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Obama wins 2009 Nobel Peace Prize
US President Barack Obama has been awarded the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize.
The Nobel Committee said he won it for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples". The committee highlighted Mr Obama's efforts to support international bodies and promote nuclear disarmament. Mr Obama's spokesman said the president was "humbled" to have won the prize. He said he woke Mr Obama up when he called with the news early on Friday _________________ source : BBC
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Re: Obama wins 2009 Nobel Peace Prize
Duplicity won , that's shame. After many idiots take Nobel prize , I don't believe in it anymore.
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Why would they award him the NPP? I'm at a complete loss here.
He has done absolutely nothing to warrent this. I mean come ON. He was sworn into office on Jan 20. The deadline for nominations fro the NPP was FEB 1. Now someone PLEASE tell me what he did in those 12 days that was worthy of the NPP.
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What a load of crap...
getting a NPP for what someone says the want to do or promise to do. Anyone that knows the history of the NPP can see that this is clearly politically motivated and absolute rubbish... maybe he is the anti-christ after all. I am disgusted.
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lol.
what'd you expect... the moment Al Gore "won" a nobel prize for his "work" on the sham called global warming and his methods being completely ed up, the commitee had obviously lost their minds
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Re: Obama wins 2009 Nobel Peace Prize
what a jokerface, how pathetic.
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If there was anything that diminished the merit of a NPP it was this.
but what do I care? Politicians come and go. I am sure that there was someone that thought Caligula was misunderstood. That Bill Clinton was telling the truth. That George Bush was a uniter and not a divider.
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Re: Obama wins 2009 Nobel Peace Prize
you have to admit.. if obama is blown up into the messiah that he's been claimed to be any more then he is now..... shit is going to get ugly in a hurry
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you know the damnest thing about this whole thing, you can't blame Obama for winning the prize.. just the committee..
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you can partially... he could of recognized that the decision to give him such an award was misplaced and refused to accept it
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Come on , who would do like that , even Bush ( declared 2 wars) if he was awarded NPP he would accept it.
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guess people aren't that honest anymore...
I think people would be more overly upset if bush won.. and for bush to accept it would be a total load of shit.
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btw... why would anyone accept an award that has utterly nothing to do with them... doesn't even match what they've done or accomplished....
It'd be like me winning the miss universe award without ever showing up and to boot, being male!.... would you still accept it? I bloody well wouldn't.... I think some awards are total crock.
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The previous administration is half the reason, no doubt. But I'm sure Obama had the same first reaction as me; WTF?!
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I like Obama coz i'm black and felt the pain of racism growing up, but he hasnt done anything to deserve it. The cooperate system is trying to "put lipstick on a pig"
.They did a horrible job with Bush and Bush was the epitomy of what they stood and stand for. They are now attempting to show a "prettier face" , if they had continued with Bush or a Bush-like figure a revolt might have ensued so this is their tactic, unfortunately people are buying it. America will one day revolt against their "democracy"(hidden cooporate dictatorship) when this system starts taking far too many liberties with Americans lives, You might say they arent doing that, they are.....Iraq.....Afghanistan What are those wars for global safety or oil? They are already wasting and sacrificing americans and for their profits.
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Obvious Closet Brony Pony
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a frog will die in a slow to boiling pot...
hopefully people get a clue... just because a person puts on a good face, talks very well (even if it's right the hell of a teleprompter and isn't or most of it isn't his own words).. Why are people so affixed to falling for masked goody showers. Obama's adminstration is frankly just as worse as bushes.
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That's the way politicians work all over the world , some nice sentences put together to form speech to fool people.and in the reality they are working on their own agenda without giving a damn to people's advantages.
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Really? Waterboarding approved? Torturing, Lying about starting wars? Oh yea.. Not going as fast as the REPUBLICANS want him to in Afghanistan. He was elected to do a job, a job he is doing quite well considering he's got more on his plate then FDR did in first 2 terms as president. (The 3rd pretty much killed him as it was stressful as hell trying to get us through WW2 I am sure.) It's not Obama's fault we have the biggest 2 idiots leading congress. But I'd much rather have Democrats in office then the arrogance displayed by 90% of the "republican" party which doesn't put forth ideas as much as it puts forth new and improved ways of basically saying "lets kill the president, because hes not republican" I love the democrats in office because they FIGHT WITHIN themselves to get shit done, Republicans are just really good snake oils salesmen, it sounds REALLY good, until you realize they dont do a fuggin thing. |
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But that america resides only in the heart of the poor, and middle class of the U.S The rich of the U.S will look on without any complaints as the children of americas poor are sent to war for their profits. They will say nothing because these wars pay for their bills. Their yatchs castles and mansions They will look on, lord knows they should go to a veriteable hell for what they are doing But they dont care and so it is these same powerful people that Obama must convince to do good, that is if he is honest. But it doesnt matter whether he is honest or not, even if Ghandi or Christ where to lead america, they would fail, because the powers that be love money more than God or man. The normal americans are the only ones who can take the future in their hands and build an america of greater prosperity, a properity that will have no comparison in history. But such an america sleeps content with the "religion" perpetuated by their government and media. Obama even if he were honest is but one man at the bidding of a monster, the normal american citizen has more vitality and love for humanity than 1000 politicians. Americans can if they pleased single handedly turn upside down these systems of suffering poverty and loss in the whole world including their own back yards. America knowledgeable and united. This is Gods gift to you, I wonder whether you do know that the people of the earth are proud that you are leading , that we would prefare america to lead than russia or china. But first the demon controlling you must be vanquished.... we await your awakening.
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+1 for that dawg......
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Yes the american people are a passionate, and crazy bunch, but in mass, they are also a sheer unstoppable force of stupidity. As are most humans, we vote for one issue or simply because a guy is more likeable. We will vote for someone because of a name that reminds us of better times, and we will not accept as a whole that our state's senator sucks the big one, We've become lazy, because we've been pacified by the legal wrangling of corporations, that and the simultaenous advent of technology has kept us blind as we're entertained by newer gadgets. The heart of the matter comes down to the simple issue that this democratic republic no longer is a republic, because in order to be representative of the people, you must REALLY know the people. I personally find some of our senators, the president to be of the people but there are 500 douche bags, scumsuckers, bottom dwelling, money humping assholes that claim to also be for the people. and that my friends is the duality of a free society. That which makes it strong makes it weak, and what makes it weak will inevitably be dramatically changed. No matter how bad things will get it will correct itself, and the farther we plunge the more radical and most likely violent that shift back to balance will be. But if the right wing wants to continue it's Rhetoric of completely made up shit, I for one will continue to call them out on it. Calling democrats out for lying, sure I'll do that to, but Republican lies tend to be like a woman accusing you of fathering a child and expecting you to pay child support, but what she didnt tell you is shes collecting it from 5 different men because she found a loophole to skull-screw you. Democrats may not be all the much better, but all the right people can say is their socialist, they spend to much, well guess what, come up with something better then No child left behind, stop shoveling crap and maybe we can get stuff done. Independents aren't a legit party either, especially with Senator Joe Lieberman and people that flip whenever it's convenient. I also get disgusted with the Obama bashing in this forum. What the fuck has he done to warrant such bullshit angst from this community? For everything you can point out that Obama might have screwed up on I can poinbt out 50 flaws he's fixed from Bush, like oh he bowed to the saudi king, what being respectful even if not fully aware of every custom is somehow weak now? gimme a break. Bush officially screwed thethe republican party from ever being able to talk about the constitution like they love it. The only one I even listen to anymore is Ron Paul, and even he's half out on his rocker. Point out your claims with facts or please stop bashing YOUR president. Or in the case of Non - Americans bashing him, don't believe foxnews, drudge simply because they can twist facts. Anything can be edited, twisted or bashed, no he's not a great speaker without his tele-prompt, but then again I hate talking into an answering machine for the same reason, what exactly are you suppose to say 24/7 when everyone is recording your every moment, people make mistakes, back off the guys nuts. He is 20x the president bush ever was in his A game. and I bet you 100$ if 9/11 did happen again on Obama's watch it wouldn't take him 7 minutes to act like a president. Last edited by SeraphicSorcerer; Oct 15, 2009 at 02:23 PM. |
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He's done better? Has plenty on his plate? Maybe he should perhaps get shit done like you suggest they are doing.... Blanket statements aside, he's a polititian... his position before being a president was highly questionable, his position as president is just as questionable..... He's has approved considerably larger amounts of "stimulus" plans and has continued to appear and talk about things in such a positive light yet without really see any action on it. Repeating the same thing, wording it differently to make it sound different or to seem like progress is being made... It's all bullshit in the end. Every word that comes out of his mouth may as well be something no one can understand.... Words do not do, noticeable action does. What exactly has he upheld since taking office that he has stated he would do before doing so? I betcha the checklist hasn't even been really looked at ....
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@SeraphicSorcerer
I'm not keen on bashing anyone who doesn't deserve it, knowing the chains and restraints Obama has from cooperate America, Time is the best judge of character not media. truth is revealed with time and we shall know who he really was later on when he is gone from public eyes, for now we just wait. I say this because the media acts as s shroud in front of the eyes of humanity hiding the truth, but the truth is like a light once the tight hold of lies ease off with time, it starts to break free and shed its light to All. On another note, woe the evil when Americans wake up from their slumber. They shall depose every dictatorship including their own. This is the greatest fear of the worlds leaders that you and I shall decide whats good for us. America shall form the tip of the spear, but you and others must first be enlightened by the essential truth of the unity of mankind. Watch
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thing is.. the nobel from my understanding was intended to for someone that had ALREADY done something....
last time i checked.. i didn't know anyone could look into someones future and give an award for things that either haven't happened or won't happen.
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If he has THAT much to so, maybe he should spend some time in Washington attending to it, instead of flying all over the country and world making speeches.
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like i said..... he's talked the talk... and continues to do so..
but he has yet to walk the walk
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I think Obama probably should have rejected it but then only one person has ever refused the prize so it's probably bad taste to do so. He had no say in the matter so there's no point getting worked up about it.
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