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Falstaff · Apr 10, 2003, 02:24 PM

I look just like Drew Carey, and I have been mistaken for him too, ha ha...

Apr 11, 2003, 03:24 AM

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Originally posted by raid517
I still think he's a fekin dumb twat. He is certainly not the best president there ever was. Reagan was a lot smarter and that's saying something. President of the world? Na...! He can shove that idea right up his butt. He certainly is not my president, I didn't vote for him I don't give even the slightest folk (to borrow your term) about him. And BTW propotion just means 'amount', look it up. What I said was a fair proportion/amount of the rest of the world still thinks he's a dumb twat. On the whole, I think that's a fair perspective.

Bush is just a figure head, he simply represents a bunch of vested interests. When the Republicans were looking around for an electable commodity, no doubt they looked at him and thought that people might be dumb enough vote for him because they remembered the family name. It looks like it worked pretty well.

But arguing whether Bush is a dumbass twat or not is pretty poinless , you say he isn't I say he is. So what are you going to do about it?

Lol anyway, this isn't serious debate. I wonder what we will all talk about now all this is over?

Q

focus on the boled stuff... #1. Ok... you have proved me worng. I was thinking of it as like a math term. I'm sorry. the second bold part: i disagree... whether you like him or not he is the president of our country and is not just a figure head. I think that whether we agree with him or not we should support him. Because you not supporting him will not do anything

Also, i know i may have come off harsh in my last post. I am not out to make enemies... i dont want to piss you off and thats not what i was trying to do. I just support Bush and will support him anywhere...

Apr 11, 2003, 03:34 AM

also... i would like to see your Ronald Reagan pull us through the 9/11 attacks like Bush did.

BWX · Apr 11, 2003, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fallang_jeff

raid517 chill man, you sound like an american, ha ha...

What the heck is that supposed to mean? What kind of broad-based insult to all Americans is that?
BOGUS DUDE

BWX · Apr 11, 2003, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by raid517
Lol Jeff, you're probably the most reasonable republican I know...

Q

Do you know what a RINO is?

Republican In Name Only-- How do you know how everyone registered raid? were you there spying on us or something- you THINK you know- you have put labels on me many times and have been dead wrong just to let you know.

Falstaff · Apr 11, 2003, 04:06 AM

BWX232.........definitely an up stater, ha ha

BWX · Apr 11, 2003, 04:43 AM

upstater?

you mean NY?

Yeah, we are the ones that PAY ALL NYC's bills, thank you very much- Supporting all the welfarians (generation after generation) in harlem w/ our tax dollars.

Look who those guys voted in as senetor-- Need I say more?

raid517 · Apr 11, 2003, 05:07 AM

Damn this guy will even try to squabble with people who are pretty much on his side. Lol... anyway whatever. As for labels, you are petty dam good ta that yourself, calling people baby killers and terrorist supporters just because they disagree with your point of view. As for labels, you know what they say, if the label fits wear it.
What I objected to was that kid trying to tell me Bush was president of the world. He sure aint my president - and I reserve the right to tell anybody that trys to tell me he is to shove that particular idea sideways up a very dark place. I think you should get off Jeff's case too, he is one of the few people here that pretty much everyone gets along with. Just because he pointed out you were being an ass with some of the things you were saying doesn't mean you should go on the offensive. He was actually doing you a favour. I mean surely you know just how much rubbish you were talking with some of the things you were saying? Why would you want to embarrass yourself even more? Why not just accept it and move on?

Anyway I can't remember if this is the thread TC threatened to close, but maybe he should. These threads are just decending into petty squabbling and there doesn't seem to be much useful left to say.

Maybe Byteme, The NeonCowboy and BWX232 can all go off together and form a mutual appreciation society. In the mean time I have more important and constructive things to do with my time.

Q

BWX · Apr 11, 2003, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by raid517
Damn this guy will even try to squabble with people who are pretty much on his side. Lol... anyway whatever. As for labels, you are petty dam good ta that yourself, calling people baby killers and terrorist supporters just because they disagree with your point of view. As for labels, you know what they say, if the label fits wear it.
What I objected to was that kid trying to tell me Bush was president of the world. He sure aint my president - and I reserve the right to tell anybody that trys to tell me he is to shove that particular idea sideways up a very dark place. I think you should get off Jeff's case too, he is one of the few people here that pretty much everyone gets along with. Just because he pointed out you were being an ass with some of the things you were saying doesn't mean you should go on the offensive. He was actually doing you a favour. I mean surely you know just how much rubbish you were talking with some of the things you were saying? Why would you want to embarrass yourself even more? Why not just accept it and move on?

Anyway I can't remember if this is the thread TC threatened to close, but maybe he should. These threads are just decending into petty squabbling and there doesn't seem to be much useful left to say.

Maybe Byteme, The NeonCowboy and BWX232 can all go off together and form a mutual appreciation society. In the mean time I have more important and constructive things to do with my time.

Q

Maybe Raid, SH4President, and bluelight should start a "we hate Bush" club. <----Sounds silly doesn't it.
jeff called me an "upstater" - I cannot respond without you telling me about it? I have not insulted anyone, I have just as much of a right to post here as people who don't like Bush and don't like America, in fact you have used more insulting words than me, I have stayed calm and argued with people in a respectful way.
I bash Saddam and BinLaden when needed, yes-- and when people hint of supporting them I ask why or ask for clarification. There is nothing wrong with that. Saddam is a murdering baby killer, so is Bin Laden. I think everyone agrees with that. I have been very careful not to insult anyone, even when I am being called names and basically being insulted myself.

There is nothing wrong with debating and arguing about a subject- as long as it doesn't degrade into a name calling session. You see my point of view, I see yours, we discuss why we disagree. People have been doing that since the beginning of time. Why give up? Why call me names? Tell me why I am wrong. Don't just run away. Most of the time I laugh at the things I hear- I don't get all pissed off, I just tell people why I think they are wrong -IF I do. I don't understand the seriousness from you, the hostility. We aren't in a fist fight- we are defending our views, be glad you can, some people don't have that right.

Apr 11, 2003, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by raid517
Damn this guy will even try to squabble with people who are pretty much on his side. Lol... anyway whatever. As for labels, you are petty dam good ta that yourself, calling people baby killers and terrorist supporters just because they disagree with your point of view. As for labels, you know what they say, if the label fits wear it.
What I objected to was that kid trying to tell me Bush was president of the world. He sure aint my president - and I reserve the right to tell anybody that trys to tell me he is to shove that particular idea sideways up a very dark place. I think you should get off Jeff's case too, he is one of the few people here that pretty much everyone gets along with. Just because he pointed out you were being an ass with some of the things you were saying doesn't mean you should go on the offensive. He was actually doing you a favour. I mean surely you know just how much rubbish you were talking with some of the things you were saying? Why would you want to embarrass yourself even more? Why not just accept it and move on?

Anyway I can't remember if this is the thread TC threatened to close, but maybe he should. These threads are just decending into petty squabbling and there doesn't seem to be much useful left to say.

Maybe Byteme, The NeonCowboy and BWX232 can all go off together and form a mutual appreciation society. In the mean time I have more important and constructive things to do with my time.

Q

ok look... you may not want him to be but Bush IS your president. And all i am saying is that you should support him. Whether you like him or not. As i have already said your disliking of him won't do a damn thing. You just just accept that he's your president and you should support him. Thats it. Period

~~bluelight~~ · Apr 11, 2003, 10:57 PM

Are you telling an Englishman that Bush is HIS president?

Bluelight

Dmac43 · Apr 11, 2003, 10:59 PM

Wow and people call the US arrogant !

~~bluelight~~ · Apr 11, 2003, 11:02 PM

Well i edited the post when i realised i might have got him wrong..but it seems he is saying...that Raid should support Bush......And..maybe i was wrong.

Yeah many Americans are arrogant...i try to keep up...but ill never ....catch...up.

Bluelight

Dmac43 · Apr 11, 2003, 11:05 PM

Dude you far exceed the arrogance of anyone I know or have ever met....

It's interesting to watch you spew your rhetoric constantly while stating that it is opinion, then berate others for having a differing opinion all the while calling it a "Debate".

~~bluelight~~ · Apr 11, 2003, 11:11 PM

Another American....

Bluelight

~~bluelight~~ · Apr 11, 2003, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dmac43
Dude you far exceed the arrogance of anyone I know or have ever met....

It's interesting to watch you spew your rhetoric constantly while stating that it is opinion, then berate others for having a differing opinion all the wahile calling it a "Debate".

Debate...i said that? No ...no no...I call it being sarcastic when being insulted....

Bluelight

Dmac43 · Apr 12, 2003, 12:21 AM

Aw are you feeling insulted??? Truth hurts doesn't it

Oh and by the way yes I am an American and proud to be one...

raid517 · Apr 12, 2003, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by generalstupid
ok look... you may not want him to be but Bush IS your president. And all i am saying is that you should support him. Whether you like him or not. As i have already said your disliking of him won't do a damn thing. You just just accept that he's your president and you should support him. Thats it. Period

I don't support him, I don't give a damn about him. He's not my president, never will be, not this side of reality he isn't, nor is he ever likely to be. So like I said, I still think he's an ass - and there isn't a hell of a lot you can do about it, except maybe implode. Anyhoo, at 16 I don't expect you would remember Reagan. I used to think he was dumb - but as it turned out he was just suffering from the early stages of Alzheimer's. But even though he was a tad nuts and not the smartest card in the deck, as a presdident he knocks spots off of G. W. any day of the week. After all, he at least helped win the biggest war of all time, the cold war - and he did that without even needing to fire a shot. But again, at 16, I don't expect you will remember anything about that.

Q

ToshiroOC · Apr 12, 2003, 02:44 AM

Hmph... I had a lot going on in RL, and I figured that you guys would be able to keep it civil in here and I wouldn't need to check up on things. I was most obviously wrong.

[color=firebrick]IF YOU WISH TO POST IN THIS FORUM, YOU MUST READ [color=orangered]ZARDON'S POST[/color][/color].

This behavior will not continue under any circumstances whatsoever. If you believe someone is out of line, do not post, report the offending post and then IGNORE it! If necessary, you can add someone to your ignore list and never have to worry about them again.

This forum is intended for debate, not mindless bickering and insulting. I do not like closing threads that could potentially lead to decent debate - please do not make me do it again.

Apr 10, 2003, 02:24 PM	#61
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Apr 11, 2003, 04:06 AM	#66
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	quit chasing your tail BWX232.........definitely an up stater, ha ha __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Apr 11, 2003, 11:05 PM	#74
Dmac43 HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: FLA USA Posts: 125 Rep Power: 0	Dude you far exceed the arrogance of anyone I know or have ever met.... It's interesting to watch you spew your rhetoric constantly while stating that it is opinion, then berate others for having a differing opinion all the while calling it a "Debate". Last edited by Dmac43; Apr 12, 2003 at 12:24 AM.

Apr 12, 2003, 02:44 AM	#79
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Hmph... I had a lot going on in RL, and I figured that you guys would be able to keep it civil in here and I wouldn't need to check up on things. I was most obviously wrong. [color=firebrick]IF YOU WISH TO POST IN THIS FORUM, YOU MUST READ [color=orangered]ZARDON'S POST[/color][/color]. This behavior will not continue under any circumstances whatsoever. If you believe someone is out of line, do not post, report the offending post and then IGNORE it! If necessary, you can add someone to your ignore list and never have to worry about them again. This forum is intended for debate, not mindless bickering and insulting. I do not like closing threads that could potentially lead to decent debate - please do not make me do it again. __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Apr 11, 2003, 03:34 AM	#63
generalstupid Guest Posts: n/a	also... i would like to see your Ronald Reagan pull us through the 9/11 attacks like Bush did.

Apr 11, 2003, 04:43 AM	#67
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	upstater? you mean NY? Yeah, we are the ones that PAY ALL NYC's bills, thank you very much- Supporting all the welfarians (generation after generation) in harlem w/ our tax dollars. Look who those guys voted in as senetor-- Need I say more?

Apr 11, 2003, 05:07 AM	#68
raid517 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,518 Rep Power: 0	Damn this guy will even try to squabble with people who are pretty much on his side. Lol... anyway whatever. As for labels, you are petty dam good ta that yourself, calling people baby killers and terrorist supporters just because they disagree with your point of view. As for labels, you know what they say, if the label fits wear it. What I objected to was that kid trying to tell me Bush was president of the world. He sure aint my president - and I reserve the right to tell anybody that trys to tell me he is to shove that particular idea sideways up a very dark place. I think you should get off Jeff's case too, he is one of the few people here that pretty much everyone gets along with. Just because he pointed out you were being an ass with some of the things you were saying doesn't mean you should go on the offensive. He was actually doing you a favour. I mean surely you know just how much rubbish you were talking with some of the things you were saying? Why would you want to embarrass yourself even more? Why not just accept it and move on? Anyway I can't remember if this is the thread TC threatened to close, but maybe he should. These threads are just decending into petty squabbling and there doesn't seem to be much useful left to say. Maybe Byteme, The NeonCowboy and BWX232 can all go off together and form a mutual appreciation society. In the mean time I have more important and constructive things to do with my time. Q

Apr 11, 2003, 10:57 PM	#71
~~bluelight~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,328 Rep Power: 0	Are you telling an Englishman that Bush is HIS president? Bluelight

Apr 11, 2003, 10:59 PM	#72
Dmac43 HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: FLA USA Posts: 125 Rep Power: 0	Wow and people call the US arrogant !

Apr 11, 2003, 11:02 PM	#73
~~bluelight~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,328 Rep Power: 0	Well i edited the post when i realised i might have got him wrong..but it seems he is saying...that Raid should support Bush......And..maybe i was wrong. Yeah many Americans are arrogant...i try to keep up...but ill never ....catch...up. Bluelight

Apr 11, 2003, 11:11 PM	#75
~~bluelight~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,328 Rep Power: 0	Another American.... Bluelight

Apr 12, 2003, 12:21 AM	#77
Dmac43 HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: FLA USA Posts: 125 Rep Power: 0	Aw are you feeling insulted??? Truth hurts doesn't it Oh and by the way yes I am an American and proud to be one...