Hey Bluelight...

Apr 13, 2003, 10:03 PM

why do you seem to be so anti-american-military? We need a military just as bad as the next country. Actually no... somany countries hate us we need one more than the avg country... so tell me... why are you so anti-american-military?

~~bluelight~~ · Apr 14, 2003, 10:13 AM

Well General....first off..i dont hate you.Second..i dont dislike everything about Usa and its politics.

Right now you have a right wing government that performs right wing politics...in everything they do.

Also in military stuff.

Im not right wing.Im left wing.

That is why i argue against much of Usa`s foreign politics.

That might change though.

If your government gets better at talking to other governments.Something that this one..hasnt been very good at.

Instead of talking...they have been dictating.

Apart from that..i like Usa.I have a friend who is 65 years old...Lives in NewYork...comes from Texas..like you.He and his wife visited us this summer... believe me or not..he isnt very fond of Bush politics either..

And..finally...i hope all this ends well now that things are like they are.

Im not so stupid that i would not agree that you have accomplished something in Iraq.

I just hope it lasts and i feel it is a bad thing that the UN was over run and not part of it because it would have been better i think for credibility.

Bluelight

Falstaff · Apr 14, 2003, 02:44 PM

Bush is reelected? It really could happen, unless John McCain runs for president...People are beginning to embrace decisiveness...that would really send a message to the terrorists all over the world that we really mean business..but then, that is a different spin. If the U.N. is successful and France Germany and Russian forgive IRAQ's debts it might relieve the pressure cooker of tension in the middle east...otherwise...Syria might be next...

~~bluelight~~ · Apr 14, 2003, 04:21 PM

Well the debts.....i dont think anyone is calculating seriously on getting that...money...

That money isn`t the issue right now for any of those countries.At least not more than future profits in Iraq arew a concern for American enterprises.
'

The issue is getting this crap to work as soon as possible i suppose.I think that both France Germany and Russia has an interset in this too.Aftter all...............the mideast ....is far much closer to us.........than it is to you.It still isnt working in Afghanistan and Palestine must be solved if any of this is to function as they have planned.

Sharon now says...they will have to make sacrifices (leave occupied territory) in order to get peace...

We`ll see how serious he is about that...

Bluelight

Apr 15, 2003, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bluelight
Well General....first off..i dont hate you.Second..i dont dislike everything about Usa and its politics.

Right now you have a right wing government that performs right wing politics...in everything they do.

Also in military stuff.

Im not right wing.Im left wing.

That is why i argue against much of Usa`s foreign politics.

That might change though.

If your government gets better at talking to other governments.Something that this one..hasnt been very good at.

Instead of talking...they have been dictating.

Apart from that..i like Usa.I have a friend who is 65 years old...Lives in NewYork...comes from Texas..like you.He and his wife visited us this summer... believe me or not..he isnt very fond of Bush politics either..

And..finally...i hope all this ends well now that things are like they are.

Im not so stupid that i would not agree that you have accomplished something in Iraq.

I just hope it lasts and i feel it is a bad thing that the UN was over run and not part of it because it would have been better i think for credibility.

Bluelight

ok... i was just curious...

DallasStar · Apr 15, 2003, 02:49 AM

We need a libertarian to win the election

. No more silly wars and more freedom for citizens... how can anyone disagree with that?

Apr 15, 2003, 02:55 AM

because they would probably also take away most of the army... leaving us verlnurable to many countries that hate us... Including N. Korea who would nuke us the second he got the chance...

~~SH4President~~ · Apr 15, 2003, 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by generalstupid
because they would probably also take away most of the army... leaving us verlnurable to many countries that hate us... Including N. Korea who would nuke us the second he got the chance...

Have you ever asked yourself why many countries hate the US?

FuNsTeR · Apr 15, 2003, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by DallasStar
We need a libertarian to win the election . No more silly wars and more freedom for citizens... how can anyone disagree with that?

ahmen to that mate
down with nuclear power and up with sexual power

that was from some Italian Mp who was a former porn queen Llona staller or something

Falstaff · Apr 16, 2003, 02:54 AM

Regardless of who runs the U.S. we are always vulnerable to aggression, that is why we have such a powerful posture...and our armed forces are volunteers..well trained and confident.

JavaFox · Apr 16, 2003, 03:15 AM

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Originally posted by DallasStar
We need a libertarian to win the election . No more silly wars and more freedom for citizens... how can anyone disagree with that?

I do. While Libertarians stand on the right side of some issues, it wouldn't be good for the country if one was elected president. These people are as radical as communists are. Their biggest fault, particularly in this day and age, is their belief in a purely defensive military, like that of Japan. This is lunacy. The only reason Japan can exist without a military is because we have our bases there. And the only way we can win the war against states that sponsor terrorism is through our military might. Not necessary through war --although they will be necessary-- but also through the threat of war.

That said, I would consider it a great victory if the Democratic Party was wholly replaced by the Libertarian Party. Laws wrought by the LP and the RP would be excellent for this nation.

JavaFox · Apr 16, 2003, 03:21 AM

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Originally posted by fallang_jeff
Bush is reelected? It really could happen, unless John McCain runs for president...People are beginning to embrace decisiveness...that would really send a message to the terrorists all over the world that we really mean business..but then, that is a different spin. If the U.N. is successful and France Germany and Russian forgive IRAQ's debts it might relieve the pressure cooker of tension in the middle east...otherwise...Syria might be next...

Unless Bush choses not to run for re-election, nobody in America has a chance in hell to defeat him in 2004. McCain will not be nominated by the RNC.

I think you are definitely right about Bush, Jeff. Wherever you like him or not, Bush is, at the least, a man that does what he says he will do. When he told Saddam he had to leave within 48 hours, he meant it. No acquiescing, no equivocation, no extensions -- when that ultimatum was up, the bombs started falling (well, it would prehaps be more appropriate to say "The Tomahawks started striking"). Think other nations don't respond to that? Is that why the DPRK is agreeing to have multilateral talks with the US, even though they categorically refused such offers before?

Falstaff · Apr 16, 2003, 06:42 AM

they think Bush might be reelected, that wouldn't bother me at all, and that is not post war rhetoric either, I voted for his dad and went to the Gulf War under his administration. Bush is reshaping the political landscape...He has more backbone that Clinton ever will and he isn't chasing tail in the whitehouse, he is chasing bad guys all over the world....and finding them....I voted for him too, I don't agree with everything he says but he is an ass kicker and a name taker....more than Clinton ever was.....
And the world might just see more Bush than they bargained for in the next two weeks...Bin Laden or his double is on the run....I wonder where he will surface next? the U.S. or the phillipines...I am not f**king kidding.....things are happening real fast now....

Apr 17, 2003, 01:28 AM

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Originally posted by SH4President
Have you ever asked yourself why many countries hate the US?

nope... why saddam (notice how i didn't capitalize "saddam"... shows you how much respect i have for the guy...)

Apr 13, 2003, 10:03 PM	#1
generalstupid Guest Posts: n/a	Hey Bluelight... why do you seem to be so anti-american-military? We need a military just as bad as the next country. Actually no... somany countries hate us we need one more than the avg country... so tell me... why are you so anti-american-military?

Apr 14, 2003, 10:13 AM	#2
~~bluelight~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,328 Rep Power: 0	Well General....first off..i dont hate you.Second..i dont dislike everything about Usa and its politics. Right now you have a right wing government that performs right wing politics...in everything they do. Also in military stuff. Im not right wing.Im left wing. That is why i argue against much of Usa`s foreign politics. That might change though. If your government gets better at talking to other governments.Something that this one..hasnt been very good at. Instead of talking...they have been dictating. Apart from that..i like Usa.I have a friend who is 65 years old...Lives in NewYork...comes from Texas..like you.He and his wife visited us this summer... believe me or not..he isnt very fond of Bush politics either.. And..finally...i hope all this ends well now that things are like they are. Im not so stupid that i would not agree that you have accomplished something in Iraq. I just hope it lasts and i feel it is a bad thing that the UN was over run and not part of it because it would have been better i think for credibility. Bluelight Last edited by bluelight; Apr 14, 2003 at 12:59 PM.

Apr 14, 2003, 02:44 PM	#3
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,047 Rep Power: 206	What if Bush is reelected? It really could happen, unless John McCain runs for president...People are beginning to embrace decisiveness...that would really send a message to the terrorists all over the world that we really mean business..but then, that is a different spin. If the U.N. is successful and France Germany and Russian forgive IRAQ's debts it might relieve the pressure cooker of tension in the middle east...otherwise...Syria might be next... __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Apr 15, 2003, 02:49 AM	#6
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	We need a libertarian to win the election . No more silly wars and more freedom for citizens... how can anyone disagree with that? __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Apr 16, 2003, 02:54 AM	#10
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,047 Rep Power: 206	Your right, more sex less war Regardless of who runs the U.S. we are always vulnerable to aggression, that is why we have such a powerful posture...and our armed forces are volunteers..well trained and confident. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Apr 14, 2003, 04:21 PM	#4
~~bluelight~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,328 Rep Power: 0	Well the debts.....i dont think anyone is calculating seriously on getting that...money... That money isn`t the issue right now for any of those countries.At least not more than future profits in Iraq arew a concern for American enterprises. ' The issue is getting this crap to work as soon as possible i suppose.I think that both France Germany and Russia has an interset in this too.Aftter all...............the mideast ....is far much closer to us.........than it is to you.It still isnt working in Afghanistan and Palestine must be solved if any of this is to function as they have planned. Sharon now says...they will have to make sacrifices (leave occupied territory) in order to get peace... We`ll see how serious he is about that... Bluelight

Apr 15, 2003, 02:55 AM	#7
generalstupid Guest Posts: n/a	because they would probably also take away most of the army... leaving us verlnurable to many countries that hate us... Including N. Korea who would nuke us the second he got the chance...

Apr 16, 2003, 06:42 AM	#13
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,047 Rep Power: 206	At least the N. Koreans they think Bush might be reelected, that wouldn't bother me at all, and that is not post war rhetoric either, I voted for his dad and went to the Gulf War under his administration. Bush is reshaping the political landscape...He has more backbone that Clinton ever will and he isn't chasing tail in the whitehouse, he is chasing bad guys all over the world....and finding them....I voted for him too, I don't agree with everything he says but he is an ass kicker and a name taker....more than Clinton ever was..... And the world might just see more Bush than they bargained for in the next two weeks...Bin Laden or his double is on the run....I wonder where he will surface next? the U.S. or the phillipines...I am not f**king kidding.....things are happening real fast now.... __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."