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DriverHeaven Junior Member
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In response to the 'sue your own customer' strategy been pursued by the US music industry, a series of protests and other boycotts have been organized. Central to the series of protests is the group Boycott-RIAA and Bill Evans.
The street protests are been organized for August 2nd with a clear aim of getting a message across to the big 5 labels, the RIAA and congress. There are already street leaders planning protests in states including Texas, New Mexico and Georgia. A series of protests are been planed for various venues in California. The street protests have been gaining large momentum in recent days. One person who plans to distribute anti-US music industry information on August 2 told Slyck that that he was doing it to show the music industry how much they have lost touch with their own consumer. Boycott-RIAA are also, in line with the EFF, encouraging P2P users to pick up the phone and contact your Congress person and Senators on Friday August 1st to encourage them to hold hearings on p2p and file sharing. Some other groups are attempting to organize an indefinite boycott of CD purchases from August 1. Boycott Riaa http://www.boycott-riaa.com |
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HardwareHeaven Extreme Member
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allready showng my support notice the sig
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I'll be at a nice tech conference on August 1st - I've packed my anti-RIAA signs in my suitcase already
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My dad already has anti RIAA bumperstickers on his truck. He got them a while ago and it was about how the RIAA only gave about 4 cents to an artist for every CD they sold for 15$.
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HardwareHeaven Extreme Member
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the enire royalty and makeing of the disk is like 29 cents each full cd.. singles are less probublty were the 4 cent figure came from
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RIAA is Ca Ca
I think the policies and politics of the RIAA is a legacy of the industry say 50 years ago....they need to adapt and find a new source of income, because as surely as they would like to control the access to the creative market the further they will distance themselves from the consumer and we will find a way...Remember the prohibition when alcohol production was controlled by the government? It allowed the gangs to rise to power and overwhelm cities with illegal booze....Better the RIAA to adapt and stay with trends in technology and form a partnership with the file swappers than try to throttle their efforts to get the media they hunger for........I think this is a valid analogy...
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DriverHeaven Junior Member
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Dear, RIAA
With out us, there is no YOU! It will only be a matter of time before P2P programs will master the art of hiding IP’s from big brother. Then, finding out who holds the precious MP3’s will either be actual snooping of our hard drives (which they have already proposed to congress), or simply busting down our front doors and seizing our electronic equipment. Both of those examples are not too far fetched. Look at our rapper friend Dr. Dre and his butt buddy Eminem. They were found guilty of music copyright infringement a few weeks past. Not only that, currently they have another 10 million dollar case going to court. If you dig even deeper, he was in a scandal for stealing George Lucas’s Sonic boom sound. All this while he and his corn cob buddy were waving their sticks around saying, “Don’t steal my music!”. Don’t forget, the RIAA had their arms locked with these mofo’s preaching against MP3’s. Now, did any of us see this in the headline news? I know I didn’t, until someone actually told me in person. I haven’t done much research, but apple seems to have a good thing with their imusic (not sure of the actual name). Even I would pay a buck per song, maybe even two dollars. Yet, some bands/artists refuse to sell their music this way, even though their getting paid. Hmmm… If they refuse to find another way to work this out, then maybe it’s time for another company to take charge. Stop buying CD’s! Pass out as many boycott-riaa stickers/flyers as you can. Get the word out, as a whole the consumer is GOD or (enter maker here). Do not bite the hand that feeds you…
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Old Codger
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Well said brother
I personally will not bite, I respect their intentions, just not their tactics
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DriverHeaven Senior Member
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Yeah, well somebody pointed out the cost of making the media. There is nothing on this earth to justfy what they actually charge.
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Emninem - The Eminem Show CD - $18.99 Enough said, DIE RIAA!!! |
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That is a bit hypocritical of dre.
I am a musican and I just think that media should be free to you if you cannot afford it, There is never a case for commercial piracy through, Its all about control the big companies want to, admittedly maybe piracy has got a bit out of hand but the mesures they use are enough to make me not care. I feel sorry for dr. dre getting done for sampling, This kind of action just strangles creativety, how can you get done for nicking a sound?, what do they do check the waveform? that is stupid, how can you copyright a sound and anyway hip hop was built on sampling from the start. I cannot see why music or sounds can belong to anyone. Music is for people's enjoyment if you enjoy it and can afford pay for it great. lawyers make me sick. |
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The best way to boycott the RIAA is to simply NOT buy any CD's at all. Oh, not forever, just long enough....say 6 months just to get the point across. It's not like the artists are going to lose much money if they only make about 4 cents per CD sold. The way I undestand it, artists make most of their money from concerts anyway.
I have coined a phrase....at least, as far as I know I coined it where I take the acronym RIAA to be said like 'ree-ah'. The phrase? "DIE-A-RIAA cha cha cha". It has a two-sided meaning, the obvious is for the RIAA to go away. The other is a statement about how they are crapping on their customers freely, but without much solidity to their claims.Sure, I've downloaded music, who hasn't? But 80% of the MP3's that I have are ripped from CD's I already own. 5% are tunes I downloaded to recover music from a scratched CD. And another 10% are from the old vinyl records that I had, which, AGAIN, I had already purchased but are either scratched up or would rip very poorly to an MP3. That leaves a meager 5% of the music I have as being music I didn't purchase. Of that 5%, I actually HAVE bought some CD's based on what I heard from those downloads. Much of that 5% is stuff that was fan created (remixes) and not found in stores. So tell me, how does that translate into millions of dollars of loss to the RIAA? I'm not trying to sell any of the music I D/L'd, it's for me, my own personal use. I honestly don't believe that the RIAA is losing nearly as much money as they try to make out they are. If anything, they are just not making their projected profits they expected, they aren't losing anything, they're just not GAINING any. That could happen even if P2P didn't exist. If the RIAA fines people for D/L'ing music, it just feeds the fire, those people now don't have any money to buy a CD because the RIAA lawyers already sucked it out of them....and probably far more than that person would have purchased in CD's anyhow. Just for the record, I have NEVER even attempted to download a movie. I figure that what bands ought to do is start a website where they can sell their music to the public and forget about the RIAA altogether. Even if they sold each tune for 25cents, they would be making over 5 times the profit that the RIAA gives them for a whole album. iTunes is OK, and it's a step in the right direction, but bands could totally eliminate the middle-men if they took things into their own hands. All the RIAA is doing is ticking-off the very same people they relied upon for their profits, which isn't going to help them one little bit. It just makes their "customers" all the more vindictive. So, I say once again: DIE-A-RIAA cha cha cha. |
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Well RIAA had it comming and other industries will follow I guess it's just human evolution.
I mean this ppl make quazilions because of confused 14 yo kids going out to buy the new Emminem (WHAT A FAD) record for £15 a hit while if you want to find something you can listen to (like the blues or some nice rock tynes) you have to go to the basement of the Virgin Megastore coz Britney Spears and her lookalikes have to have the whole ground floor. Music has been turned into a multimillion dollar industry while it is supposed to be art. So Kazaa rules and RIAA and all other corporations can simply move on or die. I am sick of ppl shouting that piracy is killing music, no corporationistic tacktics killed music now RIAA must die so that music can be reborn. Don't boycot RIAA stop buying records for ever. As for the movie world well they should allready be preparing for a very long war. Mel Gibson, Vin Diesel (whatever his name is I don't care), Mr Julia Roberts get ready. The Kazaa has you. £30 for a DVD and a fiver for a cinema ticket hahahaha. Long live broadband Long live Kazaa Long live the pirates of the www.
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