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Apr 18, 2003, 11:51 PM
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Weapons of massdestruction.
Iraqi weapons of massdestruction where are they???
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COME ON HUSSEIN
You of all people should know where the weapons are, ha ha...
The entire country of IRAQ shall be scoured and the borders of syria monitored, you cannot hide them where we won't eventually find them, if you have sold them yet...to some terrorist organization....right? |
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Apr 19, 2003, 01:05 PM
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Re: Weapons of massdestruction.
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 1441so far only small amounts of vx nerve gas... countless thousands of chemical suits all shiny and new.... barrels un enrished urainum ( what nukes are made off) with UN insection labels on them ... no biggy since the uranium wasn't enriched... YET..but could be used to make drity bombs etc...... not to mention banned weapons like scuds, frogs, chineese ship to ship cruze misles.......... as well as enough arms to arm the enitire poulation to the hilt for eample as many rpg louncers as their are men weomen and children.......... Mr. SaddamHussain4President
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Apr 19, 2003, 02:07 PM
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So far they have found....NOTHING.
If they do....nobody except Americans will accept it as "proof" since it is not and verified by the UN. Now the time has come to whine for months abgout Usa`s weponinspections and how falsely the are performed......and be sure...i will do so....I will post moronic posts about the incaåability of the US and also suggest that you falsley are planted evidence......In exact the same moronic way that somne have been going on about the UN and its weaponinspections and sancrions.....(The ones that made it possible for you to take Iraq in three weeks). In exactly the same way as the rightwing concervatives were whining for a year about the UN inspections. Personally i will consider anything published by Usa about WMD`s found in Iraq as planted by USA since since whatever you do find is not verified internationally and because you refuse the UN to take part in the inspections. :-) Ps....YOU are not telling me they have found CHINESE SHIPS!!!!!!.....man ...that was close!!!!Luckily they found these ships before it was too late.... Scuds?? Was that the Scuds that was said were launched against Kuwait at the beginning of this war that was later said and prooved NOT....to have been Scuds??? Im just curious..... Bluelight |
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Apr 19, 2003, 03:51 PM
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Chinese missles
they were silkworms and Al samood missles, the word SKUD is becoming synonymous with any missle fired by the IRAQI's. We haven't scoured the desert yet, but that will happen soon, we will undoubtedly task another satelite to do the work for us I hope...out there somewhere, in land of Sargon, Nebacanezzar and Assur binapol are the last vestiges of the military machine Saddam possessed..A person could use a low yield nuke out there and probably not create a terrible disruption in the progress of rebuilding IRAQ...
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Apr 19, 2003, 04:40 PM
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Well as i said...you can dig the desert with spades....im gonna reject anything you find unless you allow the UN imspections in.
Ive hears so much shit about Blix and the UN inspectors and the result they have made from Americans all the way up to governm,ent level that i have no intention att all believeing anything your government might have to say about WMD´s in Iraq. That is one of the results you governments anti UN campaign managed to give...and im not alone on that. One could say that this is a moronic way of seeing things. It is.Totally moronic.In fact idiotic.... Just as moronic and idiotic as your governments previous and current campaign against Blix and the UN. The day you government approaches the UN saying...Listen...wanna talk? Then i`ll reconcider. Bluelight |
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Apr 19, 2003, 05:04 PM
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Just now i hear that USA has found proof of that the UN inspectors were bugged when working in Iraq.
How surprising! Now im only waiting that Usa explains why they were bugging other members of the securituy council in the UN building some six weeks ago............ Bluelight |
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Apr 19, 2003, 10:09 PM
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Apr 19, 2003, 10:18 PM
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Apr 19, 2003, 10:26 PM
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Well......Thanks for proving my point.Saudi Arabian.......Hmmm... Bluelight |
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Apr 19, 2003, 10:29 PM
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No im saying that i found the big news about your military finding out that the UN had been bugged in Iraq moronic.....as if they had found out something everybody didnt already know. I also found it ridiculous knowing that you spy on foreign governments inside the main UN building which is supposed to be free from this kind of activity. Bluelight |
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Apr 19, 2003, 10:31 PM
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um yea some of the missles they thought were scuds were frogs (short range tatical missales unacurate as hell used in cold war eara to deliver wmd ie. nukes on the battlefield). But some proved were scuds mr. smarty pants.... silkworms (chinese ship to ship cruze missles) and Al samood missles (crize missles). Wepons that violate 1441 so far we seen much weapons, supplies, ect... comeing for the countries that oppsed the war so much... even documant linking saddam with the russian president in keeping track of the wearabouts etc.. of one osama bin laden
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Apr 19, 2003, 10:35 PM
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"also found it ridiculous knowing that you spy on foreign governments" dont bother to mention that those govermants are spying on us as well  no were is safe from spying ... there are no spy free zones on planet earth try another planet...........
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Apr 19, 2003, 10:38 PM
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Can you provide me with a link that verifies that Scuds have been fired please?
One credible...thank you. No you have not shown any signs of any WDM`S so far.YOu have found nothing. To bad for you. And....should you ever claim that you have found anything then i will dismiss it as planted by you :-) All of the bollocks you said about the Un inspections.......were bollocks. Bluelight |
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Apr 19, 2003, 10:41 PM
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Nobody else than you have the capability to bug.............INSIDE THE UN BUILDING IN NEW YORK....... Thank you Empire for letting us share the info with you!! Bluelight |
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Apr 20, 2003, 03:30 AM
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Saddams defunct arsenal contains lots of little known aspects of his missle program, two silkworms that were fired at my ship, The USS MISSOURI were modified silkworms with smaller warheads and no guidance except horizen leveling, they were fired from a trailer that was wheeled out of a shed in Kuwait, ha ha... I saw the debris from the missle that landed in the market in Kuwait, I know only too well, having actually touched one in Kuwait...a silkworm.... And the missle that landed in the residential area in Bagdad, an unguided missle as well. That I am sure is why the british suffered that patriot missle loss during the first phase of air assualts, they turned off their international freind or foe, flew low subsonically and popped up just over the border and were shot down before they could re energize their identification gear...Their flight path resembled an exocet or silkworm or another cruise missle type..... And as for bugging, well, lets just say that the walls have ears, we operate in an enviornment where we expect our transmissions to be bugged and our conversations to be recorded...it is done intentionally to provide some insurance or assurance as the case may be that our allies are acting on the up and up and our foes are given just enough information to allow us to operate within a low threat enviornment
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Apr 20, 2003, 03:41 AM
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Known missle aresenal of IRAQ
UNSCOM and Iraqi Missiles
Designations Propellant Range IOC inventory Comment Ababil-100 liquid 100 km SA-2 derivative Al-Samoud liquid 150 km SA-2 derivative Scud-B liquid 300 km Al Fahd 300 J-1 solid + liquid 300 km SA-2 derivative Al Fahd 500 solid + liquid 500 km SA-2 derivative Al Hussein al-Husayn liquid 600 km ? 6-50 Scud-derivative Al Hijarah liquid 750 km Scud-derivative Al Abbas liquid 900 km Scud-derivative Badr-2000 Project 395 solid Condor II - Egypt & Argentina Project 144 Project 1728 liquid 2,000 km Tammuz-1 liquid 2,000 km Al Abid Tammuz-2 liquid 3,000 km space launch vehicle These are just a few Blue....
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Apr 20, 2003, 07:00 AM
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Re: Known missle aresenal of IRAQ
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You forgot Al Armstong the one that goes too the moon and back. 
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Apr 20, 2003, 07:50 AM
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lol
thats a good one, ha ha..
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Apr 21, 2003, 08:42 AM
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Bugging is OK
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Apr 21, 2003, 02:00 PM
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No bugging is not acceptable in a place like the UN.None at all.
Had it been the Russians that had been caught in a similar way listening to USA within the UN then all hell would have broke loose. Bugging was also found in the European union headquarters in Bruxelles.Just at a time when they were discussing how to respond to Usa`s dictates about the Iraq war. The techinal level of the bugging was so high.....that only one nations intelligence could possibly have performed it. The equipment had probably been in place a long time. Bluelight |
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Apr 21, 2003, 02:42 PM
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Absolutely correct....
Yes Nixon, didn't keep track of every aspect of his internal information network, and he literally got trapped in his own dialogue, but that is a generalization of course. and bugging is considered par for the course, we refer to it as covert monitoring, Since many of those that wish to serve their coutnries interests in the U.N. are also hostile or perform hostile actas against the United States..
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verafied by whom? saddom hussan or the un inpectors who filed to find them? unless it was verified by the un and the pope you'd still say it was a lie .... you go and belive your little fary tales
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get over it ........
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Apr 27, 2003, 05:00 PM
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[COLOR=limegreen]Neon,
I know you don't agree with Bluelight  But he approachs everything from the European perspective, he rarely provides links to verfiy his statements, but he echos the sentiments from the northern european area, as well as RAID517(england). They get really frustrated with American's because of our air of self importance and cowboy diplomacy. We go all over the world and tell people what to do right? No, but if you watch their news, that is what you see on the news. And they comb all of the left wing, liberal and socialist crap out of what we produce to validate their arguments. That is why I enjoy responding to their posts, even if they are emotionally driven. But everytime a European gets into the forum and gets a little emotiionally involved with their posts, they get slammed hard. I think it would be more interesting if you let some of these folks, however odd they may seem to you, to make a point and back it up, without spinning them of the merrygoround (figure of speech).[/COLOR] [COLOR=orange]Please don't spin them up too much or this forum may become a place of driveby posts and FWZ sweeps by unscrupulous posters......like byteme.[/COLOR]
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cant build up your post count this way......
Lol........."o".....
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The US surelly knows Iraq have(had?) wmd!Cause states sold it to them and Iraq used them in war against Ajatolah Homeini quite sucessfully(Iran is ortodox islam state so they must have beards.So the gas mask doesnt fit your face) and in north over Kurds !
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WMD again?
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The IRAQI military was supplied for the most by French designs and French weapons, as well as soviet style types too. They reverse engineered many weapons and I can assure you they were American weapons. They gassed their own troops as well as the enemy's during the IRAN / IRAQ conflict, this surprised the Iranians, because at that time the missle wars were going on, you know city to city missle bombardment. they definitely had their own ballistic program going without our help. If you examine the history of the gulf conflict the only statement that supports an american influence in IRAQ during the IRAN and IRAQ conflict might be the fact that without some kind of help from us IRAN would have definitely won...do you recall the IRAN/Contra scandal? It was a political black eye for us for sure...
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The IRAQI military was supplied for the most by French designs and French weapons, as well as soviet style types too. They reverse engineered many weapons and I can assure you they were "NOT" American weapons. They gassed their own troops as well as the enemy's during the IRAN / IRAQ conflict, this surprised the Iranians, because at that time the missle wars were going on, you know city to city missle bombardment. they definitely had their own ballistic program going without our help. If you examine the history of the gulf conflict the only statement that supports an american influence in IRAQ during the IRAN and IRAQ conflict might be the fact that without some kind of help from us IRAN would have definitely won...do you recall the IRAN/Contra scandal? It was a political black eye for us for sure[/COLOR]
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