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A Republican and U.S. veteran called Rush Limbaugh's radio show Tuesday, and told the conservative host that he was one reason the GOP lost, also telling him he was a "brainwashed Nazi" for supporting torture.
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Judas

anyone that supports torture should be locked up and dealt their own form of "medicine" and see what they think after a meer 4 hours

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OldBuzzard

If you are talking about using torture as a 'normal' interrogation technique, yes.

To say that torture should never be used in any situation is being naive. There could be, and have been times, when torture is or would be the only way to get vital information in a timely manner.

By torture, I'm not talking about things like intimidation, sleep deprivation, or humiliation. I'm talking about pulling out fingernails, etc. REAL torture that leaves lasting physical damage. There are some rare times when it could be justified. To take it off the table would not be awise thing to do.

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Zelig

I tend to think that in these situations, people are going to ignore the law, and do what needs to be done, so there's no reason not to ban torture.

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Judas

So your in support of people getting hauled away out of the blue, reguardless of any form of evidence either excisting or not... being tortured with lasting affects or even with the potential to kill, including electricution, having your nutz eating by a rabid dog and so forth reguardless of the innocents of the person?

This is what Nazi's DID before it got real ugly, and anyone that doesn't realize that the US is falling right into the footsteps of that very order that germany fell into, should really do a bit of brushing up on it because it's happening.

Like i've said before, Just because it doesn't appear to be happening as quickly, doesn't mean it's not happening at all.

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OldBuzzard

You didn't read my very first sentance? Here it is again.

If you are talking about using torture as a 'normal' interrogation technique, yes.

Nowhere did I advocate what you suggested. If you are going to debate me, debate what I said, not words that YOU put in my mouth. There is nothing in my post that should have made you jump to the rediculas assumption that you made

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Judas

Even under extreme circumstances.....

You say under normal iterrogation techniques..... i say under all circumstances...

i wasn't putting words in your mouth... i'm just having a hard time diciphering precisely what you mean, and the exact sentence says that you support torture....

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OldBuzzard

Never say never. We have nuclear weapons, and we say we would 'never' use them. But, with our back to the wall, you can damn sure bet that they WOULD get used.

I view using torture in the same light. It would be a last resort only when lives are at stake, and only used if there was no other way.

This article by Michael Levin mirrors my thinking on the subject of torture:
Michael Levin: The Case for Torture

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Judas

reguardless of saving lives... even in the widely used "the needs of the many outway the needs of the few", torture is prohibited.... i don't care if some nation's president signs it into being legal, specially when there is zero evidence to suggest that a single person might know something and then tortureing them into submission, even to force them to lie just so it'll stop.

Frankly breaking any of the above in any form at all, means that the person that either promotes it.... supports it, stands by it as necessary.... is no better then hitler himself or the countless other dictator, travisties that have walked the earth.

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