Big Bang, do you believe that how the universe Began?

dawgXdenta · Nov 11, 2009, 02:09 PM

Just wanna know how many ya'll agree.

Tyrsonswood · Nov 11, 2009, 02:11 PM

Actually it was just the opposite..... an implosion. It was called the great suck.

dawgXdenta · Nov 11, 2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

Actually it was just the opposite..... an implosion. It was called the great suck.

My friend ur killin me today

dawgXdenta · Nov 11, 2009, 02:28 PM

I do so long as another better theory comes along to disprove it , and it would have to explain dark matter and dark energy, coz as far as I can remember from my 1st and 2nd year physics they didnt know what the hell those things really were and how they came about.

OmegaRED · Nov 11, 2009, 02:34 PM

I chose "just a theory"; it's the most plausible theory available and has stood the test of time so I accept it as the answer but it's far from scientific fact.

Tinkerhell · Nov 11, 2009, 02:52 PM

Sure, as long as you don't mind me believing that God caused that bang to happen then I can live with that being the means by which He created the Earth.

Judas · Nov 11, 2009, 04:59 PM

theory

Jac · Nov 11, 2009, 08:17 PM

Best theory at present.

If you asked me to explain singularities or Quantum mechanics I wouldn't have a clue. To be honest I'm not really that concerned. I am 99.5% certain that magic fairies/pixies/gods didn't do it though

dawgXdenta · Nov 11, 2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jac

Best theory at present.

I am 99.5% certain that magic fairies/pixies/gods didn't do it though

whats the 0.5% for then, part o ya hangin on to hope that Father Xmas and his cohorts did it?

Jac · Nov 12, 2009, 07:52 AM

The .5 represents the fact that absolute certainty is unachievable.

isaak · Nov 12, 2009, 08:24 AM

Its the most plausible theory at the moment, so i voted "of course, it's science"

Judas · Nov 12, 2009, 03:14 PM

The universe rotates on it's axis as well, which revolves around the multiverse which..........

BlueMak · Nov 12, 2009, 04:49 PM

I find it almost insulting to claim that the universe (that is EVERYTHING) is just about 13-14 or so, billion years old. Perhaps this part of the universe is at about 20, but the whole thing? Nah.

So yes, it's possible that this part was created with a Bing Bang, but I don't believe the whole universe has a start-beginning. There is no reason to have one/any.

Tyrsonswood · Nov 12, 2009, 04:59 PM

No matter how many millions (billions) get spent on trying to figure this out, nobody will EVER know for sure. It's a huge waste of time and money.....

lets feed some starving people or stop a couple of wars instead!!!

Judas · Nov 12, 2009, 05:48 PM

how old was the small then an atom sized initial state of the universe was before the big bang?.... wasn't it still a universe... just in a small space?

skylineaddict · Nov 12, 2009, 09:31 PM

I will not believe something really really happened unless there is conclusive evidence for it. That being said, the Big Bang theory has more evidence supporting it than competing theories, and that's why I support it, but will not say that's exactly what happened. No one can say exactly what happened unless they go back in time and witness it. Anyone have a time machine?

Optix · Nov 13, 2009, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

Actually it was just the opposite..... an implosion. It was called the great suck.

I had a girl friend in high school who went by that name.

Ahem...

Anyway, I am not sure what I believe. I was raised an Anglican but regularly attended a Wesleyan church through high school. I am not sure what or why I started to distance myself from Christianity.

The biblical knowledge is still in tact but an unwillingness to fully believe it keeps me from putting 2 and 2 together and standing behind creation.

As for the big bang theory, that is a lot of things that just happened to go right at the same time rolled up in a one in a bajillion chance with a side order of improbability. I have a better chance of tripping over a winning lottery ticket than I do having the circumstances become just right so that a new universe with new life forms on the back side of my toilet.

I run a clean ship so if that did happen I probably wouldn't even know it.

I'm content with simply being here and making the most of it for myself and for others. That is what I would rather put my time and effort into doing instead of pondering creation vs big bang/evolution.

dawgXdenta · Nov 13, 2009, 03:08 PM

Its always nice to know,ive realized that life or ages are divided by those who know and those who are happy to believe what they are told.

My belief is that there is no creation as science doesn't support it, I do believe that the universe goes through phases of life and death far longer than anyone can find evidence for it, so the big bang would be the beginning of the cycle of life from the universe

and Judas what the hell man , multiverse,i've head that from some scientists but I learned something quite interesting , all dimensions exist within the same-space for example you can track 1 dim, 2 dim , 3dim here within THIS dim, is it also not possible for 1000th dim to exist HERE as well we are just unaware of it.

@ Tyrsons ur right man those guys buidling that collider should spend that money on a farming mechanism that will feed starving people,they could build 10 skyscrapers with that money that they can have farms in them.
Whats lacking is the people organising the funds dont givashit

BlueMak · Nov 13, 2009, 05:16 PM

Farming and feeding people? There is enough technology and food to feed everyone on the planet. It's not a matter of money spent elsewhere that causes famine and disease.

dawgXdenta · Nov 13, 2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueMak

Farming and feeding people? There is enough technology and food to feed everyone on the planet. It's not a matter of money spent elsewhere that causes famine and disease.

You havta make me ask dontcha, so what is it a matter of?

BlueMak · Nov 14, 2009, 01:34 PM

Beaurocracy, plus, it doesn't make profit. Plus it is better to have a part of the population living in worse conditions so that they do the shit you don't want to do, and with lower wages. Just giving away food, water, medicine for to be a good human, doesn't pay the bills at home, it doesn't make the salaries of the people making it possible and it just doesn't make any financial sense.
Also, when you have, in some areas, people forming up gangs, tribes, whatever, to use any given help to help their own subsection of people so that they gain local power, you just start to think, why the fuck should I care? They are going to kill each other anyway.

There is plenty of food and ways to get the food on any part of the planet. There are just not enough good reasons to do it. Plus, you might help a homeless guy on the street, but that doesn't mean you want to feed him every single day for the rest of your life. Same train of thought.

Tyrsonswood · Nov 14, 2009, 02:02 PM

There is one good reason................. humanity!

BlueMak · Nov 14, 2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrsonswood

There is one good reason................. humanity!

If you are one of the cogs of the machine that sens food to them, and you get paid to do so, or not. If you choose if you are going to get paid to do your job, and feed yourself and your own family, or not for the sake of "humanity". What will you do? Demand money for your time or do it for free? It's as simple as that. And that is just a very simple way of seeing things.

Anyway, this has nothing to do with the main topic, let's not go off topic.

deBelly · Nov 14, 2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueMak

I find it almost insulting to claim that the universe (that is EVERYTHING) is just about 13-14 or so, billion years old. Perhaps this part of the universe is at about 20, but the whole thing? Nah.

So yes, it's possible that this part was created with a Bing Bang, but I don't believe the whole universe has a start-beginning. There is no reason to have one/any.

Well, I guess that it is possible that time itself, as we know it, is that old. But there was something before the time.
And I think it is generally accepted that current expansion of the universe (after Big Bang) is just a phase in a never-ending cycle of expansions and contractions.
BTW, i hear that they have recently disproved the theory that meteor impact killed dinosaurs.

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Originally Posted by BlueMak

Farming and feeding people? There is enough technology and food to feed everyone on the planet. It's not a matter of money spent elsewhere that causes famine and disease.

I'm an agricultural engineer, and one of the first things they told us in university was that Earth could easily feed 80+ billions of people. And that's without exotic methods like hydroponics and stuff.

dawgXdenta · Nov 14, 2009, 06:07 PM

@ Blue sad but true, no worries somehow I know we'll learn how to care for one another, but I'm afraid we'll learn only when we've brought each other to the brink of utter destruction suffering and poverty not yet seen here.

Anyway yeah the big bang, been there done that

dawgXdenta · Nov 14, 2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by deBelly

I'm an agricultural engineer, and one of the first things they told us in university was that Earth could easily feed 80+ billions of people. And that's without exotic methods like hydroponics and stuff.

Wow and here the media tells us all these LIES that there isnt enough.

SeraphicSorcerer · Nov 17, 2009, 02:02 PM

It's a good theory, but I wasn't able to observe it as it happened therefore not a fact. So until the LHC causes a gigantic blackhole, and we do it all over again, I'll go with it for now.

dawgXdenta · Nov 18, 2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SeraphicSorcerer

It's a good theory, but I wasn't able to observe it as it happened therefore not a fact. So until the LHC causes a gigantic blackhole, and we do it all over again, I'll go with it for now.

Ahhhhhh, i thought you were not that old

iPlayer · Nov 29, 2009, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dawgXdenta

Wow and here the media tells us all these LIES that there isnt enough.

Didn't you know of the crops surplus that often gets destroyed supposedly to keep prices high?

dawgXdenta · Nov 29, 2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by iPlayer

Didn't you know of the crops surplus that often gets destroyed supposedly to keep prices high?

I just didns know how bad it was

View Poll Results: Big Bang real or not?
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Nov 11, 2009, 02:09 PM	#1
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dawgXdenta HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gabz Posts: 1,995 Rep Power: 135 System Specs	Re: Big Bang, do you believe that how the universe Began? I do so long as another better theory comes along to disprove it , and it would have to explain dark matter and dark energy, coz as far as I can remember from my 1st and 2nd year physics they didnt know what the hell those things really were and how they came about. __________________ Today's world is of public opinion and the fates of nations are determined through its pressure. Once the tools for building public opinion are obtained, everything that you asked for can be done. --- Osama bin Laden when relating how global media has the minds of the masses. ______________________________________ http://dawgxdenta.deviantart.com/gallery/

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Tinkerhell Not all fairies are nice. Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 989 Rep Power: 44	Re: Big Bang, do you believe that how the universe Began? Sure, as long as you don't mind me believing that God caused that bang to happen then I can live with that being the means by which He created the Earth. __________________ Stupidity should be painful if not terminal. Darwin for Sainthood!!

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Jac HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: England Posts: 763 Rep Power: 51 System Specs	Re: Big Bang, do you believe that how the universe Began? Best theory at present. If you asked me to explain singularities or Quantum mechanics I wouldn't have a clue. To be honest I'm not really that concerned. I am 99.5% certain that magic fairies/pixies/gods didn't do it though

Nov 12, 2009, 07:52 AM	#10
Jac HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: England Posts: 763 Rep Power: 51 System Specs	Re: Big Bang, do you believe that how the universe Began? The .5 represents the fact that absolute certainty is unachievable.

Nov 12, 2009, 08:24 AM	#11
isaak HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,286 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	Re: Big Bang, do you believe that how the universe Began? Its the most plausible theory at the moment, so i voted "of course, it's science" __________________ The first step... shall be to lose the way. - Galway Kinnell

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BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,470 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Re: Big Bang, do you believe that how the universe Began? I find it almost insulting to claim that the universe (that is EVERYTHING) is just about 13-14 or so, billion years old. Perhaps this part of the universe is at about 20, but the whole thing? Nah. So yes, it's possible that this part was created with a Bing Bang, but I don't believe the whole universe has a start-beginning. There is no reason to have one/any. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Nov 12, 2009, 09:31 PM	#16
skylineaddict Sleep Deprived Ant Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 895 Rep Power: 136 System Specs	Re: Big Bang, do you believe that how the universe Began? I will not believe something really really happened unless there is conclusive evidence for it. That being said, the Big Bang theory has more evidence supporting it than competing theories, and that's why I support it, but will not say that's exactly what happened. No one can say exactly what happened unless they go back in time and witness it. Anyone have a time machine? __________________ Couldn't come up with anything snappy to say, so I'll just be awkward.

Nov 13, 2009, 03:08 PM	Thread Starter #18
dawgXdenta HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gabz Posts: 1,995 Rep Power: 135 System Specs	Re: Big Bang, do you believe that how the universe Began? Its always nice to know,ive realized that life or ages are divided by those who know and those who are happy to believe what they are told. My belief is that there is no creation as science doesn't support it, I do believe that the universe goes through phases of life and death far longer than anyone can find evidence for it, so the big bang would be the beginning of the cycle of life from the universe and Judas what the hell man , multiverse,i've head that from some scientists but I learned something quite interesting , all dimensions exist within the same-space for example you can track 1 dim, 2 dim , 3dim here within THIS dim, is it also not possible for 1000th dim to exist HERE as well we are just unaware of it. @ Tyrsons ur right man those guys buidling that collider should spend that money on a farming mechanism that will feed starving people,they could build 10 skyscrapers with that money that they can have farms in them. Whats lacking is the people organising the funds dont givashit __________________ Today's world is of public opinion and the fates of nations are determined through its pressure. Once the tools for building public opinion are obtained, everything that you asked for can be done. --- Osama bin Laden when relating how global media has the minds of the masses. ______________________________________ http://dawgxdenta.deviantart.com/gallery/

Nov 13, 2009, 05:16 PM	#19
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,470 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Re: Big Bang, do you believe that how the universe Began? Farming and feeding people? There is enough technology and food to feed everyone on the planet. It's not a matter of money spent elsewhere that causes famine and disease. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Nov 14, 2009, 01:34 PM	#21
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,470 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Re: Big Bang, do you believe that how the universe Began? Beaurocracy, plus, it doesn't make profit. Plus it is better to have a part of the population living in worse conditions so that they do the shit you don't want to do, and with lower wages. Just giving away food, water, medicine for to be a good human, doesn't pay the bills at home, it doesn't make the salaries of the people making it possible and it just doesn't make any financial sense. Also, when you have, in some areas, people forming up gangs, tribes, whatever, to use any given help to help their own subsection of people so that they gain local power, you just start to think, why the fuck should I care? They are going to kill each other anyway. There is plenty of food and ways to get the food on any part of the planet. There are just not enough good reasons to do it. Plus, you might help a homeless guy on the street, but that doesn't mean you want to feed him every single day for the rest of your life. Same train of thought. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Nov 14, 2009, 06:07 PM	Thread Starter #25
dawgXdenta HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Gabz Posts: 1,995 Rep Power: 135 System Specs	Re: Big Bang, do you believe that how the universe Began? @ Blue sad but true, no worries somehow I know we'll learn how to care for one another, but I'm afraid we'll learn only when we've brought each other to the brink of utter destruction suffering and poverty not yet seen here. Anyway yeah the big bang, been there done that __________________ Today's world is of public opinion and the fates of nations are determined through its pressure. Once the tools for building public opinion are obtained, everything that you asked for can be done. --- Osama bin Laden when relating how global media has the minds of the masses. ______________________________________ http://dawgxdenta.deviantart.com/gallery/

Nov 17, 2009, 02:02 PM	#27
SeraphicSorcerer HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 2,295 Rep Power: 156 System Specs	Re: Big Bang, do you believe that how the universe Began? It's a good theory, but I wasn't able to observe it as it happened therefore not a fact. So until the LHC causes a gigantic blackhole, and we do it all over again, I'll go with it for now. __________________