Innocent women Brutally body slammed by police officer

Judas · Jun 2, 2009, 06:20 PM

Quick lay of what is happening..

theres been a brawl at a resturant... The women's neice laying on the floor has been injured and wishes to be by her side, however the perimedics push her away into the group of cops and wishes to be by her neices side, but the cops basically say no, from there she gets a little bit upset over this (who wouldn't?)... at the very least being able to see your neice after an accident even if it's from a safe and unhindering distance... but they don't let her.

From there you witness the following bullshit occur.

she ends up in the health center with the following appearance the next day

the police officer responcible is not charged, he was taken to court, the jury considered his actions necessary

OldBuzzard · Jun 2, 2009, 08:18 PM

Uh....maybe next time she won't assault a police officer.

And now....the REST of the story:

This happened in March, 2007, and the officer was found NOT GUILTY in Federal Court on May 27(?), 2009.

Story here: http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=10432552

The whole story in a nutshell:

Quote:

Simoes was acquitted of violating Marquez's constitutional protection from excessive police force.

Judas · Jun 2, 2009, 09:16 PM

assault a police officer... at what point does she ever even come close to assualting a police officer....

Neshi · Jun 2, 2009, 11:21 PM

Indeed, I haven't seen any assaulting happening in the video. Just an upset lady that suddenly gets grabbed by the wrists by the officer, and she gets even more upset about that. She tries to get loose, after which point the officer grabs her by the waist and slams her to the ground..
He should at least apologize

Judas · Jun 3, 2009, 01:41 AM

in court the defendants claimed that the cop was or had slipped/lost his footing... but obviously in the video, you can clearly see the bastard lift the women up a good foot or better before completely the manuever smashing someone into the ground...

read the whole thing.... the cop should be criminally charged with assault not to mention other things... i think if a cop had done that to me, if i wasn't knocked out like she was, i'd likely have attempted to kill the sob.

OldBuzzard · Jun 3, 2009, 04:01 AM

She hit's him the first time at 00:09 in the video, then at 00:12 twice, and would have most likely kept hitting him if he wouldn't have grabbed her.

It's there if you LOOK, for it, but if you don't WANT to see it you won't.

Bottom line, it DID go to court, and the Officer was found NOT GUILTY.

Judas · Jun 3, 2009, 04:54 AM

lol what are you seeing?

the exact times your mentioning she isn't hitting, she's pushing off IF anything.... WHAT gives the cop any reason to approach her like that, what was he doing, looked like he was trying to grab her... so obviously any defencive action is required.

and the 2nd time mentioned, she isn't hitting him, she's trying to get her arm back in front while the cop is trying to cuff her.

This is all very well discribed in the transcripts and in the court.. there was no mention of the women HITTING the officer...

so again, where are you getting your information?

Cow_160483 · Jun 3, 2009, 09:53 AM

That is really sad

i agree with judas on this one i dont see her hitting the cop or significantly enough to warrant that type of reaction from him. I think he abused his authority but that's just my opinion.

comp_ali · Jun 3, 2009, 01:07 PM

Most police officers abuse their authorized use of force , Even if she was hitting him why slam her like that instead of politely asking her to move away. I am pretty sure the non-filmed accidents from this kind is hundred times the captured ones.

Judas · Jun 3, 2009, 04:43 PM

i've personally seen "authority" like this taken to far..

i've seen them take the powertrip and let it all go to their head figureing they can demand, and do anything they wish without any concern, because they've been designated as an authority. I've seen people threatened by police, shit i've been theatened by police just for asking questions and trying to talk to them.

It's not at all uncommon or hard to beleive, there are some royal pricks out there running around with a badge on and making the few good ones look bad or untrustworthy.

It's sad, but unfortunately it's gotten to the point that the very officers you have to rely on aren't reliable. It's also unfortunate that nowadays, people are actually fearful of police.

It wasn't all that long ago when a REAL officer of the law was better able to make logical judgements in action, able to dance and drink with the community, put on their uniform and change their entire stance.

Shit it's sad that any public servants caught or admitting to having fun with the community is being hung up by their balls now.... it's all bs and hipocrital.

OmegaRED · Jun 4, 2009, 02:36 PM

He took it too far too quickly and should have been held responsible.

Yes she was upset and did act hostile towards the officer but she was not an immediate threat and did not escalate her actions which makes the officers decision to slam her to the ground completely unwarranted. It wasn't like she was going to attack her niece who was receiving medical attention so the only person at risk was the officer himself and he didn't appear to be in danger at any time. There's no sound but I'm guessing it was what she said that got the officer upset enough to use such force.

Judas · Jun 4, 2009, 04:27 PM

precisely, it doesn't matter what you say to an officer... they are to tolerate it... if they can't... they shouldn't be on the job...

OmegaRED · Jun 4, 2009, 05:05 PM

Damn man, I should be on a freakin' jury...no idea how they'd let this guy off. Even if he was not given anything but a suspension (hey, we need more cops like it or not) he was guilty.

vicsrealms · Jun 4, 2009, 07:58 PM

Woot! Put that civy in her place. Nice job officer. She pushed that officers hand a way and refused to cooperate when an officer told her to leave the scene. As far as I'm concerned she got what she had coming, and she be charged with assaulting a police officer. j/k

He did take it a little far, but for crying out loud. When an officer tells you to do something, cooperate. Yes, the force was excessive. Still, she was interferring with the officers duty to secure the scene. I have no sympathy for her.

Judas · Jun 4, 2009, 08:14 PM

She had every right to remain there with her neice.... there was no reason for her to be confronted and pulled out...

authorities do not know what they should do anymore.... Cooperate and asking someone to do something they don't need to do and then have them refuse is completely different. The police in fact weren't cooperating.... and they have a habit of doing that.

vicsrealms · Jun 5, 2009, 05:22 AM

She had no right to be there. The paramedics asked her to leave so they could do their job. Once the paramedics asked her to leave the area the cops had every right to step in and remove her. I don't agree with the way the cop went about it (this isn't the WWE), but once she was told to leave she should have left. She was a distraction the paramedics did not need at that moment. I understand her concern, but if she was really concerned she would have let the police and the paramedics do their job without her sticking her nose into the situation. Especially since the bar fight ended in an injured party which turned this situation into a crime scene. The only one who truly wasn't cooperating was the civy when she was told to leave the area so the paramedics and the cops could do their jobs.

**kris23** · Jun 5, 2009, 05:42 AM

i gotta admit, while what she was doing was stupid.... the officer couldve easily just pushed her on the floor and held her down to keep her from going there.....

not pretty much picking her up and slamming her on the ground like a ragdoll.... ladys freaking hospitalized.... if that isnt a sign of excessive force.... dunno what is

Tril · Jun 5, 2009, 06:30 AM

It's a natural reflex to put your hands up when you fall to keep your head from hitting the floor. You learn that as a baby after falling head first a few times. He grabbed her under the arms so her arms were free to protect herself from the fall. Was she under the influence of alcohol at the time? Too much alcohol can do that. It slows down your reflexes so much that you don't even protect yourself when you fall by yourself. In that intoxicated state, if someone slammed you to the floor as fast as that cop, you would obviously not react at all.

I'm more troubled by this story about a guy slammed into a wall by a cop. At the very least, you should not move the body after he hit the wall. You leave that to the paramedics. Sorry for hijacking your thread Judas.

Judas · Jun 5, 2009, 07:38 AM

i don't know if most people would be able to tell what was going on quick enough to realize that they'd have to stick their arms out, she was twisted and thrown sideways onto the floor so it would have been extremely difficult to brace for that kind of impact...

there are thousands of videos of police brutality increasing 10 fold monthly almost...

theres a video where a random man came out of a 7/11 and 2 police officers just grabbed the guy and threw him to the ground, the wanted to know what he was being charged with, why he was being held there and arrested... they even tased the guy, but the lucky SOB was able to get away...

There is many where people have had their cameras and whatnot smashed in a public area for no apparent reason other then they had started recording police lipping off some poor kid that had apparently slipped and fell near the police car.

another where a whole shitload of cops started giving tickets to random people for attrosious things..

knocking bikers off bikes and then giving them a ticket for attacking the police.. (wtf)

OmegaRED · Jun 5, 2009, 08:02 AM

I actually agree that police violence is on the rise (rather than just more videos capturing what was already happening) and I think it's because officers are not willing to put themselves at risk like they used to and they take far less chances dealing with perceived threats. It does bother me that they get away with it far too often. I understand cops have to do with a ridiculous amount of stress and the courts seem to take this into account but even a guilty verdict without a harsh punishment would send the message to cops that it is unacceptable to act that way and I doubt any officer would want a record spotted with abuse convictions.

Neshi · Jun 5, 2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by vicsrealms

She had no right to be there. The paramedics asked her to leave so they could do their job. Once the paramedics asked her to leave the area the cops had every right to step in and remove her. I don't agree with the way the cop went about it (this isn't the WWE), but once she was told to leave she should have left. She was a distraction the paramedics did not need at that moment. I understand her concern, but if she was really concerned she would have let the police and the paramedics do their job without her sticking her nose into the situation. Especially since the bar fight ended in an injured party which turned this situation into a crime scene. The only one who truly wasn't cooperating was the civy when she was told to leave the area so the paramedics and the cops could do their jobs.

I can hardly imagine that you wouldn't want to stick with your familymember after she was injured. I can totally understand that women.
There was a fight, your niece is injured. Probably still confused about the fight and the injured niece you want to stay there with here. Not totally hearing the cops you suddenly get grabbed, of course you try to get loose.

Here in Holland it's teh other way around. Even worse. Police isn't allowed to do anything. Unholstering the gun is a reason for investigation, and the chances are you will get reprimanded just for that. Firing the gun is evil.. suspension and worse can be the case. Any force of the police will end up under investigation + punishment.
It's even so that when a burglar comes into your house and you hit him, he can sue you for assault. You will be held responsible and he will get away without any repercussions.
Murder get's you 10 years, maybe less, maybe a little more. Multiple murders doesn't multiply the punishment. Most of the time telling the judge you had too small shoes when you were a kid and that made you mentally unstable they will acknowledge that.
Making multiple felonies results in only 1 being charged..
Jail is a hotel. You get a room for yourself, you get tv, radio, gaming console, newspaper and everything. You can study in jail (it gets paid for you).. it's ridiculous.

Not even talking about the ridiculous rules here. Weed is legal, it can be sold. But it's illegal to grow it. Illegal to carry it. legal to smoke it.

Cow_160483 · Jun 5, 2009, 02:43 PM

haha no wonder the system is so messed up the judges are on weed

But on a serious note that cop should have been charged coz his action was totally wrong, if a family member got hurt and you where there you would want to be close by just encase they need you its human nature. That cop should have been slammed for his actions (no pun intended) he was wrong and got away with it that is the tragedy here

Judas · Jun 5, 2009, 04:32 PM

i'd take a weed smoken judge or combatant criminal over a drunk one any day

mos2k · Jun 5, 2009, 06:32 PM

Woah... i really dont think such force was needed AT ALL...!!!

OmegaRED · Jun 5, 2009, 07:22 PM

I wonder if the woman slammed to the floor was injured more severely than the one being treated by paramedics...would that change people's minds that this was over the line?

Judas · Jun 5, 2009, 09:34 PM

Broken jaw.... bloodied face..... actually yeah now that you mention it.. i wonder what the neice was being treated for?

Dude111 · Jun 6, 2009, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

assault a police officer... at what point does she ever even come close to assualting a police officer....

She should sue them for every dime!!!

Cops think they can do whatever they want and its sad......

dawgXdenta · Jun 7, 2009, 06:03 PM

i'd rather kick a cops ass than get man handled like that, thats plain BS Judas

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · Jul 3, 2009, 02:30 PM

It seems to me she was losing it in front of the officer. From there there are a number of possible occurances one including going for the officers gun or attacking him and putting herself and everyone in serious danger.

Judas · Jul 3, 2009, 04:15 PM

And a comet could have come down and hit them, or a car could have flown in from outside, or some sniper could have picked them all off..

the number of IFs are infinite... that doesn't give someone the right to do it.....

Jun 2, 2009, 11:21 PM	#4
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	Re: Innocent women Brutally body slammed by police officer Indeed, I haven't seen any assaulting happening in the video. Just an upset lady that suddenly gets grabbed by the wrists by the officer, and she gets even more upset about that. She tries to get loose, after which point the officer grabs her by the waist and slams her to the ground.. He should at least apologize __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's

Jun 3, 2009, 04:01 AM	#6
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oberlin, OH Posts: 2,783 Rep Power: 145 System Specs	Re: Innocent women Brutally body slammed by police officer She hit's him the first time at 00:09 in the video, then at 00:12 twice, and would have most likely kept hitting him if he wouldn't have grabbed her. It's there if you LOOK, for it, but if you don't WANT to see it you won't. Bottom line, it DID go to court, and the Officer was found NOT GUILTY. __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY

Jun 3, 2009, 09:53 AM	#8
Cow_160483 HH's only cow moooooo... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: BOTSWANA Posts: 6,820 Rep Power: 300 System Specs	Re: Innocent women Brutally body slammed by police officer That is really sad i agree with judas on this one i dont see her hitting the cop or significantly enough to warrant that type of reaction from him. I think he abused his authority but that's just my opinion. __________________ Decode! Muhahahahah!

Jun 3, 2009, 01:07 PM	#9
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Re: Innocent women Brutally body slammed by police officer Most police officers abuse their authorized use of force , Even if she was hitting him why slam her like that instead of politely asking her to move away. I am pretty sure the non-filmed accidents from this kind is hundred times the captured ones. __________________

Jun 4, 2009, 02:36 PM	#11
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,688 Rep Power: 173 System Specs	Re: Innocent women Brutally body slammed by police officer He took it too far too quickly and should have been held responsible. Yes she was upset and did act hostile towards the officer but she was not an immediate threat and did not escalate her actions which makes the officers decision to slam her to the ground completely unwarranted. It wasn't like she was going to attack her niece who was receiving medical attention so the only person at risk was the officer himself and he didn't appear to be in danger at any time. There's no sound but I'm guessing it was what she said that got the officer upset enough to use such force. __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Jun 4, 2009, 05:05 PM	#13
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,688 Rep Power: 173 System Specs	Re: Innocent women Brutally body slammed by police officer Damn man, I should be on a freakin' jury...no idea how they'd let this guy off. Even if he was not given anything but a suspension (hey, we need more cops like it or not) he was guilty. __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Jun 4, 2009, 07:58 PM	#14
vicsrealms DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas, US Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Innocent women Brutally body slammed by police officer Woot! Put that civy in her place. Nice job officer. She pushed that officers hand a way and refused to cooperate when an officer told her to leave the scene. As far as I'm concerned she got what she had coming, and she be charged with assaulting a police officer. j/k He did take it a little far, but for crying out loud. When an officer tells you to do something, cooperate. Yes, the force was excessive. Still, she was interferring with the officers duty to secure the scene. I have no sympathy for her.

Jun 5, 2009, 05:22 AM	#16
vicsrealms DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas, US Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Innocent women Brutally body slammed by police officer She had no right to be there. The paramedics asked her to leave so they could do their job. Once the paramedics asked her to leave the area the cops had every right to step in and remove her. I don't agree with the way the cop went about it (this isn't the WWE), but once she was told to leave she should have left. She was a distraction the paramedics did not need at that moment. I understand her concern, but if she was really concerned she would have let the police and the paramedics do their job without her sticking her nose into the situation. Especially since the bar fight ended in an injured party which turned this situation into a crime scene. The only one who truly wasn't cooperating was the civy when she was told to leave the area so the paramedics and the cops could do their jobs.

Jun 5, 2009, 05:42 AM	#17
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,019 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Innocent women Brutally body slammed by police officer i gotta admit, while what she was doing was stupid.... the officer couldve easily just pushed her on the floor and held her down to keep her from going there..... not pretty much picking her up and slamming her on the ground like a ragdoll.... ladys freaking hospitalized.... if that isnt a sign of excessive force.... dunno what is __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jun 5, 2009, 06:30 AM	#18
Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,676 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	Re: Innocent women Brutally body slammed by police officer It's a natural reflex to put your hands up when you fall to keep your head from hitting the floor. You learn that as a baby after falling head first a few times. He grabbed her under the arms so her arms were free to protect herself from the fall. Was she under the influence of alcohol at the time? Too much alcohol can do that. It slows down your reflexes so much that you don't even protect yourself when you fall by yourself. In that intoxicated state, if someone slammed you to the floor as fast as that cop, you would obviously not react at all. I'm more troubled by this story about a guy slammed into a wall by a cop. At the very least, you should not move the body after he hit the wall. You leave that to the paramedics. Sorry for hijacking your thread Judas.

Jun 5, 2009, 08:02 AM	#20
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,688 Rep Power: 173 System Specs	Re: Innocent women Brutally body slammed by police officer I actually agree that police violence is on the rise (rather than just more videos capturing what was already happening) and I think it's because officers are not willing to put themselves at risk like they used to and they take far less chances dealing with perceived threats. It does bother me that they get away with it far too often. I understand cops have to do with a ridiculous amount of stress and the courts seem to take this into account but even a guilty verdict without a harsh punishment would send the message to cops that it is unacceptable to act that way and I doubt any officer would want a record spotted with abuse convictions. __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Jun 5, 2009, 02:43 PM	#22
Cow_160483 HH's only cow moooooo... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: BOTSWANA Posts: 6,820 Rep Power: 300 System Specs	Re: Innocent women Brutally body slammed by police officer haha no wonder the system is so messed up the judges are on weed But on a serious note that cop should have been charged coz his action was totally wrong, if a family member got hurt and you where there you would want to be close by just encase they need you its human nature. That cop should have been slammed for his actions (no pun intended) he was wrong and got away with it that is the tragedy here __________________ Decode! Muhahahahah!

Jun 5, 2009, 06:32 PM	#24
mos2k HH's Hermit Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lahore Posts: 865 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	Re: Innocent women Brutally body slammed by police officer Woah... i really dont think such force was needed AT ALL...!!! __________________

Jun 5, 2009, 07:22 PM	#25
OmegaRED Relapsed Gamer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa , Canada Posts: 5,688 Rep Power: 173 System Specs	Re: Innocent women Brutally body slammed by police officer I wonder if the woman slammed to the floor was injured more severely than the one being treated by paramedics...would that change people's minds that this was over the line? __________________ E Penis Specs: <------------- See System Specs

Jun 7, 2009, 06:03 PM	#28
dawgXdenta HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gabz Posts: 1,995 Rep Power: 135 System Specs	Re: Innocent women Brutally body slammed by police officer i'd rather kick a cops ass than get man handled like that, thats plain BS Judas __________________ Today's world is of public opinion and the fates of nations are determined through its pressure. Once the tools for building public opinion are obtained, everything that you asked for can be done. --- Osama bin Laden when relating how global media has the minds of the masses. ______________________________________ http://dawgxdenta.deviantart.com/gallery/

Jul 3, 2009, 02:30 PM	#29
~~RE III - Frankie~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,754 Rep Power: 0	Re: Innocent women Brutally body slammed by police officer It seems to me she was losing it in front of the officer. From there there are a number of possible occurances one including going for the officers gun or attacking him and putting herself and everyone in serious danger.