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Old Sep 2, 2006, 11:02 PM   #1
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Prepare for shock. If your reaction to the Muhammad cartoons by these jewish cartoons was anger, then they tell the truth. Sure, these few I gathered are mostly picking on the recent events, like jews provocated Lebanon confrontation ( http://www.wciv.com/showstory2.hrb?f=n&s=343816&f1=loc ) but neverless these pose a good test if the freedom of speech hold, when the subject touch sacred jews

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PS. It is worth to add that from me, as Czech guy, where the atrocity in village Lidice happend (as mentioned into one of the cartoons above), that the nazis are nowhere nearly as inhuman as jews. Nazis do commited many warcrimes, yet in Lidice (and Lezaky) they shoot only men older 15 years, spared woman and childs, while jews openly slaughtering even them! Of course it was a warcrime from both, yet my point is, that nazis at least got killed from us the second most powerfull man in the Third Raich - that was a Hitler favorite guy - so they got the reason to retaliate! And when they can't find the guilty, then they exemplary punished the nonguilty. But witch second-in-power man ever Palestinians or Lebansee killed to the jews that they slaughtering them by thousads...?
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Um..... cartoons (as well as the media) are a long used propaganda tool - people here respect 'evidence' much more - and with out you'll be seen as a bigot.


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wait a second.....

So what your saying is that the jews are worse than the Nazi's just for their retaliation of the kidnapping of two of their soldiers who would probably be tortured to death if nothing was done.


Lest we forget... How many men, women, children were killed in concentration camps as part of ethnic clensing.

wait I think I can find the #'s somewhere.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_W...and_atrocities

"The Holocaust was the organized murder of at least nine million people[citation needed], about two-thirds of whom were Jewish. Originally, the Nazis used killing squads, Einsatzgruppen, to conduct massive open-air killings, shooting as many as 33,000 people in a single massacre, as in the case of Babi Yar. By 1942, the Nazi leadership decided to implement the Final Solution (Endlösung), the genocide of all Jews in Europe, and increase the pace of the Holocaust. The Nazis built six extermination camps specifically to kill Jews. Millions of Jews who had been confined to massively overcrowded Ghettos were transported to these "Death-camps", in which they were either killed on arrival or put to work until the Nazis could find no more use for them, at which point they were disposed of through methods of shooting or mass gas chambers."



Your comparing millions to thousands...


Let me remind you that the Lebanese army is using people as human shields and firing missles from civlian areas.

If your squad is under fire by someone holding a hostage or using them as cover do you ask nicely "O please sir can you move that hostage your using out of the way so we can kill you?" No you return fire.




Man, I didn't want to say this but with 4 posts of political cartoons....you are pretty much an idiot
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Muslims are innocent peace loving people......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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How easy is it for a muslim to convert to anything else?

What is the penalty for people who are not muslims and not even christians or jews if they do not convert according to the muslim's holy book?

Where was the muslim reaction to the attrocities in Sudan?

Since when the middle east includes areas just because the majority of the population is muslim?


For Israel to attack because its soldiers were kidnapped was wrong, but it is not wrong for suicide bombers to kill innocent civilians. It is not wrong for attacks like the one in Beslan (spelling?) where hundrends of children were killed. Where is the outrage of the muslim world then?

Fucking hypocrites.

Muslims are fair and jews are not...right...
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this guy reminds me of someone...

Czech republic.....conspiracy theories....

anyone else thinking what im thinking?
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Since you are referring to one of the posters on this thread, don't you think it would be better to"talk" directly to the person instead of saying "this guy"?
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anyone else thinking what im thinking?
Yes, seems just like that guy who was banned.

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If your reaction to the Muhammad cartoons by these jewish cartoons was anger, then they tell the truth. Sure, these few I gathered are mostly picking on the recent events, like jews provocated Lebanon confrontation ( http://www.wciv.com/showstory2.hrb?f=n&s=343816&f1=loc ) but neverless these pose a good test if the freedom of speech hold, when the subject touch sacred jews
Say lore no. Little people of place not far in mind don't lie in the middle of pipe. Pokes in ladder and in tiny tune of big sigh. Big bahda boom.

It's always the jews fault, I guess they performed one to many circumcisions on people.

I deny you were ever born, please make it true, please make it true. Nope not working.

If your suggesting that Jews are going to riot in the streets and threaten to kill you over your right to freedom of speach, I think one religious group already beat them to that. So I guess freedom of speech already hold.

The great thing about television is that if anything important from anywhere in the world happends, you can always change the channel.

So Nazi's never bombed citys, so they no bad as joows? Guess you never heard of The Blitz or you would never have stated that.

Mind falls down the hole and float up again, the lever is pushed, the swirled is rushed, and sanity is lost again.

Which is worse the ones who use women and children as human shields or the ones who don't?
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Muslims are innocent peace loving people......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

How easy is it for a muslim to convert to anything else?

What is the penalty for people who are not muslims and not even christians or jews if they do not convert according to the muslim's holy book?

Where was the muslim reaction to the attrocities in Sudan?

Since when the middle east includes areas just because the majority of the population is muslim?


For Israel to attack because its soldiers were kidnapped was wrong, but it is not wrong for suicide bombers to kill innocent civilians. It is not wrong for attacks like the one in Beslan (spelling?) where hundrends of children were killed. Where is the outrage of the muslim world then?

Fucking hypocrites.

Muslims are fair and jews are not...right...
The Middle East is a different place than the west. You can't apply our logic with theirs. You have to realize that civilizations develop at different speeds and stages, and they haven't quite developed the way of the west. And the taking of what little they had to give to the Jews (while I am thankful) surely didn't do wonders for them nor their culture. In a culture that has little to offer in terms of diplomacy, their only voice is the voice of violence.

So I feel that laughing at them is not the way to go about things.

My problem with Israel is they are being right, but not being Rightious. While you are right in striking back when you have been harmed, it is not Rightious. And I think being Rightious is the only way for Israel to solve the conflict.
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The Middle East is a different place than the west. You can't apply our logic with theirs. You have to realize that civilizations develop at different speeds and stages, and they haven't quite developed the way of the west. And the taking of what little they had to give to the Jews (while I am thankful) surely didn't do wonders for them nor their culture. In a culture that has little to offer in terms of diplomacy, their only voice is the voice of violence.

So I feel that laughing at them is not the way to go about things.

My problem with Israel is they are being right, but not being Rightious. While you are right in striking back when you have been harmed, it is not Rightious. And I think being Rightious is the only way for Israel to solve the conflict.
I think they have gotten a little tired of their cities and civilians being targeted for terrorist attacks.
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I think they have gotten a little tired of their cities and civilians being targeted for terrorist attacks.
And I think the poor of the middle east are a little tired of becoming the uncounted, uncared for, and disregarded casualties of war.
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I'm sure the poor in the middle east are tired of being ignored by their own governments except when it suits them.
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I'm sure the poor in the middle east are tired of being ignored by their own governments except when it suits them.
That's true of any country. Which is why they fight out using themselves without relying on the government. This is not simply a war that you can shell to death, different tactics have to be used.
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The repeated nazi references are a little below-the-belt.

Fuck the middle east - all of them. We should secure a cease-fire, then completely abandon it and build a wall around it. That INCLUDES Israel. See how long they last without american arms. It's a miserable area of the world full of miserable ideologies that should be left to rot. Not our problem.
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Good idea. Except for the fact that our Government doesn't agree with you. Car companies have been given a few extensions on the date on which they were supposed to have cars that were capable of running without gasoline but they petitioned, and our government being in the pocketbooks of oil companies, complied.

So you've got a problem. You need those people and their resources. So ignoring the problem isn't a possibility.
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If I recall right, Iranians were co-operating with Naziz during WWII, only thing that stopped them was the fact that Allies had to invaid Iran to stop it.
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Then maybe they should talk to or overthrow their governments about that. Because thats how its always been Israel or not.
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But if they take their future onto their own hands and demand better life from their own governments, then they won't be able to accuse Israel, USA, West for their problems.

You know, my favourite part with what is going on in the Middle East is what is going on in Iraq. Muslims kill muslims and the victims accuse the americans for their deaths.
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Then maybe they should talk to or overthrow their governments about that. Because thats how its always been Israel or not.
And maybe we could instrument the overthrow. Wouldn't be the first time. And a lot of the times, things ended up way worse.

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Stop buying oil from Iran!!! The best way to criple it's nuke program!
And when gas prices soar for an actual reason and so many people become unbelievably burdened ad unhappyness and possible chaos ensues. What then?

If gas was 10 bux a gallon, would you be able to afford it?
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First of all.. Military should fight in a f'ing uniform! Dont hide among inocent people! Yes, women and children have been killed (See reason in previous sentence). But "openly", naah come on, dont lie like that...

Ever been to a deathcamp? No? then dont say stuff like that!! prick.
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And when gas prices soar for an actual reason and so many people become unbelievably burdened ad unhappyness and possible chaos ensues. What then?

If gas was 10 bux a gallon, would you be able to afford it?
Well, the prize will go up when all the oil is pumped out in the oil fields. But you could use some alternative fuels in cars to replace normal gas.

Anyways I don't have a car so it's not direct problem... I use bus and other public transportation, buses uses bio diesel that can bee made totally without oil.
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Or force them to step it up to a higher degree because their economy is in shambles and they need to take over the rest of the Middle East's oil reserves- thereby forcing the world to buy oil from them, whether they like it or not.

Reason and Religion are polar opposites from each other on the political front. Reason can't say what the religious will do and the religious can't understand why the reasonable side won't bow to their every wish. After all, it is the will of (insert name of deity here).
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Or force them to step it up to a higher degree because their economy is in shambles and they need to take over the rest of the Middle East's oil reserves- thereby forcing the world to buy oil from them, whether they like it or not.
Why use oil based gas when there is development in non oil based gas?
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Why use oil based gas when there is development in non oil based gas?
Because it is much more expensive. Oil based gas you simply pump out and seperate. Non-oil based gas requires much more substantial and costly processing. And if you mean hydrogen, hydrogen is ultimately an energy carrier not an energy source. You still need another energy source to make the hydrogen, and the least expensive energy source today is fossil fuels. It is all a matter of economics.
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Because it is much more expensive. Oil based gas you simply pump out and seperate. Non-oil based gas requires much more substantial and costly processing. And if you mean hydrogen, hydrogen is ultimately an energy carrier not an energy source. You still need another energy source to make the hydrogen, and the least expensive energy source today is fossil fuels. It is all a matter of economics.
I don't mean hydrogen... I mean biodiesel and ethanol...
Goto Brazil and see how simple is to make ethanol to fuel your car!
If I recall right in tv show called Amazing Race one of the task was to make fuel to car what team was using.
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no, stupidity is a WMD in itself
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because then, if the whole world would go to bio-diesel, hydrogen and what not, all oilcompanys would perish and that wont let the government happen, because they earn big bucks with the oil bussines..
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