(133Mhz isnt going to help_

k_161 · Jan 26, 2006, 07:32 PM

...

wow didnt know that anyway should i buy a new RAM or a new motherboard and do you think this mobo can handel a 6800 ultra ?

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jan 26, 2006, 07:35 PM

I'm sure a 6800 would fit in the mobo but the CPU is already being run far below spec and you're already OC'ing it hard.

You may as well just buy a new mobo, that CPU will work in a shiny new PCI-E mobo then you could go get a 7800GTX

k_161 · Jan 26, 2006, 07:47 PM

ok thanks for all the help guys i learned a lot of new things from this problem do you have any good
suggestions for a cheap PCI-e mobo because geting a good 1G+ RAM and the 7800GTX are in my mind
the most important things right now.

again cant thank you enough for putting up with me

Rasta Monsta · Jan 26, 2006, 07:52 PM

If you want to get up & running for cheap, try this:

HERE is a Gigabyte i865 board for $52.
HERE is some bargain Mushkin RAM, 1gb kit for $80.

Can't beat that, and it should run nicely with your CPU and a 6800U.

rasta

wiskerbizkit · Feb 1, 2006, 01:07 PM

that board you suggested doesnt have agp or pci-e lol

Jan 26, 2006, 07:25 PM	#19
INSTG8R DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canadian lost in Norway Posts: 527 Rep Power: 0	Yep Rasta has it right its an 845 chipset and cant run 800Mhz(533max) FSB and the PC2700(133Mhz isnt going to help_ __________________ Sys. Specs. Intel E6600@3.2\|Abit IP35 Pro\|2x1024 Crucial Ballistix PC8500 \|Sapphire HD4870 512\|Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500G SATAII 16MB w/PRT\|SB X-Fi Fatality\|TT Tough Power 1200W\|TT Kandalf L.C.S.\|Samsung 204B 20" 5ms LCD\|Logitech G25\|Logitech G5\|Logitech G15\|Saitek X-52+Pro Rudder Pedals\|TrackIR w/Trackclip Pro 3DMark06

Jan 25, 2006, 07:43 PM	#1
k_161 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	CPU not running at full speed sorry if this is in the wrong forum i have a intel pentium4 3.00 ghz procaser but the speed is always at 2.50ghz i dont know whats the problam please help . FSB=167 motherboard= MSI 845pe NEO

Jan 25, 2006, 08:13 PM	#2
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	what exact cpu is it? __________________

Jan 25, 2006, 08:20 PM	Thread Starter #3
k_161 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	im sorry what do you mean... its an intel 3.00 Ghz?!

Jan 25, 2006, 08:48 PM	Thread Starter #4
k_161 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	ok i tried to set the FSB to 200 ( 15x200=3000Ghz) but it wont let me the highest number is 185 ( 15x185=2700Ghz ) anything higher then that and it well reset to 167 ??

Jan 25, 2006, 09:18 PM	#5
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	how about your RAM speeds and what type of RAM do you have?

Jan 25, 2006, 09:24 PM	Thread Starter #6
k_161 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	512mb (DDR SDRAM) im sorry but what do you mean about the RAM speed.......and well resetting the cmos help ?

Jan 25, 2006, 09:36 PM	Thread Starter #7
k_161 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	i tried sitting the FSB to 185 but all i get is a black screen when logging into windows and then the computer restarts........ please help

Jan 25, 2006, 09:49 PM	Thread Starter #8
k_161 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	from everest home ed. CPU Properties CPU Type Intel Pentium 4, 2500 MHz (15 x 167) CPU Alias Northwood HyperThreading CPU Stepping D1 Instruction Set x86, MMX, SSE, SSE2 Original Clock 3000 MHz Min / Max CPU Multiplier 15x / 15x Engineering Sample No L1 Trace Cache 12K Instructions L1 Data Cache 8 KB L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, ECC, ATC, Full-Speed) Multi CPU Motherboard ID INTEL I845G CPU #0 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz, 2504 MHz CPU #1 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz, 2504 MHz CPU Physical Info Package Type 478 Pin uPGA Package Size 3.50 cm x 3.50 cm Transistors 55 million Process Technology 6M, 0.13 um, CMOS, Cu, Low-K Die Size 131 mm2 Core Voltage 1.475 - 1.55 V I/O Voltage 1.475 - 1.55 V Typical Power 38.7 - 89.0 W (depending on clock speed) Maximum Power 49 - 109 W (depending on clock speed) CPU Manufacturer Company Name Intel Corporation Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/browse/processor.htm CPU Utilization CPU #1 / HTT Unit #1 0 % CPU #1 / HTT Unit #2 2 %

Jan 25, 2006, 10:54 PM	Thread Starter #10
k_161 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	well i tried to reset the cmos and it didnt help.... can you please explane a little more im new to this stuff

Jan 26, 2006, 01:44 AM	Thread Starter #12
k_161 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	well there is this thing called "DDR power voltage" and its set to 2.5V which is the lowest

Jan 26, 2006, 03:52 AM	Thread Starter #13
k_161 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	tried to set the FSB to 187=2800 but it keeps restarting at random so i turnd it back to 167 . PS:dont know if this helps but i have two CPUs

Jan 26, 2006, 04:58 PM	#14
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	You don't have 2 CPU's you have one CPU which can execute 2 threads simultaneously. It sounds like your RAM definately isn't PC3200.

Jan 26, 2006, 05:09 PM	Thread Starter #15
k_161 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	WHAT THE HELL is PC3200 ??

Jan 26, 2006, 07:20 PM	Thread Starter #18
k_161 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Memory Bus Properties Bus Type DDR SDRAM Bus Width 64-bit Real Clock 167 MHz (DDR) Effective Clock 333 MHz Bandwidth 2667 MB/s Field Value Memory Module Properties Module Name SpecTek Serial Number 62E20500h Manufacture Date Week 8 / 2004 Module Size 256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks) Module Type Unbuffered Memory Type DDR SDRAM Memory Speed PC2700 (166 MHz) Module Width 64 bit Module Voltage SSTL 2.5 Error Detection Method None Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us) Memory Timings @ 166 MHz 2.5-3-3-7 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) @ 100 MHz 2.0-2-2-5 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) Memory Module Features Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported Auto-Precharge Not Supported Precharge All Not Supported Write1/Read Burst Not Supported Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported Differential Clock Input Supported Redundant Row Address Not Supported Memory Module Manufacturer Company Name Micron Technology, Inc. Product Information http://www.spectek.com/menus/memory_module.asp .com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_list.php is this it ?

Jan 26, 2006, 07:32 PM	Thread Starter #20
k_161 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	... wow didnt know that anyway should i buy a new RAM or a new motherboard and do you think this mobo can handel a 6800 ultra ?

Jan 26, 2006, 07:35 PM	#21
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	I'm sure a 6800 would fit in the mobo but the CPU is already being run far below spec and you're already OC'ing it hard. You may as well just buy a new mobo, that CPU will work in a shiny new PCI-E mobo then you could go get a 7800GTX

Jan 26, 2006, 07:47 PM	Thread Starter #22
k_161 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	ok thanks for all the help guys i learned a lot of new things from this problem do you have any good suggestions for a cheap PCI-e mobo because geting a good 1G+ RAM and the 7800GTX are in my mind the most important things right now. again cant thank you enough for putting up with me

Feb 1, 2006, 01:07 PM	#24
wiskerbizkit DH ***** hobo Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 467 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	that board you suggested doesnt have agp or pci-e lol