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A London policeman has blamed the recent riots in the city on "violent, crime-related video games." Speaking to the London Evening Standard, the unnamed police constable advised residents in Tottenham to "Go home, get a takeaway and watch anything that happens on TV."
"These are bad people who did this," he continued. "Kids out of control. When I was young it was all Pacman and board games. Now they're playing Grand Theft Auto and want to live it for themselves."
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synthesis204

That is rich. I want Blibbax to come in here and start defending his good ol UK :P

I guess this just proves there are crazies everywhere. Movies/tv/magazines have a bigger influence on people than videogames, most of the time, anyway.

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MIG-31

Thats the biggest load of bull i have just read...

how on earth can he come to that conclusion when the riots were on saturday night..

I have been gaming for many many years and have never occured to me to take part in any crime... let alone a riot...

Im going to be honest here i would edge my Bets it's a Racial Thing behind the riots in tottenham against Authority....

The truth is in the uk The police/Government have no backbone to say what could be true.And no controll over the Laws (UK is way to soft)

It may be a combined thing with the comunity (And selected Youths perhaps) may of escalated it... Then later on try to place the blame and reasons against the local police force.

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Tyrsonswood

Sorry....

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BlueMak

So, poverty, unemployment, brainwashing that if you don't have enough money you are not worth living, stacking up of caravans of people, just cause, with far different cultures in the same area and expecting them to just work everything out, have nothing to do with the riots.

GTA though, that's the evil!

Fucking morons.

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MIG-31

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As this is no longer game related thread moved to P&R forum.

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comp_ali

I hope it gets well there soon. I feel sorry for shop owners/workers , I am all for beating the crap out of corrupt officers but those people have families and now they lost everything.

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BlueMak

I don't want to sound ugly, but, I wonder if certain newspapers there will write the same shit about the country and the british people, as they did with the riots in Athens a while ago. Not so fun when it happens near you, is it?

Stupid racist media aside, this will probably end sooner than later. The british usually have no problem arresting people, even if it takes a few more days. The only problem I have with the british law is that it is too lenient to scumbags.

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Jac

I think games like GTA may have some small affect on behaviours. It's not just games though, it's the whole youth culture in those area. I would say it's black culture but I don't think that's true anymore. It has it's roots in 90's gangsta rap where criminality and violence are glorified. Putting up an agressive front is the norm and the concept of making money through criminality at any cost. The notion that the only thing that matters is to get more and more money.

When you add in massive immigration from countries that have vastly different values to Britain then stuff like this is inevitable.

Supposedly these riots were set in motion because the police shot dead an armed criminal but I don't believe half the people out on the streets really care about that. It's an excuse to hit back at authority and maybe get their hands on some loot in the process.

Liqourice

It's the good old classic theme, there has to be a scape goat. Since the police are representatives of the government then can't put the blame on themselves so they need something else to point fingers at.

Sure, violent games can be an inspiration and perhaps even a triggering factor in some cases but the reason for such behavior lies beneath and a result of not taking things seriously from the beginning and helping kids with problems in an early stage before they end up getting scarred for life. Make sure people have jobs, give them decent salaries so they can support their families without having to work 2-3 jobs and instead have time for their children, improve schools and let every kid have the same chance. Prevention is a keyword here, help while there's still time. If the world worked like this then most of these type of problems would go away.

MIG-31

There has been a number disruption now in nottingham..... (My home town) and a few other citys.

And i think this is not going to end soon.

Now my Niece is in the forces as a Special (in case you don't know what these are ar Voluntary Unpaid officers in the uk).

You see from what she has seen on the inside of the Police force is two main problems.

You see they can't fight back incase they get counter sued if they injure somebody (Strange i know)

And secondly its the governments fault in some ways,Over the (Many) years they have made the Law So soft in this country.The people know they can kick off and very little consequences will follow.

Im also tired of hearing the "we have no Money Excuss" over and over... Just look at the cloths many of them are wearing...

People with Litterally no money don't spend it on Nike Trainers,Use Blackberrys....

And just do not know how ruining other peoples livilyhood as a method either.... All its going to do is make insurers pay out what could end up into the Billions up the prices and make everyone else paty for it...

It is just Mindless Thugery at the end of they day... And if they are willing to kill some one for the efforts towards damage,They have no respect for other peoples lives....

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blame canada.....

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comp_ali

@ MIG : And I was wondering why the police is just standing in front of the looters and not doing anything. I don't know much about the laws in UK but can't they stop those looters without using extreme force. I think that will be possible , police must have been trained on similiar situations.

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FuNsTeR

it's not the UK ... it is England .... you never see this thing happening in Scotland ... the reason being we don't have the levels of immigration England has .... England has no community spirit ... just areas populated with ethnic groups ... where whites are not welcome ... the put it simply ... the English don't know what they are and what they stand for ... and then their is the liberal lefties in the media that refuse to criticise these acts of vandalism/looting/violence ... many actually defend it .... if it happened here in Scotland we wouldn't stand for it the culprits would be found and publicly humilated via the media local and national and a few weeks later they would hanging from lamp poles or they would bee found dead .... because to put it mildly we scots tend not to be politically correct ... my personal opinion is the army should be sent in with a shoot to kill policy and take no prisoners

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MIG-31

This is a problem where most may agree or disagree with...

Year after Year the govenments over here say they listen to the public.. No they fu&king don't...

You see many years ago Polotics stemed around normal people who had Ideas they wanted to bring forward and were more down to earth than most polations of ther modern day.

You see where many issues over the years have changed due to many politics have gone towards the rich.

Over the last 15-20 years all MP's here tend to be Worth a considerable amount of money and do not have a clue what everyday working life is like... Our Current PM is worth £26m at the last time i know of... Of course,its not his fault as he has come from a sucsesfull family..

Its just the fact that governments have let the Human Rights Campaners take over simply telling others on what to do and what to say.

So this is where they have lost the Roots of control...

I have heard over and over from many people on the streets the softer the uk law becomes something is going to spark off major problems in the uk...

And here we are today seeing many lives ruined.. And for what ?

Its simply down to a Government we have no bacbone to say we don't take any crap from the Human Rights etc... Not all together but they need to stop the EU laws controlling what is done here...

I rember the Minors Riots back in 82.... The ploice were allowed reasonable force to be required...

Tear Gas/Water Cannons/Rubber Bullits were used.. Why not bring them back..

Personally i think it could be time to bring back the use of the ARMY in cases like this... Lets see how the MINDLESS idiots compair against an ARMED FORCE ?

OH Yeah,have we got a ARMY ? apart from those who is in Afghanistan/Iraq & Lybia... What a friggin joke Lybia is.

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MIG-31

Sorry but imo....i have no issues with scotts.so i never understand the issues Scotts have against the UK.. (OK England if you want it that way)

But every other countrys having riots like the ones over the last few days...

Many of them would simply be DEAD way before know... Its may be harsh but far more effective if the Mindless idiots faced a far more stricter force.

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FuNsTeR

their is no UK law Mig just two seperate laws English law and Scottish law ... England has been engulfed in political correctness and a culture grief .. where folk are trying out grieve each other when someone famous dies ... English culture is dead .... you're more concerned about being British than being English ... the exact opposite is true in Scotland ... the difference between Scotland and England in attitude to being attacked is huge ... take the case of the terrorist attack on Glasgow Airport .... where the terrorists were beaten to a pulp by the passengers at the airport ... if that happened in a English airport ... folk would have been trying to put the fire out the terrorist who attacked a police woman whilst ablaze ... whereas in Glasgow the passengers beat the shit out of him and let him burn to a crisp

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FuNsTeR

it is not anti England thing Mig ... the English people have lost their identity ... i don't know why England is a great place ... but you have become to soft to scared of offending people

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MIG-31

I sure remember that,And i will never forget that day..It happend on the same day i were going to make my first ever venture outside the uk via a flight..

I were nervous enough about flighing let alone watching the news at EM airport about glasgow.

And yes a huge amount of praise to the guy who Kicked one of the who were burning right in the knackers...

And about the UK (England) yes we have lost touch....

Also Lybia must be Laughing at us now... Invade Lybia for Human Rights Reasons when england can't look after there own country... What a friggin joke.

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0930: Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast has urged the UK government to avoid "harsh confrontation" and exercise restraint when dealing with demonstrators, BBC Monitoring reports.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/iran-chides...163046198.html

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BlueMak

Yes, you have to give the Iranians an applause for that statement, it was funny and very British type of humor. lol

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Judas

there is a defining difference between properly demonstrating..

it's completely different if there are people destroying property in the process....

Best yet is when the demonstrators beat the shit out of those that are destroying things.. but this doesn't happen often.

Sadly, instead of properly taking action against the truely ilegal.. they would rather lump everyone innocent or guilty together and press charges later, or emediately..

A lot of people have a damn good reason to be pissed off.... specially recently... i just don't think a good majority truly understand why beyond their own related issues..... and aren't taking in the bigger picture.... nor are many people even trying to think of solutions... no they'd rather moan and cry for someone else to do it. and instead of doing their own damn work in the process... they would rather continue to repeat the same mistakes over and over again by "electing" an idiot thinking they will beam sunlight and rainbows all over them and rain cash from the skies, only to be over and over and over again taken for a sucker.

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BlueMak

I don't care what your problem is, if you attack someone else who has nothing to do with your predicament, then fuck you. The people who lost their stores and houses? over this, what did they do to the people demonstrating.
They are nothing but thugs and don't deserve anything else than severe punishment, and if the "West" hadn't been pussified over the last 20 years, they would get what they deserve.

Actions and anarchy like this will only, once again, help the eventual rise of the far right, not just in the UK. People will simply get fed up with this lack of punishment of everyone apart those who commit crimes. Then, the shocked sociologists, media and politicians, will claim an outrage over how so many people support far right movements.

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This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm Sic semper tyrannis.

Neshi

why should we have respect for people, who clearly have no respect for others and their property?
capital punishment is required as they clearly demonstrated (no pun intended) they can't function in society.

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Judas

fair to draft those that did damage and send them to the front lines of any war that may occur...

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BlueMak

That would be too cruel to the enemy, having to shoot pussies.

Force them to build public works, while wearing headphones and having to listen to Friday while they are doing that. Later on make them watch Phantom Menace every night. As mentioned before, for any communication with the outside world force them to do it through Facebook full of spam messages, and learn the news of the day through myspace.

Come to think of it, do that for terrorists too.

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The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis
This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm Sic semper tyrannis.

Neshi

so the community continues to pay for their ignorance and stupidity.. real clever. :/

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BlueMak

what? how does the community pay? Think of all the money saved from the sla, from the prisoner workers.

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The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis
This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm Sic semper tyrannis.

BlueMak

We are a cheerful bunch here aren't we?

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This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm Sic semper tyrannis.

Neshi

you've gotta house them, feed them, medical assistence, keep them from running so you need security. Besides, you want them to wear headphones and listen to music as well?

bullets are so much cheaper.. unless you want work camps like the germans and the russians did it, but that would cause some sort of uproar somewhere else...

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