Minister Christine Daniel Arrested

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · Oct 9, 2009, 02:18 PM

I really can't begin to fathom the relevance of the charges brought against this person. It is obvious to see that even though she is being brought to court for her "actions" that the prosecution doesn't even really know why.

Read The Full Report Here:
Doctor who hailed herbal cancer cure arrested - msnbc.com

IvanV · Oct 9, 2009, 03:27 PM

I don't know about US, but I think that it's illegal to claim that you can cure certain diseases in some countries. Also, if I were a suspicious person, I would have probably found the fact that she got over $1,000,000 from her patients by selling them a herbal concoction saying that it would help with different types of cancer, Alzheimer, hepatitis and god knows what else smelling of fraud. On top of that, she stated to the police that she had never practiced alternative medicine for cancer nor talked about a 60% success rate, which seems like an obvious lie.

I'd look into her patients' survival rate before making a judgement, but she seems like a particularly soulless fraud who should be jailed for a very, very long time.

comp_ali · Oct 9, 2009, 03:29 PM

This witch should be executed , she has deceived many and caused death to 4 people according to the article.

IvanV · Oct 9, 2009, 03:48 PM

Judging by the demographic she targeted, it's likely that those people would have died in the same timespan anyway. At least I like to think that she didn't harm them physically even if she did take their money and didn't help either, it's sad enough that way.

comp_ali · Oct 9, 2009, 04:06 PM

I agree that anyone believed her must have been too silly or that was the last hope for them so they did that. But actually she abused them and it appears that she didn't tell their "preys" about fail rate.

Judas · Oct 9, 2009, 05:17 PM

Sometimes all people need is a Placebo...... she gave them that..

nothing wrong with that either..... because were being fed quite often placebo's from certified doctors and pharmacies.

comp_ali · Oct 9, 2009, 05:26 PM

Normally ,A doctor is supposed to offer real physical medicaments.

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · Oct 9, 2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by IvanV

I don't know about US, but I think that it's illegal to claim that you can cure certain diseases in some countries. Also, if I were a suspicious person, I would have probably found the fact that she got over $1,000,000 from her patients by selling them a herbal concoction saying that it would help with different types of cancer, Alzheimer, hepatitis and god knows what else smelling of fraud. On top of that, she stated to the police that she had never practiced alternative medicine for cancer nor talked about a 60% success rate, which seems like an obvious lie.

I'd look into her patients' survival rate before making a judgement, but she seems like a particularly soulless fraud who should be jailed for a very, very long time.

How can you even think that she "is" physically responsible for her patients deaths? She is "NOT" the cause of the cancer that has obviously subdued these people not her.

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Originally Posted by comp_ali

This witch should be executed , she has deceived many and caused death to 4 people according to the article.

I'm sorry compi, but herbs don't cause death. Don't snear at me?

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Originally Posted by IvanV

Judging by the demographic she targeted, it's likely that those people would have died in the same timespan anyway. At least I like to think that she didn't harm them physically even if she did take their money and didn't help either, it's sad enough that way.

I know for a FACT that alternative medicine does help people who are terminally ill. My grandmother benefits from my personal experience in this field and our relationship has built and taken a far more solid road I know this, I AM sure.

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Originally Posted by comp_ali

I agree that anyone believed her must have been too silly or that was the last hope for them so they did that. But actually she abused them and it appears that she didn't tell their "preys" about fail rate.

80 years for "FREE" money?

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Originally Posted by comp_ali

Normally ,A doctor is supposed to offer real physical medicaments.

Doctor's aren't professionals either, NOT when they don't have a physical antidote.

Judas · Oct 9, 2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by comp_ali

Normally ,A doctor is supposed to offer real physical medicaments.

which is narrow minded and idiotic.

Considering that mentally there is more involved the most people realize that directly affects them physically..

Fixing someone physically isn't gonna solve the problem if mentally they are causing harm to themselves physically without actually apparently physically doing it.

The mind, it is extremely powerful, more then most people will ever understand/know/fathom.

comp_ali · Oct 9, 2009, 07:04 PM

The psychological and physical effects are overlapping . we can't isolate each one from the other.

~~RE III - Frankie~~ · Oct 11, 2009, 05:05 AM

If they put this person i jail (which they already have) for not even having physically harmed these people and accepting (money) that "they" volunteered, then I put this down directly to satanistic devil worshipism.

~~CitySlicker~~ · Oct 11, 2009, 08:07 AM

Welcome to the commerce with health!

doctors are not there to heal you..they want you on pills for the rest of your life..only that generates the desired revenues in the pockets of the governments, pharmaceutical industry and the doctor.

It's globally the same game everywhere - health has become the most mischievous industry on this planet and it is still perfectly legal.

IvanV · Oct 11, 2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RE III - Frankie

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I'm sorry compi, but herbs don't cause death. Don't snear at me?

I know for a FACT that alternative medicine does help people who are terminally ill. My grandmother benefits from my personal experience in this field and our relationship has built and taken a far more solid road I know this, I AM sure.
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Are you saying that, for example, people can't overdose themselves with non-synthetic drugs? There are probably thousands of herbs out there whose extract, applied in the right amount, could take a man out, especially one with seriously damaged health. The fact that some alternative remedies do help doesn't make them all good.

The woman made a fortune on desperate people's misery by selling them a little bit of false hope that some herbs and a miracle will save them. That's basically what pyramidal banks do, take desperate people's last savings offering them false hope that the bank will somehow be able to pay the crazy interests and save them, only in those cases people don't die in the end.

Neshi · Oct 11, 2009, 12:27 PM

what she did was no alternative medicine.. prayers don't cure cancer..

This discussion shouldn't be about the question if alternative medicine works or not, because it does. But what she practiced wasn't alternative medicine.

Oct 9, 2009, 02:18 PM	#1
~~RE III - Frankie~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,754 Rep Power: 0	Minister Christine Daniel Arrested I really can't begin to fathom the relevance of the charges brought against this person. It is obvious to see that even though she is being brought to court for her "actions" that the prosecution doesn't even really know why. Read The Full Report Here: Doctor who hailed herbal cancer cure arrested - msnbc.com

Oct 9, 2009, 03:27 PM	#2
IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,917 Rep Power: 336 System Specs	Re: Minister Christine Daniel Arrested I don't know about US, but I think that it's illegal to claim that you can cure certain diseases in some countries. Also, if I were a suspicious person, I would have probably found the fact that she got over $1,000,000 from her patients by selling them a herbal concoction saying that it would help with different types of cancer, Alzheimer, hepatitis and god knows what else smelling of fraud. On top of that, she stated to the police that she had never practiced alternative medicine for cancer nor talked about a 60% success rate, which seems like an obvious lie. I'd look into her patients' survival rate before making a judgement, but she seems like a particularly soulless fraud who should be jailed for a very, very long time. __________________ If anyone has Portal 2 and hasn't played the co-op and wants to do me a favour, let me know (PM me or whatever). Last edited by IvanV; Oct 9, 2009 at 03:40 PM.

Oct 9, 2009, 03:29 PM	#3
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Re: Minister Christine Daniel Arrested This witch should be executed , she has deceived many and caused death to 4 people according to the article. __________________

Oct 9, 2009, 03:48 PM	#4
IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,917 Rep Power: 336 System Specs	Re: Minister Christine Daniel Arrested Judging by the demographic she targeted, it's likely that those people would have died in the same timespan anyway. At least I like to think that she didn't harm them physically even if she did take their money and didn't help either, it's sad enough that way. __________________ If anyone has Portal 2 and hasn't played the co-op and wants to do me a favour, let me know (PM me or whatever).

Oct 9, 2009, 04:06 PM	#5
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Re: Minister Christine Daniel Arrested I agree that anyone believed her must have been too silly or that was the last hope for them so they did that. But actually she abused them and it appears that she didn't tell their "preys" about fail rate. __________________

Oct 9, 2009, 05:26 PM	#7
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Re: Minister Christine Daniel Arrested Normally ,A doctor is supposed to offer real physical medicaments. __________________

Oct 9, 2009, 07:04 PM	#10
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Re: Minister Christine Daniel Arrested The psychological and physical effects are overlapping . we can't isolate each one from the other. __________________

Oct 11, 2009, 05:05 AM	Thread Starter #11
~~RE III - Frankie~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,754 Rep Power: 0	Re: Minister Christine Daniel Arrested If they put this person i jail (which they already have) for not even having physically harmed these people and accepting (money) that "they" volunteered, then I put this down directly to satanistic devil worshipism.

Oct 11, 2009, 08:07 AM	#12
~~CitySlicker~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 183 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Minister Christine Daniel Arrested Welcome to the commerce with health! doctors are not there to heal you..they want you on pills for the rest of your life..only that generates the desired revenues in the pockets of the governments, pharmaceutical industry and the doctor. It's globally the same game everywhere - health has become the most mischievous industry on this planet and it is still perfectly legal.

Oct 11, 2009, 12:27 PM	#14
Neshi S.N.A.F.U. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wellington, NZ Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 177 System Specs	Re: Minister Christine Daniel Arrested what she did was no alternative medicine.. prayers don't cure cancer.. This discussion shouldn't be about the question if alternative medicine works or not, because it does. But what she practiced wasn't alternative medicine. __________________ If one does not attach himself to people and desire, never shall his heart be broken. But then, does he ever truly live? Life is just too damn short for if's and maybe's