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Old Apr 15, 2010, 05:36 PM   #1
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Wernher von Braun 1959 Wernher von Braun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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We find ourselves faced by powers which are far stronger than we had hitherto assumed and whose base is at present unknown to us. I cannot say more at present. We are now engaged in entering into closer contact with those powers.
Said by George Herbert Walker Bush acting Director of Central Intelligence to President Jimmy Carter in 1977 in referrence to "all information pertaining to UFOs"

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Hermann Oberth 1980 Hermann Oberth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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We cannot take the credit for our record advancement in certain scientific fields alone; we have been helped by the peoples of other worlds.
Daniel K. Inouye 1987 Daniel Inouye - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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There exists a shadowy government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, and its own fund-raising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of the national interest, free from all checks and balances and free from the law itself.
Also very little to no information perstaining to this man Gary McKinnon Gary McKinnon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia in which he was able to send out various bits of information he had uncovered to a few select high class researchers. While the circumstances of his arrest are quite interesting, plus how much the US government wants him, i find the various bits of information he was able to produce from his hackery to be interesting.

There are hundreds of thousands of quotes from top scientists, political figures, various representatives, etc and so forth throughout history that are both documented and searchable. What's also interesting is that in attempt to find some of these quotes, you need to use alternative search engines, but a few have managed to pull up the newspaper articles that specifically state these exact quotes from decades past.

A good example provided enough of an effort is put into it all, is this article here which has actually landed on wikipedia after it was exposed a number of years ago after having been uncovered and dug up by a number of people that happened to stumble on it.

Battle of Los Angeles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'd also suggest looking up some stuff by Dr. Norman Bergrun, a former NASA scientist whom played a critical part in the creation and deployment and analysis of the Voyager 1 and what he had discovered.

It was also announced by nasa that they had "accidently" erased hundreds to thousands of pictures taken during all the apollo missions. This announcement for the most part went without any or much coverage at all. And what nasa neglects to mention is that all the raw negatives had been sent to Japan, at which point a number of japaneese have not only had the privilage, but the ability to analysize a number of these photos with some interesting theories and conclusions, to date they don't publically state anything about them, however a few of the raw images have surfaced in a few locations, with a number of them still withheld for thier own interests and agreements.
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Watch the movie The Fourth Kind. Real or not, I found it fascinating.
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Judas do you think the Uk will become like that movie V for Vendatta
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Judas do you think the Uk will become like that movie V for Vendatta

No, in real life they would have caught his ass long before the end of the movie.
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No, in real life they would have caught his ass long before the end of the movie.

or not..
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No, that's just you and your double conspiracy theories Judas
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No, that's just you and your double conspiracy theories Judas
no..

that's just considering that possibility
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