Bahrain GP

blibbax · Jun 4, 2011, 12:57 PM

Bahrain F1 grand prix gets go-ahead despite widespread opposition | Sport | guardian.co.uk

Five concerns for Formula One teams over the Bahrain Grand Prix | Sport | The Guardian

Should the BBC (or insert local broadcaster here) refuse to air it?

Should the teams refuse to go?

Should governments refuse to lift the current "inadvisable" status of travel to Bahrain?

(Posted in political subforum because that seems closest. Obviously there are strong arguments for placement in the "Petrol Heads" or "Off-Topic" subforums, so feel free to move this thread.)

BlueMak · Jun 4, 2011, 04:22 PM

Why "should"?
To punish the government of Bahrain for not being democratic? You might as well ban the whole of the middle east, and china, etc.

What matters is, is it safe?
If I were a ruler of Bahrain I wouldn't want it to take place. Having thousands and thousands of people gathered where there is lots of international coverage...yeah...

blibbax · Jun 4, 2011, 04:33 PM

"Should" because the event going ahead constitutes an implicit acknowledgement of the hosts (Bahrain's government) as legitimate and worthy of doing business with.

You make a good point that Bahrain are not the only nation in the world to host a sports event while being undemocratic, but I was thinking more of recent atrocities, which surpass even what the likes of China has achieved in a long time.

BlueMak · Jun 4, 2011, 05:39 PM

With Iran having a direct interest in the country, do not expect any kind of major hits to the Bahrain government by the West.

blibbax · Jun 4, 2011, 06:48 PM

Iran takes more major hits than not hosting a F1 race itself (sanctions, embargoes etc.).

I think more important considerations are the vast oil wealth of the nation and the fact that it's the base of the U.S. Navy in the region. Neither of those are in the direct interests of F1 teams and broadcasters, however.

BlueMak · Jun 4, 2011, 08:22 PM

I don't think you got why I mention Iran.
The ruling house of Bahrain is of the minority of the population. Those protesting are the majority. The majority is also the same as the Iranian majority.
Figure out the rest on yourself, you are very clever.

blibbax · Jun 4, 2011, 08:31 PM

Ah, I see. You're right, I misinterpreted you. Again, though, such issues are not in the direct interests of F1 teams or broadcasters. Hopefully some of them have a conscience.

**MIG-31** · Jun 15, 2011, 08:21 PM

BBC Sport - FIA removes Bahrain Grand Prix from 2011 F1 calendar

blibbax · Jun 15, 2011, 08:40 PM

Yeah, saw that a few days back. Good news imo.

Jun 4, 2011, 12:57 PM	#1
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BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,483 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Re: Bahrain GP Why "should"? To punish the government of Bahrain for not being democratic? You might as well ban the whole of the middle east, and china, etc. What matters is, is it safe? If I were a ruler of Bahrain I wouldn't want it to take place. Having thousands and thousands of people gathered where there is lots of international coverage...yeah... __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Jun 4, 2011, 04:33 PM	Thread Starter #3
blibbax What does this do? Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 4,262 Rep Power: 254 System Specs	Re: Bahrain GP "Should" because the event going ahead constitutes an implicit acknowledgement of the hosts (Bahrain's government) as legitimate and worthy of doing business with. You make a good point that Bahrain are not the only nation in the world to host a sports event while being undemocratic, but I was thinking more of recent atrocities, which surpass even what the likes of China has achieved in a long time. __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure Alzheimer's, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH!

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BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,483 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Re: Bahrain GP With Iran having a direct interest in the country, do not expect any kind of major hits to the Bahrain government by the West. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Jun 4, 2011, 06:48 PM	Thread Starter #5
blibbax What does this do? Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 4,262 Rep Power: 254 System Specs	Re: Bahrain GP Iran takes more major hits than not hosting a F1 race itself (sanctions, embargoes etc.). I think more important considerations are the vast oil wealth of the nation and the fact that it's the base of the U.S. Navy in the region. Neither of those are in the direct interests of F1 teams and broadcasters, however. __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure Alzheimer's, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH!

Jun 4, 2011, 08:22 PM	#6
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,483 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Re: Bahrain GP I don't think you got why I mention Iran. The ruling house of Bahrain is of the minority of the population. Those protesting are the majority. The majority is also the same as the Iranian majority. Figure out the rest on yourself, you are very clever. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Jun 4, 2011, 08:31 PM	Thread Starter #7
blibbax What does this do? Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 4,262 Rep Power: 254 System Specs	Re: Bahrain GP Ah, I see. You're right, I misinterpreted you. Again, though, such issues are not in the direct interests of F1 teams or broadcasters. Hopefully some of them have a conscience. __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure Alzheimer's, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH!

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Jun 15, 2011, 08:40 PM	Thread Starter #9
blibbax What does this do? Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 4,262 Rep Power: 254 System Specs	Re: Bahrain GP Yeah, saw that a few days back. Good news imo. __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure Alzheimer's, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH!