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Re: Obama wins 2009 Nobel Peace Prize
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Which is? I find it humerous that poeple believe absolute bullshit about former Pres. Bush and even more bullshit about Obama. People open your eyes. Politicians are about politics. You want to see a trail of absolute rubbish, do your research on OBAMA for a change, what you find might surprise you. There will always be someone in office that will be popular or unpopular depending on how much you rely on popular media to tell you. The fact is that Obama has acccomplished little except raise a few eyebrows within his own administration among those that did and those that didnt vote for him. DONT BELIEVE THE F**KING HYPE! This isnt a movie about how run a country and Obama isnt an actor, but you would think he had a lead role in a made for TV movie about his own life. I dont trust any of them and I am only convinced any president made a difference after they have left office, not while they are in office. Just look at his selections for his CZAR's. America is going to hell in a hand basket and me, a working taxpayer is watchng the future of my grandchildren being pissed away on so called reforms and inititiatives and pork belly crap that the Democrats were accusing the Republicans of doing. Its dollars and cents. Obama will inact legislation that will cost every American considerably more than his predecessors ever did. So he recieved a NPP, so what, by a group of socialists so it doesnt surprise me. I cant wait till the French give him some kind of reward.
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HardwareHeaven Senior Member
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@ Falstaff S.A.R.C.A.S.M a word youre all too well familiar with
![]() I dont believe in politics either ,its a great farce, I'm a member of Bahai faith and Zeitgeist movement they both stand for the same values: The worlds future generation and the global society are king of this worlds chess board not self, greed or individual which is what this system teaches us, all of us are goverment, 1 race , 1 society, 1 brotherhood. Politics is an evolutionary phase that will pass like all things which outlive their usefulness.
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Forged on Dragonmount
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Sad thing is dawg, even if it outlives its usefulness, it may be well beyond mine and your time on this earth, I guess for those who have children like Falstaff, all one can do is only hope that their future generation survives this period and that the world truly does unite in the end. Right now though its just as divided as it was 50 years ago if you ask me.
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HardwareHeaven Senior Member
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Obvious Closet Brony Pony
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I always find it halarious when some people defend obama that he hasn't even been in office for a year and has alot of his plate.
yet when i point out the fact that sure that might be true, he's been more then happy to spend more in the first 6 months then Bush did in 8 years..... And where did that money go, nowhere at all very useful for anyone. Actually to top it off, considering that obama is basically surrounded by lobbiest..... it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where some of the money is going. SO, if obama can spend so much of the tax payers credit which is already in the toilet, in such a short period of time, how in the HELL can he not get even the simpliest of other tasks done that was already on his plate. I'm sorry, but any idiot can throw money at a problem and demand a solution, and what happens? Usually things get worse. And what is happen? It's actually not getting any better now is it. Last figure I tracked down was that at the end of September 2009, the US owed GDP officially hit over $100 Trillion in what it owes the rest of the world. Do you know what it was at before Obama took over? Just above the $52 Trillion mark. So much for the "claimed" 700 and 800 billion dollar bailouts that turned into multi trillion dollar bailouts that some of it have been tracked down to offshore banks and companies elsewhere, very very few of it apparently actually went into the US itself. Shit, imagine this fantasy they have most of everyone convinced to have working probabilities. Could you imagine being able to spend yourself out of debt. I mean seriously think of how absurd this is. You owe 1000 bucks, so to pay what you owe, you get a loan of 1000 bucks at massive interest, so you pay your loan and now you still owe 1000 bucks + interest which lets say goes to 1100. So what do you do? You take another loan for 1100 + interest to pay for that loan. You rince and repeat until your banker or loaner decides that your a fucking idiot and kills any chance of you getting another loan. At this point your so royally in deep shit, you could see light if you were thrown at the sun. Ontop of that, we don't bother to mention that the bank decides to call your loans and demands that you pay it. What happens then? They turn around and start raping you for everything you have (land, assets, personal belongings) and if they aren't satisfied with that, they "take" you. So if that doesn't make at all any sense to you to do something like that, WHY IN THE HELL are governments doing this over and over and over again. Why are they allowing a central bank dubbed the Federal Reserve which is neither Federal or a reserve of any kind which is not auditable or able to be prosecuted under any law, to print money at such a rate that devalues it faster then it can print it. ONE REASON, ignorance, arrogants, and just overall stupidity. I think it's halarious that people think "conspiracy" theories/facts/ideas are a big ass joke, that how in the world would people like this get away with it, why wouldn't people be talking about it. And they over and over again ignore any signs of it. Stupidity is one thing we do not lack, and it's utterly stupid to not ever consider that the impossible or unthinkable is indeed possible. If you keep a society entertained with trival matters, and side tracked well enough, you could do anything you want to them and do whatever you want period.
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Forged on Dragonmount
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If only super heroes were real.
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Obvious Closet Brony Pony
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If super heros were real.... there would be a world of chaos as the number of people taken out and stuffed in jails would skyrocket... i wouldn't be at all surprised to see over 90% of the congressmen and women, adminstrations across the board.. and over 90% of the corporations that reside inside and outside the US being pounded to dust.
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Forged on Dragonmount
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No I meant super heroes who saw what was going on and understood what it was about, I've also done my own little bit of investigating, if I had super powers I can assure you I'd use them to the greater good ie to persuade rather than to punish. I personally think that the most ideal model of society that has been brought fourth so far is that of the venus project and yes, I too am a member of the Zeitgeist movement.
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Obvious Closet Brony Pony
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Oh i agree..... but it is one thing to presuade and to resolve issues easily only to have them esculate because of the people that are in office making radicale and selfish dicisions for themselves rather then for the people they were elected by (or put themselves in power through other means)....
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Forged on Dragonmount
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That's totally it, by persuasion I mean there would be no government, I would lead the world to a direction completely based on that of the Venus Project, with an international technical council which people would join by making meaningful contributions that would make the decisions with the help ofcourse of a central computer on which all data would be stored, thus putting power in the hands of people who would actually solve problems as well as society as anyone would be free to contribute and make suggestions to improving the systems at anytime to the international technical council and then joining the council should there contribution be meaningful and important enough to justify it, and as you well know there would be no money as there is no need for it with the mass production capabilities we have today only resources which would be carefully managed and put to use around the world as needed by the interplanetary technological council with the help of earth's massive knowledge base. Products would be made to the highest standards with the best materials, to last, with no redundancy built in to cause them to degrade as there would be no money and no selling, everything would be free and made available to everyone, instead of multiple instances of the same product we would have one product that would be the joint effort of all of our knowledge combined made and built to last a period of 40,50 maybe even 60 years. After taking care of that problem, since there would be no greed or any other abohrent motivation caused by money and the profit system we would then go on to solve other problems and operate at maximum efficiency and technical capacity as a race thus thrusting us into a new era of development and progress unlike anything we have ever known before.
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HardwareHeaven Senior Member
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ON POINT BOYS, I'm happy to see you guys THINKING FOR ONCE
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Obvious Closet Brony Pony
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