XP,Vista,Win 7 Driver Support for Audigy,XFI,Xtreme Audio,USB,PCI E Support Cards

Cas123 · Sep 6, 2008, 07:04 PM

Hi, New member posting for first time.

I am running Xp sp2, have a Audigy card, installed Roberts YouP-PAX_Audigy_Series_20e and the latest latest driver 6.10

Problem is that the Microphone fader in the Surr mixer does not appear, and
is not an option to select as an input.

Thanks, Ron...

Robert McClelland · Sep 6, 2008, 08:56 PM

Ok I try the new beta drivers then

So u guys and gals don't want RAR anymore? Let me know. Ya thanks for input I'm hoping my freind comes back soon help on the audigy side

Caliostro · Sep 6, 2008, 11:43 PM

RAR is fine. I dont like these installers. One Bug and everything is messed up.
Some People got kicked out when the older driver should get uninstalled, others got kicked out of the setup when AudCon Setup has a problem.

I think most of the PAX users can handle a unpacked folder with all nesserary files in it.
Reduce all automatic install procedures to a minimum. But thats only my opinion

J-a-k-e · Sep 7, 2008, 02:09 AM

Hey Robert, pax v6.10 works great running on my xtreme gamer card. Only I can't seem to figure out how to redirect bass in entertainment mode. Creatives drivers have a thx control panel that let me set the crossover frequency.

Robert McClelland · Sep 7, 2008, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-a-k-e

Hey Robert, pax v6.10 works great running on my xtreme gamer card. Only I can't seem to figure out how to redirect bass in entertainment mode. Creatives drivers have a thx control panel that let me set the crossover frequency.

Can u show me the pic thanks.

J-a-k-e · Sep 7, 2008, 06:17 AM

http://nvnews.net/reviews/creative_s...t_speakers.jpg Note the thx button right of the speaker selection drop down box on stock creative drivers.

http://techreport.com/r.x/soundblaster-x-fi/thx.jpg here's what the thx panel looks like.

Let me know if you need more info
Thanks

Robert McClelland · Sep 7, 2008, 07:31 PM

Thats old Panel THX there new version in my software suite from summer 2008 edition

dagoung · Sep 8, 2008, 10:54 PM

Hi Robert, i just installed your drivers but i can't have 5.1 sound.
I'm having x-fi fatal1ty and my speakers are the DTT3500 (connected through digital din), i also connect through optical connection from front panel to my receiver (sony STR-DB1080). In both cases i get only R-C-L channels and not RR-RL-SW at all ( i get RR from FR - RL from FL and SW from C). Only when i play a movie i get full 5.1 on my DTT3500 but not on my receiver.
My system information is:
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3, v.3311 (2600.xpsp.080212-0005)
Language: English (Regional Setting: Greek)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 3326MB RAM
Page File: 818MB used, 4391MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.3311 32bit Unicode

Sound Devices
-------------
Description: SB X-Fi Audio [CF00]
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_00231102&REV_00
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1284 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: No
Date and Size: 7/15/2008 18:07:18, 527384 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Creative
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 1, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 128, 128
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 128, 128
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: Yes
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

Before i install your driver i was working the DTT3500 with 4.1 (mini jack connections)and the receiver with optical 5.1 on movies.
Can you please assist in order to have 5.1 in both speakers and receiver for games and movies? What are the settings i need to choose in order to work?

Thanks in advance

Robert McClelland · Sep 9, 2008, 12:03 AM

HI Did u uninstalled from Device manager then run cleaner then reboot then reinstalled? U might have to installed the software again.

dagoung · Sep 9, 2008, 08:17 AM

i did try all that you say but still the same problems (cleaner= driver cleaner pro correct?).

dagoung · Sep 9, 2008, 10:32 AM

I try to uninstall your drivers from add-remove programs but without success neither the volume or creative audio console. I even try with the driver cleaner pro but again without success, it removes the registry and folders but the entry in add/remove list remains. Even though it didn't removed from the list i make a reboot and then try to install the drivers from the original cd but i get blue screen error. I boot in safe mode and make a restore point before your driver installation and now i don't have audio at all and the entries still remains on add/remove list.

Please advice how can i remove your drivers from my system even manually from registry and which folders and files do you use.

nsajuve · Sep 9, 2008, 12:50 PM

Hi Robert. I'm new to this forum and i came across your drivers, everbody talks good about them. So i downloaded the latest version, but when i want to install them it says the HW is not supported. So i wanted to know if i can do something about it myself, because i want to clean install my windows and i need these drivers, so i can't wait for the new set to come out. Can you gently tell me waht to do?? however this is the device id of my card (an extrreme x-fi by the way) :

Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0007&SUBSYS_10131102&REV_00

thank you in advance, and keep on the great work!

Robert McClelland · Sep 9, 2008, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nsajuve

Hi Robert. I'm new to this forum and i came across your drivers, everbody talks good about them. So i downloaded the latest version, but when i want to install them it says the HW is not supported. So i wanted to know if i can do something about it myself, because i want to clean install my windows and i need these drivers, so i can't wait for the new set to come out. Can you gently tell me waht to do?? however this is the device id of my card (an extrreme x-fi by the way) :

Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0007&SUBSYS_10131102&REV_00

thank you in advance, and keep on the great work!

You might want try this set

Pax_X-Fi_Xtreme_Audio_V2.0.rar - FileFront.com

ShortFuse · Sep 9, 2008, 07:51 PM

Hi Robert.
A new version of drivers are available for the Creative X-Fi Titanium here:
Creative Worldwide Support
The filename is XFTI_PCDRV_LB_2_17_0004.exe

The fixes are these:
Supports Dolby® Digital Live and DTS Connect.
Requires the Dolby Digital Live and DTS Connect software pack. Click here to download.
Improves microphone volume level.

I don't know if you're adding the new DTS Connect to your drivers but it might be good to take a look

The DTS Connect pack is available here:

Creative Worldwide Support
The filename is DDL_DTS_PCAPP_LB_1_00_00.exe

Also, if you could take a look into seeing if you can add DDL and DTS Decoding via Optical-IN for these drivers.
Note: These are not the same as the PCI-Express Xtreme Audio cards.

Robert McClelland · Sep 9, 2008, 08:22 PM

Thanks I look into this week

nsajuve · Sep 9, 2008, 11:23 PM

Thank you for your quick reply! i will try the drivers . but i see that there is no sw included in the pack. Can i use the ones proveded by Creative in the installation CD?

Robert McClelland · Sep 10, 2008, 12:45 AM

There is PCI Express drivers but I don't know if works lol. check filefront page. I'm taking week of doing drivers this week I won't get chance do them to next week for pci express users.

Gokou · Sep 10, 2008, 06:31 AM

Hello, I just tried to install the PAX X-Fi v6.10 set on Vista x64 for my new X-Fi Prelude card however it failed and said that no supported device could be found.

Is there going to be support for the Auzentech X-Fi Prelude card in a future release?

Robert McClelland · Sep 10, 2008, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gokou

Hello, I just tried to install the PAX X-Fi v6.10 set on Vista x64 for my new X-Fi Prelude card however it failed and said that no supported device could be found.

Is there going to be support for the Auzentech X-Fi Prelude card in a future release?

Um those drivers aren't ment for Prelude Pluse I don't know how do them yet lol.

Gokou · Sep 10, 2008, 11:36 PM

ahh ok, I though maybe since the card is still based on the X-Fi chip that the drivers might work.

Thanks for the reply

supermario87 · Sep 11, 2008, 05:25 PM

Hi, this is my first post here...i've a big problem with the installation of PAX drivers!

I've downoloaded

Pax_Audigy_Software_Suite8
and
PAX Audigy OS V6.10

extracted Pax_Audigy_Software_Suite8 -> Audigy4 Folder -> Audio Folder -> Setup Folder -> Launched Setup.exe and installed the suitethen extracted PAX Audigy OS V6.10 -> setup.exe and installed drivers.

Rebooted, sound works BUT

EAX CONSOLE DOESNT WORKS
GRAPHIC EQUALIZER DOESNT WORKS

I can just ear the sound, no more settings can be adjusted.

That are my specs

AUDIGY 1 PLATINUM (just card, not connected yet with the 5.25 bay)
Windows VISTA ULTIMATE SP1 32Bit
ASUS P5E3 MB (x48)

Thanks for ANY help

Robert McClelland · Sep 11, 2008, 08:13 PM

Hi Did u used driver cleaner?

supermario87 · Sep 11, 2008, 08:33 PM

yeah uninstall tools included in the drivers plus driver cleaner in safe mode

compunoob · Sep 13, 2008, 07:22 AM

How do you install this set? It has some Xfi and A4 stuff when you unzip it. Do I just dbl click the set up exe in the main folder? Will it auto install all the extra software stuff? Which driver version is in there? Is it fairly recent?

maeher · Sep 13, 2008, 07:32 PM

Hi i'm having the Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series Soundcard and had a lot of bugs with the original driver no i wanted to try the PAX X-Fi OS V6.10 but when i'm trying to install the setup says it doens't find supported products on my pc any ideas?

Robert McClelland · Sep 13, 2008, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maeher

Hi i'm having the Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series Soundcard and had a lot of bugs with the original driver no i wanted to try the PAX X-Fi OS V6.10 but when i'm trying to install the setup says it doens't find supported products on my pc any ideas?

Is your card PCI Express or just PCI if PCI Express it's worng set for u.

Robert McClelland · Sep 13, 2008, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supermario87

yeah uninstall tools included in the drivers plus driver cleaner in safe mode

Ya I know audigy has isssue for sure. lol Don't people my freind comming back in OCT help me with audigy series

Hope so lol

Robert McClelland · Sep 13, 2008, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by compunoob

How do you install this set? It has some Xfi and A4 stuff when you unzip it. Do I just dbl click the set up exe in the main folder? Will it auto install all the extra software stuff? Which driver version is in there? Is it fairly recent?

Hi What sound card u have?

maeher · Sep 13, 2008, 11:02 PM

PCIe... are there other drivers that i can use or must i suffer the bugs of creative?

Robert McClelland · Sep 14, 2008, 12:20 AM

ya for now I look into this comming week

Sep 6, 2008, 08:56 PM	Thread Starter #962
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,241 Rep Power: 193 System Specs	Ok I try the new beta drivers then So u guys and gals don't want RAR anymore? Let me know. Ya thanks for input I'm hoping my freind comes back soon help on the audigy side __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2242746

Sep 7, 2008, 07:31 PM	Thread Starter #967
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,241 Rep Power: 193 System Specs	Thats old Panel THX there new version in my software suite from summer 2008 edition __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2242746

Sep 9, 2008, 12:03 AM	Thread Starter #969
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,241 Rep Power: 193 System Specs	HI Did u uninstalled from Device manager then run cleaner then reboot then reinstalled? U might have to installed the software again. __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2242746

Sep 9, 2008, 08:22 PM	Thread Starter #975
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,241 Rep Power: 193 System Specs	Thanks I look into this week __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2242746

Sep 10, 2008, 12:45 AM	Thread Starter #977
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,241 Rep Power: 193 System Specs	There is PCI Express drivers but I don't know if works lol. check filefront page. I'm taking week of doing drivers this week I won't get chance do them to next week for pci express users. __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2242746

Sep 6, 2008, 07:04 PM	#961
Cas123 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Hi, New member posting for first time. I am running Xp sp2, have a Audigy card, installed Roberts YouP-PAX_Audigy_Series_20e and the latest latest driver 6.10 Problem is that the Microphone fader in the Surr mixer does not appear, and is not an option to select as an input. Thanks, Ron...

Sep 6, 2008, 11:43 PM	#963
Caliostro HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bonn, Germany Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	RAR is fine. I dont like these installers. One Bug and everything is messed up. Some People got kicked out when the older driver should get uninstalled, others got kicked out of the setup when AudCon Setup has a problem. I think most of the PAX users can handle a unpacked folder with all nesserary files in it. Reduce all automatic install procedures to a minimum. But thats only my opinion

Sep 7, 2008, 02:09 AM	#964
J-a-k-e DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Hey Robert, pax v6.10 works great running on my xtreme gamer card. Only I can't seem to figure out how to redirect bass in entertainment mode. Creatives drivers have a thx control panel that let me set the crossover frequency.

Sep 7, 2008, 06:17 AM	#966
J-a-k-e DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	http://nvnews.net/reviews/creative_s...t_speakers.jpg Note the thx button right of the speaker selection drop down box on stock creative drivers. http://techreport.com/r.x/soundblaster-x-fi/thx.jpg here's what the thx panel looks like. Let me know if you need more info Thanks

Sep 8, 2008, 10:54 PM	#968
dagoung DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Hi Robert, i just installed your drivers but i can't have 5.1 sound. I'm having x-fi fatal1ty and my speakers are the DTT3500 (connected through digital din), i also connect through optical connection from front panel to my receiver (sony STR-DB1080). In both cases i get only R-C-L channels and not RR-RL-SW at all ( i get RR from FR - RL from FL and SW from C). Only when i play a movie i get full 5.1 on my DTT3500 but not on my receiver. My system information is: Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3, v.3311 (2600.xpsp.080212-0005) Language: English (Regional Setting: Greek) System Manufacturer: System manufacturer System Model: System Product Name BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs) Memory: 3326MB RAM Page File: 818MB used, 4391MB available Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) DX Setup Parameters: Not found DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.3311 32bit Unicode Sound Devices ------------- Description: SB X-Fi Audio [CF00] Default Sound Playback: Yes Default Voice Playback: Yes Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_00231102&REV_00 Manufacturer ID: 1 Product ID: 100 Type: WDM Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1284 (English) Driver Attributes: Final Retail WHQL Logo'd: No Date and Size: 7/15/2008 18:07:18, 527384 bytes Other Files: Driver Provider: Creative HW Accel Level: Full Cap Flags: 0xF5F Min/Max Sample Rate: 1, 192000 Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 128, 128 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 128, 128 HW Memory: 0 Voice Management: Yes EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No Registry: OK Sound Test Result: Not run Before i install your driver i was working the DTT3500 with 4.1 (mini jack connections)and the receiver with optical 5.1 on movies. Can you please assist in order to have 5.1 in both speakers and receiver for games and movies? What are the settings i need to choose in order to work? Thanks in advance

Sep 9, 2008, 08:17 AM	#970
dagoung DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	i did try all that you say but still the same problems (cleaner= driver cleaner pro correct?).

Sep 9, 2008, 10:32 AM	#971
dagoung DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	I try to uninstall your drivers from add-remove programs but without success neither the volume or creative audio console. I even try with the driver cleaner pro but again without success, it removes the registry and folders but the entry in add/remove list remains. Even though it didn't removed from the list i make a reboot and then try to install the drivers from the original cd but i get blue screen error. I boot in safe mode and make a restore point before your driver installation and now i don't have audio at all and the entries still remains on add/remove list. Please advice how can i remove your drivers from my system even manually from registry and which folders and files do you use.

Sep 9, 2008, 12:50 PM	#972
nsajuve HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Hi Robert. I'm new to this forum and i came across your drivers, everbody talks good about them. So i downloaded the latest version, but when i want to install them it says the HW is not supported. So i wanted to know if i can do something about it myself, because i want to clean install my windows and i need these drivers, so i can't wait for the new set to come out. Can you gently tell me waht to do?? however this is the device id of my card (an extrreme x-fi by the way) : Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0007&SUBSYS_10131102&REV_00 thank you in advance, and keep on the great work!

Sep 9, 2008, 07:51 PM	#974
ShortFuse DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: West New York, NJ Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Hi Robert. A new version of drivers are available for the Creative X-Fi Titanium here: Creative Worldwide Support The filename is XFTI_PCDRV_LB_2_17_0004.exe The fixes are these: Supports Dolby® Digital Live and DTS Connect. Requires the Dolby Digital Live and DTS Connect software pack. Click here to download. Improves microphone volume level. I don't know if you're adding the new DTS Connect to your drivers but it might be good to take a look The DTS Connect pack is available here: Creative Worldwide Support The filename is DDL_DTS_PCAPP_LB_1_00_00.exe Also, if you could take a look into seeing if you can add DDL and DTS Decoding via Optical-IN for these drivers. Note: These are not the same as the PCI-Express Xtreme Audio cards.

Sep 9, 2008, 11:23 PM	#976
nsajuve HardwareHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Thank you for your quick reply! i will try the drivers . but i see that there is no sw included in the pack. Can i use the ones proveded by Creative in the installation CD?

Sep 10, 2008, 06:31 AM	#978
Gokou HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 36 Rep Power: 56	Auzentech X-Fi Prelude Support? Hello, I just tried to install the PAX X-Fi v6.10 set on Vista x64 for my new X-Fi Prelude card however it failed and said that no supported device could be found. Is there going to be support for the Auzentech X-Fi Prelude card in a future release?

Sep 10, 2008, 11:36 PM	#980
Gokou HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 36 Rep Power: 56	ahh ok, I though maybe since the card is still based on the X-Fi chip that the drivers might work. Thanks for the reply

Sep 11, 2008, 05:25 PM	#981
supermario87 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Hi, this is my first post here...i've a big problem with the installation of PAX drivers! I've downoloaded Pax_Audigy_Software_Suite8 and PAX Audigy OS V6.10 extracted Pax_Audigy_Software_Suite8 -> Audigy4 Folder -> Audio Folder -> Setup Folder -> Launched Setup.exe and installed the suitethen extracted PAX Audigy OS V6.10 -> setup.exe and installed drivers. Rebooted, sound works BUT EAX CONSOLE DOESNT WORKS GRAPHIC EQUALIZER DOESNT WORKS I can just ear the sound, no more settings can be adjusted. That are my specs AUDIGY 1 PLATINUM (just card, not connected yet with the 5.25 bay) Windows VISTA ULTIMATE SP1 32Bit ASUS P5E3 MB (x48) Thanks for ANY help

Sep 11, 2008, 08:13 PM	Thread Starter #982
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,241 Rep Power: 193 System Specs	Hi Did u used driver cleaner? __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2242746

Sep 11, 2008, 08:33 PM	#983
supermario87 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	yeah uninstall tools included in the drivers plus driver cleaner in safe mode

Sep 13, 2008, 07:22 AM	#984
compunoob DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 104 Rep Power: 0	Pax audigy 20e a4 pro suite How do you install this set? It has some Xfi and A4 stuff when you unzip it. Do I just dbl click the set up exe in the main folder? Will it auto install all the extra software stuff? Which driver version is in there? Is it fairly recent?

Sep 13, 2008, 07:32 PM	#985
maeher DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Hi i'm having the Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series Soundcard and had a lot of bugs with the original driver no i wanted to try the PAX X-Fi OS V6.10 but when i'm trying to install the setup says it doens't find supported products on my pc any ideas?

Sep 13, 2008, 11:02 PM	#989
maeher DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	PCIe... are there other drivers that i can use or must i suffer the bugs of creative?

Sep 14, 2008, 12:20 AM	Thread Starter #990
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,241 Rep Power: 193 System Specs	ya for now I look into this comming week __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2242746