Barrack Obama Faces the Recession Head-On

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · Jul 23, 2009, 08:11 AM

Obama address recession issues and the American health system.
Obama: Health care bill key to economy - White House- msnbc.com

Judas · Jul 23, 2009, 05:17 PM

whoever wrote that article should maybe go read the entire bill before making up such bullshit

OldBuzzard · Jul 23, 2009, 09:11 PM

The writer, how about OBAMA or Gods sake. That SOB evidently hasn't read it either:
RealClearPolitics - Video - Obama "Not Familiar" With Key Provision In Health Care Bill

These rat bastards did that with the National Energy Tax bill:
YouTube - Boehner: America Has the Right to Know the Consequences of Speaker Pelosi's Nat'l Energy Tax

And, the PORKULOUS Bill:
YouTube - GOP Leader Boehner Floor Speech Opposing Democrats' Trillion-Dollar Spending Bill

I never EVER, thought I'd see the day when I'd rather have <shudder> Jimmy Carter back in office, but it's happened.

**kris23** · Jul 23, 2009, 10:12 PM

i really hope obama is going to do something useful with his tome in office because people are losing their homes....

Judas · Jul 23, 2009, 10:13 PM

it is nothing but a scary bloody big

ing joke

Judas · Jul 23, 2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kris23

i really hope obama is going to do something useful with his tome in office because people are losing their homes....

More government involvement isn't a solution, it only can make it worse..

people are going to lose more then just their homes already....

**kris23** · Jul 23, 2009, 10:15 PM

yea i suppose.... the country itself is in debt and just my family owes quite a bit to the IRS

[hobo]eclipse · Jul 23, 2009, 11:32 PM

hey dont worry, the swine flu vaccine was purchased!

Falstaff · Jul 23, 2009, 11:54 PM

absolute crap....
but then..
this is what got him elected isnt it.
wake up America
its about cost shifting, not cost reduction
its about market reform , not spending upfront
everything Obama proposes costs the government plenty
and that costs the middle class hard working folks plenty
and in the end, its all bullshit.
posting this article, among all the bullshit articles already published
about OBAMA bullshit just forces more salt into the gaping wound of
government mismanagement and ineffective reforms from the Republicans
and the Democrats.
Wake up AMERICA....
there is no FREE LUNCH....
Unless there is a real argument or issue to discuss, news like this is utter rubbish.

SeraphicSorcerer · Jul 24, 2009, 12:51 AM

Don't even try and pin this on democrats Falstaff, there are plenty of frakking republicans that blow the big one too. COUGH TED STEVENS COUGH.

Obama is trying to reform, However, as he is the EXECUTIVE branch, He needs the LEGISLATIVE branch to get their heads out of their collective ass, I strongly support Nancy being voted out of office by a republican, independant or democrat as long as they look at the issues, and not their own agenda.

OldBuzzard · Jul 24, 2009, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SeraphicSorcerer

Don't even try and pin this on democrats ...

Are you kidding me? The democrats OWN this problem. It started back with that dumb ass Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) which Jimmy Carter signed into Law. Later, DEMOCRATS like BARNY FRANK, and others, strong armed lenders and forced them to make loans to people that they KNEW were enable to re-pay them. They went so far as to make the lenders consider WELFARE, and UNEMPLOYMENT checks as income.

The Republicans tried on numerous occasions to reform what was happening, and were stopped by the DEMOCRATS every time.

So, what ever you might 'think", or wish...the FACT is that the rat bastard democrats ARE to blame, and anyone that does 5 minutes of googling can see it for themselves.

Judas · Jul 24, 2009, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [hobo]eclipse

hey dont worry, the swine flu vaccine was purchased!

so was the swine flu itself....

Judas · Jul 24, 2009, 06:11 PM

both sides are completely

ed in the heads.... theres only maybe 2-4 people that aren't bought and paid for.... that aren't members of various organizations that have corporate interests.

One of which is ron paul that is doing his best with what he's got and has a growing interest.

So enough bullshit bickering about which side is responcible... both sides are.... they are complete jackasses, the entire system is a royal joke at this point. Just alot of smiles and nods mostly. Big

ing farce. So much laughs and stupidity to hand out that the comedy network is overwhelmed by it.

procupine14 · Jul 24, 2009, 07:02 PM

My suggestion? vote independent

. I hate both parties equally and without recourse. Because here's the deal, not only did the democrats royally shaft the economy with all those reforms for people that in the long run should have really just spent their money more wisley but the republicans seem to have a way of burning through stacks and stacks of federal funds and spin their wheels. So from my point of view one party perpetuates the others screw up back and forth. its a huge snow ball and they all need to wake up.

Judas · Jul 24, 2009, 07:26 PM

nothings worse them republicans and democrats working together

OldBuzzard · Jul 24, 2009, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

nothings worse them republicans and democrats working together

Especially when the Democrats idea of "working together" means "Shut up and do it the way we tell you to".

Senor_Mota · Jul 24, 2009, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldBuzzard

Are you kidding me? The democrats OWN this problem. It started back with that dumb ass Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) which Jimmy Carter signed into Law. Later, DEMOCRATS like BARNY FRANK, and others, strong armed lenders and forced them to make loans to people that they KNEW were enable to re-pay them. They went so far as to make the lenders consider WELFARE, and UNEMPLOYMENT checks as income.

The Republicans tried on numerous occasions to reform what was happening, and were stopped by the DEMOCRATS every time.

So, what ever you might 'think", or wish...the FACT is that the rat bastard democrats ARE to blame, and anyone that does 5 minutes of googling can see it for themselves.

Well said. If ANYONE thinks that this started recently, or that the Democratic party has nothing to do with the current recession (look into both Presidents Carter and Clinton's tenures in office), they're lying to themselves. We've never truly recovered from the economic downturn in the seventies and I don't think a smiley glad-hand who happens to be the first Afro-American President will be bailing us out; he would have to have started the reform almost thirty years ago. The recession is retroactive, remember? These are old debts and financial decisions from forty fucking years ago just starting to catch up with us.

Just think what this country will be like for my daughter...

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

Judas · Jul 24, 2009, 07:49 PM

i would have to say the major problem started nearly over 100 years ago.

when the federal reserve was inacted (a Privately owned bank that is called a federal reserve but has NOTHING AT ALL to do with the country it's in, has no government ties, no rules, no laws to abide by... nothing)

Senor_Mota · Jul 24, 2009, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

i would have to say the major problem started nearly over 100 years ago.

when the federal reserve was inacted (a Privately owned bank that is called a federal reserve but has NOTHING AT ALL to do with the country it's in, has no government ties, no rules, no laws to abide by... nothing)

Sure. The Federal Reserve is precursory to ALL of the current events that are happening. With that being said, you could also say that the formation of our country upon the financial back of the French and the English was the real problem.

Judas · Jul 25, 2009, 01:02 AM

actually it was a real problem....

one of the reason that some of the battles and wars were faught over such issues.

doesn't matter where you go, money will always wiggle itself in..... even if a majority of people avoid it all, someone is going to get greedy stupid.

CDsDontBurn · Jul 25, 2009, 03:06 AM

Quote:

He said Medicare and Medicaid, government health care programs for the elderly and the poor, are the "biggest driving force behind our federal deficit."

this particular line really struck me. government health programs are a good thing for those who do not have any health insurance, like myself, that they can afford.

the elderly having government based health insurance is alright, it's nothing i can say that they shouldn't have. but i'm sure that as the baby boomer population ages, some of which is already in, the number of the elderly depending on government health programs will continue to grow.

the poor having goverment health insurance should only have government based insurance if they can meet all requirements for such aid. if you're poor, but have a job that gives you an option for health insurance, then there is no need for such person to apply for government health insurance. but people still do.

once this recession is over, whenever it'll be over, the amount of "poor" people on government health insurance should decrease significantly.

even though i do not have any health insurance, i will not apply to any kind of government funded health insurance unless i truly needed it. i know that once i am in a position to get health insurance through my place of work with my current or future employer, i will then have health insurance. but for now, i won't.

Falstaff · Jul 25, 2009, 01:11 PM

regardless of who gets elected.
what are you willing to pay to ensure your children have a chance to improve the quality of their lives.
what are you willing to do, in spite of all the well intentioned rhetoric and political rubbish for the sake of your children.
what can you do to protect the quaity of your own life, the lives of your children and loved ones you cherish now and for the future.
Who can you trust to act on your behalf and on behalf of your children.

Politics, Taxes, Death are inevitable and we are faced with many challenges, lets hope we meet them with the future of children in mind .

Judas · Jul 25, 2009, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falstaff

Politics, Taxes, Death are inevitable and we are faced with many challenges, lets hope we meet them with the future of children in mind .

they aren't inevitable..... they only are if you truly beleive there is absalutely no other solution available.

this same mistake is being repeated over and over and over again.. and everytime someone makes a break for it and actually get somewhere.. a few decades later IF THAT it's all reversed and we end up losing ground to counter this.

Falstaff · Jul 29, 2009, 01:24 AM

are so.....

SaberZ · Jul 29, 2009, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by procupine14

My suggestion? vote independent

. I hate both parties equally and without recourse. Because here's the deal, not only did the democrats royally shaft the economy with all those reforms for people that in the long run should have really just spent their money more wisley but the republicans seem to have a way of burning through stacks and stacks of federal funds and spin their wheels. So from my point of view one party perpetuates the others screw up back and forth. its a huge snow ball and they all need to wake up.

I always wanted a guy that came from the middle class, the group of people most affected by the changes made due to politics. But I know he would be shot dead/wouldn't win because the upper class politicians have the money and the connections to win.

I haven't bothered to vote in a while due to all the BS that occurs with the final tallying of votes. The funny thing is, the more I read about certain events, and read about those far fetched theories on where we are going the more I'm starting to believe them because they had the foresight to see it happening before it did.

I hate feeling like a lamb :|

~~FFVII - Cloud~~ · Aug 23, 2009, 06:26 PM

What's so important about politics anyway. If I'm driving to get a movie and some asshole pulls up along side me to drag, I'm like yeah right dude. I can judge when there's no traffic so although your car is faster than mine I can pull off sooner than you cause I'm smarter in the face and teeth. I smile and drive off slowly. And as I watch ahead he's doing about 90 at the next lights and goes through a traffic light camera. Ooooh Yeah.

Jul 23, 2009, 08:11 AM	#1
~~RE III - Frankie~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,754 Rep Power: 0	Barrack Obama Faces the Recession Head-On Obama address recession issues and the American health system. Obama: Health care bill key to economy - White House- msnbc.com

Jul 23, 2009, 09:11 PM	#3
OldBuzzard DH's oldest Geek Join Date: May 2003 Location: Oberlin, OH Posts: 2,781 Rep Power: 141 System Specs	Re: Barrack Obama Faces the Recession Head-On The writer, how about OBAMA or Gods sake. That SOB evidently hasn't read it either: RealClearPolitics - Video - Obama "Not Familiar" With Key Provision In Health Care Bill These rat bastards did that with the National Energy Tax bill: YouTube - Boehner: America Has the Right to Know the Consequences of Speaker Pelosi's Nat'l Energy Tax And, the PORKULOUS Bill: YouTube - GOP Leader Boehner Floor Speech Opposing Democrats' Trillion-Dollar Spending Bill I never EVER, thought I'd see the day when I'd rather have <shudder> Jimmy Carter back in office, but it's happened. __________________ When looking for a reason as to why things go wrong, never rule out sheer STUPIDITY Last edited by OldBuzzard; Jul 23, 2009 at 09:36 PM.

Jul 23, 2009, 10:12 PM	#4
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	Re: Barrack Obama Faces the Recession Head-On i really hope obama is going to do something useful with his tome in office because people are losing their homes.... __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jul 23, 2009, 10:15 PM	#7
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	Re: Barrack Obama Faces the Recession Head-On yea i suppose.... the country itself is in debt and just my family owes quite a bit to the IRS __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jul 23, 2009, 11:32 PM	#8
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,897 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	Re: Barrack Obama Faces the Recession Head-On hey dont worry, the swine flu vaccine was purchased!

Jul 23, 2009, 11:54 PM	#9
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,047 Rep Power: 206	Re: Barrack Obama Faces the Recession Head-On absolute crap.... but then.. this is what got him elected isnt it. wake up America its about cost shifting, not cost reduction its about market reform , not spending upfront everything Obama proposes costs the government plenty and that costs the middle class hard working folks plenty and in the end, its all bullshit. posting this article, among all the bullshit articles already published about OBAMA bullshit just forces more salt into the gaping wound of government mismanagement and ineffective reforms from the Republicans and the Democrats. Wake up AMERICA.... there is no FREE LUNCH.... Unless there is a real argument or issue to discuss, news like this is utter rubbish. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jul 24, 2009, 12:51 AM	#10
SeraphicSorcerer HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 2,295 Rep Power: 154 System Specs	Re: Barrack Obama Faces the Recession Head-On Don't even try and pin this on democrats Falstaff, there are plenty of frakking republicans that blow the big one too. COUGH TED STEVENS COUGH. Obama is trying to reform, However, as he is the EXECUTIVE branch, He needs the LEGISLATIVE branch to get their heads out of their collective ass, I strongly support Nancy being voted out of office by a republican, independant or democrat as long as they look at the issues, and not their own agenda. __________________

Jul 24, 2009, 07:02 PM	#14
procupine14 Why is it Beeping!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA, Missouri Posts: 1,400 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	Re: Barrack Obama Faces the Recession Head-On My suggestion? vote independent . I hate both parties equally and without recourse. Because here's the deal, not only did the democrats royally shaft the economy with all those reforms for people that in the long run should have really just spent their money more wisley but the republicans seem to have a way of burning through stacks and stacks of federal funds and spin their wheels. So from my point of view one party perpetuates the others screw up back and forth. its a huge snow ball and they all need to wake up. __________________ HTPC/file server: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom x4 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 800 (2x2GB) - 1TB WD Black - 4 x 1TB Hitachi DeskStar in RAID 5 - ATi TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner - HIS Raedon 4850 512MB - ASRock N68C-S UCC mobo - OCZ ModExtreme Pro 500W PSU GF's Gaming PC: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit - AMD Phenom 9850 - 4GB OCZ DDR2 1066 - 500GB Western Digital GP - HIS Raedon 5770 1GB - ASUS M3A78-EM - Zalman 650W PSU Media Streamer: Win 7 Pro 64-bit - AMD Athlon x2 3200+ - 4GB SuperTalent DDR2 800 - 250GB SeaGate Barracuda - MSI K9N6PGM2-V2 - ASUS Raedon 5450 SILENT - FSP group 250W PSU

Jul 25, 2009, 01:11 PM	#22
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,047 Rep Power: 206	Re: Barrack Obama Faces the Recession Head-On regardless of who gets elected. what are you willing to pay to ensure your children have a chance to improve the quality of their lives. what are you willing to do, in spite of all the well intentioned rhetoric and political rubbish for the sake of your children. what can you do to protect the quaity of your own life, the lives of your children and loved ones you cherish now and for the future. Who can you trust to act on your behalf and on behalf of your children. Politics, Taxes, Death are inevitable and we are faced with many challenges, lets hope we meet them with the future of children in mind . __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jul 29, 2009, 01:24 AM	#24
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,047 Rep Power: 206	Re: Barrack Obama Faces the Recession Head-On are so..... __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Aug 23, 2009, 06:26 PM	#26
~~FFVII - Cloud~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Somewhere Deserted Posts: 177 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Barrack Obama Faces the Recession Head-On What's so important about politics anyway. If I'm driving to get a movie and some asshole pulls up along side me to drag, I'm like yeah right dude. I can judge when there's no traffic so although your car is faster than mine I can pull off sooner than you cause I'm smarter in the face and teeth. I smile and drive off slowly. And as I watch ahead he's doing about 90 at the next lights and goes through a traffic light camera. Ooooh Yeah.