Can't enable DMA on CDRW since I got this ABIT NF7

DriveEuro · Jan 22, 2003, 09:36 PM

Grrrrrrrr. So I need to burn a CD. I can't enable DMA in the bios. In the bios it's either "Automatic" or "Disabled" for DMA. And for PIO it's Auto, Mode 0, Mode 1, Mode 2, Mode 3, or Mode 4. For some reason I can' run DMA on the CDRW since I got this NF7. In windows the CDRW will not write unless I det the IDE cable to "PIO only Mode." It's boggin down my PC. Anyone got a clue how to get DMA enabled again? This is annoying.

Necrosis · Jan 22, 2003, 09:45 PM

Try what I said to do here. http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...&threadid=9741

DriveEuro · Jan 22, 2003, 09:50 PM

Will do. I'll give it a try. Thanks.

DriveEuro · Jan 22, 2003, 10:16 PM

Nope. Didn't work. I tried it several times. I have no clue......

tigerarmyAFI · Jan 22, 2003, 10:24 PM

have you tried re-installing windows or removing the drives from device manager and rebooting? thats pretty much all i can think of.

DriveEuro · Jan 22, 2003, 10:28 PM

Damn, I've reinstalled Windows 2 times in the last two weeks. I don't wanna do it again. I'm on 56k so when I have to update stuff it takes a while. Yes I removed devices and rebooted. I did that with DMA off and also with DMA on. So I have NO clue.

tigerarmyAFI · Jan 22, 2003, 10:46 PM

ok, i just had to make sure you hadnt installed the mobo without re-installing windows aswell (a lot of people seem to do this, and it causes endless problems)

next thing i would try would be to try different combinations or drives on the ide cables, ie. cd-rw on its own, cd-rw on the same channel as a hard drive, or any other drive.. just move it around and see what happens.

there has to be a logical explanation to this, if it worked before theres no good reason for it to not work now. its happened to me a few time but it was alway fixed using any of the above solutions.

oh yeah, and check your IDE leads thoroughly, they arent indestructible and they could have been damaged when you fitted the new mobo.

Veky · Jan 22, 2003, 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by DriveEuro
Damn, I've reinstalled Windows 2 times in the last two weeks. I don't wanna do it again. I'm on 56k so when I have to update stuff it takes a while. Yes I removed devices and rebooted. I did that with DMA off and also with DMA on. So I have NO clue.

Update what stuff? o.o

DriveEuro · Jan 23, 2003, 12:37 AM

Update EVERYTHING that you update from windows update website..... And also I am not totally sure if it did work since I got this new mobo. But this is the first time I've used it to burn since I got the mobo.

tigerarmyAFI · Jan 23, 2003, 01:13 AM

oh yeah, you should also try throwing somone else's cdrw in there (under the exact condition in which the current drive will not work proplerly) and see if it does the same thing, or even just a standard cd-rom drive might be enough.

DriveEuro · Jan 23, 2003, 01:39 AM

Well, someone else's wouldn't happen. Living at home with the parents. They have a drive...but if I take it out when my MA is home she'll go freaky on me. hmmm.....well whatever.

Nuke209 · Jan 29, 2003, 12:57 AM

This link will help you

http://www.blackmaxpc.com/Guides/DMA.htm

DriveEuro · Jan 29, 2003, 04:50 AM

Well here's the real problem... It doesn't enable DMA from intial boot up. When booting up it says that the CD-RW is running in PIO Mode 4...... So I cannot do anything through windows.... DOS already put it as PIO 4....

DriveEuro · Jan 29, 2003, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tigerarmyAFI
ok, i just had to make sure you hadnt installed the mobo without re-installing windows aswell (a lot of people seem to do this, and it causes endless problems)

Actually I did do that... But I have reformatted once since I got the new mobo... I did not do it the day I got it...but I did do it a couple days later cuz I clocked the thing too fast and it made the hard disk corrupt.

WyreTheWolf · Jan 29, 2003, 07:03 AM

The new firmware didnt help, new BIOS didnt help, new cable?

I dont know Euro, you may want to look at trying another drive, it may just be incompatable (seems strange) but I have had it happen before.

Last but not least, email the motherboard company, and the burner company... see what they have to say...

Good Luck!

reno · Jan 29, 2003, 03:24 PM

Actually, a lot of CD-RWs work better in PIO 4 mode. I know that most Ricoh drives and Plextor drives actually prefer you to run in PIO 4 for better burning.

Truth be told, my drive "supports" UDMA 33, but functions best (and at default) in PIO mode...although, I'm perplexed as to why it won't function in XP properly...mine works find without setting to PIO only mode in windows. Hmm...

Talicni_Tom · Jan 29, 2003, 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by reno
Actually, a lot of CD-RWs work better in PIO 4 mode. I know that most Ricoh drives and Plextor drives actually prefer you to run in PIO 4 for better burning.

Truth be told, my drive "supports" UDMA 33, but functions best (and at default) in PIO mode...although, I'm perplexed as to why it won't function in XP properly...mine works find without setting to PIO only mode in windows. Hmm...

what a load of crap...

reasons why cdrw cant work in dma mode:1.human factor,2.bad cable,3.shity cdrw

shuki · Jan 29, 2003, 04:19 PM

both my 24x and 40x lite-on burners work fine in DMA 2 on both my winXP rigs

DriveEuro · Jan 29, 2003, 06:56 PM

Here's the deal. The drive used to run ing DMA on my old AV7-133 mobo. But on this NF7 it runs PIO 4. Why is that bad you ask? Cuz PIO requires much more clock cycles to write. It bogs down the computer incredibly. I can live with it in PIO....but I'd prefer DMA.

RIV@NVX · Jan 29, 2003, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DriveEuro
Here's the deal. The drive used to run ing DMA on my old AV7-133 mobo. But on this NF7 it runs PIO 4. Why is that bad you ask? Cuz PIO requires much more clock cycles to write. It bogs down the computer incredibly. I can live with it in PIO....but I'd prefer DMA.

Then it is MoBo problem - which IDE drivers are you using? Windows standard on NVIDIA's?

DriveEuro · Jan 29, 2003, 07:43 PM

nVidia IDE controller and Microsoft Windows IDE Channels

RIV@NVX · Jan 29, 2003, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DriveEuro
nVidia IDE controller and Microsoft Windows IDE Channels

Not sure - but from what I heard XP standard driver is recommended over NVIDIA's one... tried this way?

DriveEuro · Jan 29, 2003, 08:10 PM

Eh, I'll give it a try....

RIV@NVX · Jan 29, 2003, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DriveEuro
Eh, I'll give it a try....

BTW, I had same problem with my LG burner until I flashed it with some non-official really hard to find extremly slow non-resuming download firmware.

DriveEuro · Jan 29, 2003, 08:43 PM

HAHAHAHA, nice description. I just checked firmware as soon as I noticed this problem two weeks ago. I doubt that there is a new firmware again.

Jan 22, 2003, 09:36 PM	#1
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Can't enable DMA on CDRW since I got this ABIT NF7 Grrrrrrrr. So I need to burn a CD. I can't enable DMA in the bios. In the bios it's either "Automatic" or "Disabled" for DMA. And for PIO it's Auto, Mode 0, Mode 1, Mode 2, Mode 3, or Mode 4. For some reason I can' run DMA on the CDRW since I got this NF7. In windows the CDRW will not write unless I det the IDE cable to "PIO only Mode." It's boggin down my PC. Anyone got a clue how to get DMA enabled again? This is annoying. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 22, 2003, 09:50 PM	Thread Starter #3
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Will do. I'll give it a try. Thanks. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 22, 2003, 10:16 PM	Thread Starter #4
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Nope. Didn't work. I tried it several times. I have no clue...... __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 22, 2003, 10:24 PM	#5
tigerarmyAFI DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	have you tried re-installing windows or removing the drives from device manager and rebooting? thats pretty much all i can think of. __________________ AMD AthlonXP 1800+ ThoroughBred B JIUHB @ 2137MHz Geforce4 Ti 4200 128Mb @ 310/600 (ASUS V8420) ABIT KX-7 333 v1.1 512Mb Micron PC2700 DDR Creative Live! 5.1 Aircooled (45c Full load)

Jan 22, 2003, 10:28 PM	Thread Starter #6
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Damn, I've reinstalled Windows 2 times in the last two weeks. I don't wanna do it again. I'm on 56k so when I have to update stuff it takes a while. Yes I removed devices and rebooted. I did that with DMA off and also with DMA on. So I have NO clue. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 22, 2003, 09:45 PM	#2
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Try what I said to do here. http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...&threadid=9741

Jan 22, 2003, 10:46 PM	#7
tigerarmyAFI DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	ok, i just had to make sure you hadnt installed the mobo without re-installing windows aswell (a lot of people seem to do this, and it causes endless problems) next thing i would try would be to try different combinations or drives on the ide cables, ie. cd-rw on its own, cd-rw on the same channel as a hard drive, or any other drive.. just move it around and see what happens. there has to be a logical explanation to this, if it worked before theres no good reason for it to not work now. its happened to me a few time but it was alway fixed using any of the above solutions. oh yeah, and check your IDE leads thoroughly, they arent indestructible and they could have been damaged when you fitted the new mobo. __________________ AMD AthlonXP 1800+ ThoroughBred B JIUHB @ 2137MHz Geforce4 Ti 4200 128Mb @ 310/600 (ASUS V8420) ABIT KX-7 333 v1.1 512Mb Micron PC2700 DDR Creative Live! 5.1 Aircooled (45c Full load)

Jan 23, 2003, 12:37 AM	Thread Starter #9
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Update EVERYTHING that you update from windows update website..... And also I am not totally sure if it did work since I got this new mobo. But this is the first time I've used it to burn since I got the mobo. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 23, 2003, 01:13 AM	#10
tigerarmyAFI DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	oh yeah, you should also try throwing somone else's cdrw in there (under the exact condition in which the current drive will not work proplerly) and see if it does the same thing, or even just a standard cd-rom drive might be enough. __________________ AMD AthlonXP 1800+ ThoroughBred B JIUHB @ 2137MHz Geforce4 Ti 4200 128Mb @ 310/600 (ASUS V8420) ABIT KX-7 333 v1.1 512Mb Micron PC2700 DDR Creative Live! 5.1 Aircooled (45c Full load)

Jan 23, 2003, 01:39 AM	Thread Starter #11
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Well, someone else's wouldn't happen. Living at home with the parents. They have a drive...but if I take it out when my MA is home she'll go freaky on me. hmmm.....well whatever. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 29, 2003, 12:57 AM	#12
Nuke209 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: St. Paul Posts: 568 Rep Power: 0	This link will help you http://www.blackmaxpc.com/Guides/DMA.htm

Jan 29, 2003, 04:50 AM	Thread Starter #13
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Well here's the real problem... It doesn't enable DMA from intial boot up. When booting up it says that the CD-RW is running in PIO Mode 4...... So I cannot do anything through windows.... DOS already put it as PIO 4.... __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 29, 2003, 07:03 AM	#15
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	The new firmware didnt help, new BIOS didnt help, new cable? I dont know Euro, you may want to look at trying another drive, it may just be incompatable (seems strange) but I have had it happen before. Last but not least, email the motherboard company, and the burner company... see what they have to say... Good Luck!

Jan 29, 2003, 03:24 PM	#16
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	sdf Actually, a lot of CD-RWs work better in PIO 4 mode. I know that most Ricoh drives and Plextor drives actually prefer you to run in PIO 4 for better burning. Truth be told, my drive "supports" UDMA 33, but functions best (and at default) in PIO mode...although, I'm perplexed as to why it won't function in XP properly...mine works find without setting to PIO only mode in windows. Hmm...

Jan 29, 2003, 04:19 PM	#18
shuki DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: in the hidden place Posts: 1,975 Rep Power: 0	both my 24x and 40x lite-on burners work fine in DMA 2 on both my winXP rigs

Jan 29, 2003, 06:56 PM	Thread Starter #19
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Here's the deal. The drive used to run ing DMA on my old AV7-133 mobo. But on this NF7 it runs PIO 4. Why is that bad you ask? Cuz PIO requires much more clock cycles to write. It bogs down the computer incredibly. I can live with it in PIO....but I'd prefer DMA. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 29, 2003, 07:43 PM	Thread Starter #21
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	nVidia IDE controller and Microsoft Windows IDE Channels __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 29, 2003, 08:10 PM	Thread Starter #23
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Eh, I'll give it a try.... __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 29, 2003, 08:43 PM	Thread Starter #25
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	HAHAHAHA, nice description. I just checked firmware as soon as I noticed this problem two weeks ago. I doubt that there is a new firmware again. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024