Obama Named Time's Person of the Year

Iria · Dec 17, 2008, 03:35 PM

For having the confidence to sketch an ambitious future in a gloomy hour, and for showing the competence that makes Americans hopeful he might pull it off, the President-elect is TIME's Person of the Year.
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Source: Time

Judas · Dec 17, 2008, 03:50 PM

what a crock of shit...

someone spews the stuff people want to hear from thier mouth (aka, likely 99% of which is pure shit).. and they get coins, plates, thier face on countless things..... more corporate bullshit such as little dolls and crap.

here here for pure gullibility.

dawgXdenta · Dec 17, 2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas

what a crock of shit...

someone spews the stuff people want to hear from thier mouth (aka, likely 99% of which is pure shit).. and they get coins, plates, thier face on countless things..... more corporate bullshit such as little dolls and crap.

here here for pure gullibility.

Heeeeey, wasnt it you who was dissing the same ideology , mmhh

? I cant remember.

saying Zeitgeist was off tangent?

Judas · Dec 17, 2008, 05:39 PM

off tangent... i'm not familare with that...

dawgXdenta · Dec 17, 2008, 05:53 PM

Off tangent: irrelevant, out of touch. I thought that was a global saying, mmh must be local then?

MMhh, just corrected it: to suddenly start talking about a different subject. "We were talking about property prices and you went off on a tangent."

Oh well I use it to mean someones talking irrelevant trash and scoring zero points during a conversation,I mean argument.

Judas · Dec 17, 2008, 05:57 PM

i never said zeitgiest was off tangent......

gruntled · Dec 20, 2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgXdenta

Off tangent: irrelevant, out of touch. I thought that was a global saying, mmh must be local then?

I know what that saying means (but mostly I'm flashing back to high school geometry).

As for Obama, good for him. I hope he's not all talk and no aciton once he get's into office next year.

Apparently my law student friend says both he and his wife are Professors/ lecturers of law at a University in America (Can't remeber which he mentions, Harvard maybe? Wouldn't suprise me).

Anyways, he should know his stuff.

tanka12345 · Dec 21, 2008, 06:08 AM

Sorry if some of you guys are passionate about this issue, but I think Obama deserved it. It was time for change we can believe in.

SFOSOK · Dec 22, 2008, 07:40 AM

I'm sorry....but what the fuck has he actually done, besides be black and win a presidency?

Can anyone please name me off what he has done. How much he has changed the world or bettered it? Last time I checked he was the party bitch, signing everything Big Brother Dem Party has told him to.

tanka12345 · Dec 22, 2008, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SFOSOK

I'm sorry....but what the fuck has he actually done, besides be black and win a presidency?

Can anyone please name me off what he has done. How much he has changed the world or bettered it? Last time I checked he was the party bitch, signing everything Big Brother Dem Party has told him to.

Give him a break man!

How can you expect him to change the world when he isn't even president yet? Can anyone tell me how much President Bush changed the world or bettered it? You don't see anyone arguing over him.

Tinkerhell · Dec 22, 2008, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tanka12345

Give him a break man!

How can you expect him to change the world when he isn't even president yet? Can anyone tell me how much President Bush changed the world or bettered it? You don't see anyone arguing over him.

That's the whole problem, the reason this guy was elected is because his competition had pissed off the whole nation (including much of their own party) and he is black.

That's it. That's all this twit has accomplished. Let me translate that for you - He's done nothing but be black, be liked (loved) by the media, and be a Democrat. Everything thing else in his background is mediocre at best. He's not even that great of a speaker and isn't all that charismatic (compared to like a Kennedy) Maybe he's done enough to look good in a run for a State Congress seat. I don't honestly even know how he got elected to the US Congress.

Here's my question to you - if he ain't even Pres or done anything in that capacity yet, why the hell is he Times man of the year? Answer - he's the first black man elected to the US Presidency. Heck a reason to me...

Zelig · Dec 22, 2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinkerhell

Here's my question to you - if he ain't even Pres or done anything in that capacity yet, why the hell is he Times man of the year? Answer - he's the first black man elected to the US Presidency. Heck a reason to me...

Becuase Time's criteria is "for better or for worse, ...has done the most to influence the events of the year."

You can't really argue that Bezos had more of an effect in 1999 or Giuliani more of an effect in 2001 than Obama had in 2008.

tanka12345 · Dec 22, 2008, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinkerhell

at capacity yet, why the hell is he Times man of the year? Answer - he's the first black man elected to the US Presidency. Heck a reason to me...

Just think about it. Even if he was the person of the year due to his skin color (I'm not saying he was), exactly the same thing may have happened if all the previous presidents were black. The first white preident would have been celebrated as many have celebrated Obama. Even in the event of Hillary Clinton becoming president, she would have been celebrated in the same way, only because of her gender, not her race. Isn't this an inevitable happening, depending on the unique points of the candidate?

SFOSOK · Dec 23, 2008, 01:36 AM

Again, I ask what the hell has he done?

Seems like his supporters are drawing a blank along with the rest of the United States.

Zelig · Dec 23, 2008, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SFOSOK

Again, I ask what the hell has he done?

Seems like his supporters are drawing a blank along with the rest of the United States.

He's generated a lot of news.

I can't name anything Giuliani has done either.

tanka12345 · Dec 23, 2008, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SFOSOK

Again, I ask what the hell has he done?

Seems like his supporters are drawing a blank along with the rest of the United States.

What hasn't he done? He's shown generations that you can live your dream. He's shown us that your skin colour doesn't mean you can't do what you want. He's shown us that the people finally want to accept change. What do you want him to do? What would have McCain done, which Obama can't? In my view it was perfectly fine for him to be TIMEs the person of the year', otherwise who do you think would have been worthy?

Judas · Dec 23, 2008, 03:32 PM

Anyone could have stood at the podeum and shouted the word "change" and got elected.

He hasn't done anything substatial, he likely won't do anything truly benificial. But we'll see...... IMO time is jumping the gun, wtf are people praising someone that hasn't done a gaud damn thing yet?

The praise is misdirect right away as well, it's the people that elected him.

tanka12345 · Dec 24, 2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas

Anyone could have stood at the podeum and shouted the word "change" and got elected.

He hasn't done anything substatial, he likely won't do anything truly benificial. But we'll see...... IMO time is jumping the gun, wtf are people praising someone that hasn't done a gaud damn thing yet?

The praise is misdirect right away as well, it's the people that elected him.

If 'anyone' could have stood at the podium and shouted the word 'change', then why didn'nt someone else win? You could of even became president based on your wording. Again, what did President Bush do that was 'substansial or beneficial'? If he hasn't done anything good yet, what did President Bush do? And by the way Merry Christmas!

OldBuzzard · Dec 24, 2008, 10:51 PM

Big F'n Deal.

Time has also in the past named Adolph Hitler (1938), Joseph Stalin (1939 & 1942), Nikita Krushchev (1957), and Ayatullah Khomeini (1979).

I'd say he fits in well.

Judas · Dec 24, 2008, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tanka12345

If 'anyone' could have stood at the podium and shouted the word 'change', then why didn'nt someone else win? You could of even became president based on your wording. Again, what did President Bush do that was 'substansial or beneficial'? If he hasn't done anything good yet, what did President Bush do? And by the way Merry Christmas!

Anyone did...

The problem is that if it were actually determined by a true vote... would have been neither of the 2 candidates that made it that far.

leva91 · Dec 25, 2008, 07:55 AM

just a link for few samples of some legislative bills that Mr Obama pushed for to become law

Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress):
Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress):
Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress):

leva91 · Dec 25, 2008, 07:59 AM

"He hasn't done anything substatial, he likely won't do anything truly benificial. But we'll see...... IMO time is jumping the gun, wtf are people praising someone that hasn't done a gaud damn thing yet?"

just a link for few samples of some legislative bills that Mr Obama pushed for to become law. sometimes we need to do research before we start judging

Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress):
Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress):
Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress):

OldBuzzard · Dec 25, 2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by leva91

"He hasn't done anything substatial, he likely won't do anything truly benificial. But we'll see...... IMO time is jumping the gun, wtf are people praising someone that hasn't done a gaud damn thing yet?"

just a link for few samples of some legislative bills that Mr Obama pushed for to become law. sometimes we need to do research before we start judging

Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress):
Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress):
Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress):

I clicked on all three links, and got a BLANK PAGE on every one of them.

That's probably about right too

Obama, spent roughly 137 days as a Senator, before abandoning his 'job' as a Senator, and started campaigning for President. He's an empty suit, and not much more than a snake oil salesman.

However, enough people bought in to his snake oil pitch, and we are going to be stuck with him for 4 years. I shudder to think about those 4 years, and what sort of shape we will be in after them, but we survived the Carter years, and we will survive the Obamanation years as well.

tanka12345 · Dec 25, 2008, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OldBuzzard

I clicked on all three links, and got a BLANK PAGE on every one of them.

That's probably about right too

Obama, spent roughly 137 days as a Senator, before abandoning his 'job' as a Senator, and started campaigning for President. He's an empty suit, and not much more than a snake oil salesman.

However, enough people bought in to his snake oil pitch, and we are going to be stuck with him for 4 years. I shudder to think about those 4 years, and what sort of shape we will be in after them, but we survived the Carter years, and we will survive the Obamanation years as well.

Didn't you shudder when President Bush was elected?

SFOSOK · Dec 26, 2008, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tanka12345

Didn't you shudder when President Bush was elected?

No, and neither did most people until they jumped on the "Its cool to hate the president" band wagon like yourself.

Also, Judas forgot to say be black and shout out "change" from on top of the podium.

He's no Martin Luther King Jr. and his loyalty is in the wrong places for the right reasons.

Wishful thinking doesn't get us out of a depression and neither with Times "person of the year"

Again tanaka, you live in New Zealand so it is not you who has to suffer under him.

Therefore your word on this subject amounts to a little under a pile of Dog crap that was freshly steamed here in the USA.

tanka12345 · Dec 26, 2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OldBuzzard

Big F'n Deal.

Time has also in the past named Adolph Hitler (1938), Joseph Stalin (1939 & 1942), Nikita Krushchev (1957), and Ayatullah Khomeini (1979).

I'd say he fits in well.

Are you trying to say that Obama is equivalent to Adolph Hitler? He has not done anything even close to compare himself to the dreadful deeds commited by possibly the most hated man who ever lived.

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Originally Posted by SFOSOK

No, and neither did most people until they jumped on the "Its cool to hate the president" band wagon like yourself.

Also, Judas forgot to say be black and shout out "change" from on top of the podium.

He's no Martin Luther King Jr. and his loyalty is in the wrong places for the right reasons.

Wishful thinking doesn't get us out of a depression and neither with Times "person of the year"

Again tanaka, you live in New Zealand so it is not you who has to suffer under him.

Therefore your word on this subject amounts to a little under a pile of Dog crap that was freshly steamed here in the USA.

If I joined the 'it's cool to hate the president bandwagon' haven't you now? (I'm not really sure if you hate Obama though, you seem neutral.)

He is as close to Martin Luther King Jr. as we can get in modern times. That's why alot of people have stood behind him, maybe with the dream of making him to be like Luther. Although I doubt he will ever be as great as Martin Luther King, he can sure be pretty close (after actually creating change, and doing beneficial deeds).

I know my word basically means nothing as I do not live in the USA like you, but I am passionate about this issue as I believe he deserved what he got. The election campaigns here in NZ are nothing compared to the ones in the USA, and our elections do not get as much publicity, that's why nobody's arguing over our new Prime Minister.

Thanks,

Tanaka

Judas · Dec 26, 2008, 04:15 PM

obama has the potential to lead the country down what martin luther king would figure to be the best route, or down the same path of adolf.

that's besides the point though. Both had the same offerings, same smash vote and acceptance, and until they were in power for a little while, it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

all i see for obama though is 1 or 2 things. perhaps 3...

He is either shot and killed at some point, probably sooner then later. Either shortly after doing some rather great things, or just before.

He becomes the load bearing president for all the previous presidents mistakes and is just a good face on the country that is mostly ran by some fairly insane people.

He IS the president that we shall all be concerned about.

OmegaRED · Dec 26, 2008, 06:34 PM

He made Person of the Year cause of his rock hard abs.

tanka12345 · Dec 26, 2008, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas

obama has the potential to lead the country down what martin luther king would figure to be the best route, or down the same path of adolf.

that's besides the point though. Both had the same offerings, same smash vote and acceptance, and until they were in power for a little while, it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

all i see for obama though is 1 or 2 things. perhaps 3...

He is either shot and killed at some point, probably sooner then later. Either shortly after doing some rather great things, or just before.

He becomes the load bearing president for all the previous presidents mistakes and is just a good face on the country that is mostly ran by some fairly insane people.

He IS the president that we shall all be concerned about.

Well put. So is the argument between us over?

(If it is I'll give you some rep for your good nature

)

Judas · Dec 27, 2008, 02:04 AM

argument?

never was one......

a discussion....

Dec 17, 2008, 03:35 PM	#1
Iria DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 7,275 Rep Power: 89	Obama Named Time's Person of the Year For having the confidence to sketch an ambitious future in a gloomy hour, and for showing the competence that makes Americans hopeful he might pull it off, the President-elect is TIME's Person of the Year. _____________ Source: Time

Dec 17, 2008, 05:53 PM	#5
dawgXdenta HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gabz Posts: 1,995 Rep Power: 135 System Specs	Re: Obama Named Time's Person of the Year Off tangent: irrelevant, out of touch. I thought that was a global saying, mmh must be local then? MMhh, just corrected it: to suddenly start talking about a different subject. "We were talking about property prices and you went off on a tangent." Oh well I use it to mean someones talking irrelevant trash and scoring zero points during a conversation,I mean argument. __________________ Today's world is of public opinion and the fates of nations are determined through its pressure. Once the tools for building public opinion are obtained, everything that you asked for can be done. --- Osama bin Laden when relating how global media has the minds of the masses. ______________________________________ http://dawgxdenta.deviantart.com/gallery/

Dec 21, 2008, 06:08 AM	#8
tanka12345 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 441 Rep Power: 32 System Specs	Re: Obama Named Time's Person of the Year Sorry if some of you guys are passionate about this issue, but I think Obama deserved it. It was time for change we can believe in.

Dec 22, 2008, 07:40 AM	#9
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	Re: Obama Named Time's Person of the Year I'm sorry....but what the fuck has he actually done, besides be black and win a presidency? Can anyone please name me off what he has done. How much he has changed the world or bettered it? Last time I checked he was the party bitch, signing everything Big Brother Dem Party has told him to. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Dec 23, 2008, 01:36 AM	#14
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	Re: Obama Named Time's Person of the Year Again, I ask what the hell has he done? Seems like his supporters are drawing a blank along with the rest of the United States. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

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OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oberlin, OH Posts: 2,783 Rep Power: 145 System Specs	Re: Obama Named Time's Person of the Year Big F'n Deal. Time has also in the past named Adolph Hitler (1938), Joseph Stalin (1939 & 1942), Nikita Krushchev (1957), and Ayatullah Khomeini (1979). I'd say he fits in well. __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY

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leva91 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Re: Obama Named Time's Person of the Year just a link for few samples of some legislative bills that Mr Obama pushed for to become law Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress): Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress): Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress):

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leva91 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Re: Obama Named Time's Person of the Year "He hasn't done anything substatial, he likely won't do anything truly benificial. But we'll see...... IMO time is jumping the gun, wtf are people praising someone that hasn't done a gaud damn thing yet?" just a link for few samples of some legislative bills that Mr Obama pushed for to become law. sometimes we need to do research before we start judging Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress): Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress): Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress):

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OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,688 Rep Power: 173 System Specs	Re: Obama Named Time's Person of the Year He made Person of the Year cause of his rock hard abs. __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs