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Old Jul 11, 2002, 11:01 AM   #1
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I love guns. Flame me please, I want to argue about it.
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Old Jul 11, 2002, 11:10 AM   #2
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fck yeah, give me a good barett .50 any day.

really good for "hunting" >=)

[SIZE=xx-small]hunting gun control tards that is[/SIZE]
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I just have guns so I can protect myself, since the police aren't legally obligated to protect you or anything.

Well, I don't have any yet, but when I am of age I will.

Ryoko, people like you are the people that give people like us a bad name.
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Old Jul 11, 2002, 11:27 AM   #4
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Ryoko, people like you are the people that give people like us a bad name.
people who give us a bad name aren't the gun owners. they are the gun thiefs. oh, and the whiny motherfvckers in congress who take money from whoever the hell gives it to em to pass laws that can be twisted to make the average aol user think it was a good thing.

give me a congress who are not easily influenced and who are deadset on doing what is right for the people, not what the people think is right.

i'm all for communism (done right, there hasn't really ever been a communist nation, btw) if you haven't noticed.
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Old Jul 11, 2002, 11:29 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #5
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people who give us a bad name aren't the gun owners. they are the gun thiefs. oh, and the whiny motherfvckers in congress who take money from whoever the hell gives it to em to pass laws that can be twisted to make the average aol user think it was a good thing.

give me a congress who are not easily influenced and who are deadset on doing what is right for the people, not what the people think is right.
I'd have to agree with that. However, it doesn't help much if you threaten people with something you are trying to protect.
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Old Jul 11, 2002, 11:32 AM   #6
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I'd have to agree with that. However, it doesn't help much if you threaten people with something you are trying to protect.
this is the flame warzone, isn't it?

ok, so i (probably) won't go on a shooting spree. but damnit, seeing a deer's head explode as a 50 calibur bullet passes through it at 8000 feet per second surely is a satisfying sight
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this is the flame warzone, isn't it?

ok, so i (probably) won't go on a shooting spree. but damnit, seeing a deer's head explode as a 50 calibur bullet passes through it at 8000 feet per second surely is a satisfying sight


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Old Jul 11, 2002, 11:42 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #8
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Eating the deer is even more satisfying.
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this is the flame warzone, isn't it?

ok, so i (probably) won't go on a shooting spree. but damnit, seeing a deer's head explode as a 50 calibur bullet passes through it at 8000 feet per second surely is a satisfying sight


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the entire time i watched bambi, i kept thinking about how good fresh venison jerky tasted...
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Yum.

Venison stew, venison stew,
It's my favorite thing to do!
Get a pot and a deer or two,
And cook up some venison stew!
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Old Jul 11, 2002, 01:16 PM   #11
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I'm Pro-Gun all the way, ever citizen should at least know how to use one even if they refuse to own one. Also those that use guns as "tools" in their criminal activities should be held more accountable. Just pointing a gun at someone else while commiting a crime should get you 10 years minimum for being a gutless, punk@ss b1tch.
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Where the hell is all the anti-gun liberal shit? I was expecting to get yelled at or something, but pretty much everyone seems to agree. Should of posted this in the Off-Topic forum.
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Where the hell is all the anti-gun liberal shit? I was expecting to get yelled at or something, but pretty much everyone seems to agree. Should of posted this in the Off-Topic forum.
I agree with you on the gun thingy, but i noticed in your sig your current sorry excuse for a puter? My GOD man, join the 90's, get a real computer. I throw away systems faster than you got. I take it your career at McDonald's hasn't worked out like you had hoped.

You know you should should treat people with a little more respect, someday, It’s gonna be our tax dollars paying for your prison cell!



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I'm with my fellow Virginian Ryoko on this one. Between my brothers and I we have enough guns to start a militia. Come on Bin Laden, let's go deer hunting together. Two go in, only one comes out.
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If we didn't have guns how the heck would we protect ourselves from the bad people (niggers) ?





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If we didn't have guns how the heck would we protect ourselves from the bad people (niggers) ?





edit: Now THIS should start a war!
I don't think so. The folks around here are a cut above your average sites member, they don't do the knee-jerk/pavlovian response/monkey-dance for you every time you say the n-word.

Sorry ByteMe, methinks they ain't gonna fall for your bait. I thought you had more class than that....sleeping with my mother and all!
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I don't think so. The folks around here are a cut above your average sites member, they don't do the knee-jerk/pavlovian response/monkey-dance for you every time you say the n-word.

Sorry ByteMe, methinks they ain't gonna fall for your bait. I thought you had more class than that....sleeping with my mother and all!

Umm, yea. Sorry about your mom. I figured it was the least I could do for ya.
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Guns are for pu$$ies! A spoon however is one freaky and disgusting weapon. You want a liberal peace and love bastard, you've got one here. Can't stand the US for their "We got guns to protect ourselfs" mentality. God damnit. The states have highest rate of murder/accidents by guns than any other freakin "civilized" nation. Gimme a break! The only people you are protecting is yourself from a stupid sentence in your own law books that permit all of ya to have guns. I had a friend that got shot by a drive by while visiting the windy city. Man was I pissed of then, that I am now. And the gun... stolen from an unlocked gun cabinet. Oh! If ya wanna flame. Flame this way cuz I'm iching to give a good ass wooping old fashion style : aluminum louisville slugger bat's only!
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Guns are for pu$$ies! A spoon however is one freaky and disgusting weapon. You want a liberal peace and love bastard, you've got one here. Can't stand the US for their "We got guns to protect ourselfs" mentality. God damnit. The states have highest rate of murder/accidents by guns than any other freakin "civilized" nation. Gimme a break!
You fucking moron. We have the highest murder rate because our punishment system sucks. We have the highest accident rate because we have the worst fucking education system in the world. People leave school without learning how to read, write, or use common sense.

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The only people you are protecting is yourself from a stupid sentence in your own law books that permit all of ya to have guns.
THE BEST REASON TO OWN A GUN IS TO PROTECT MYSELF IN THE FIRST PLACE! ISN'T THAT A FUCKING POINT WE ALREADY COVERED? ANYWAY. THE LAW DOES NOT PERMIT PEOPLE TO SHOOT EACH OTHER, NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT MOST CRIMES ARE COMMITED WITH ILLEGALLY OBTAINED GUNS, YOU FUCKING MORON.

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had a friend that got shot by a drive by while visiting the windy city. Man was I pissed of then, that I am now. And the gun... stolen from an unlocked gun cabinet. Oh! If ya wanna flame. Flame this way cuz I'm iching to give a good ass wooping old fashion style : aluminum louisville slugger bat's only!
Thank the society of stupid people, which liberals like you created with shitty programs like welfare, for the shooting of your friend. If Americans had half a brain, then you wouldn't have fucked up, but preventable, things like this happen.

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I'm totally against guns, there's just too many morons in the world and guns are too f-ing easy for them to make a mistake with. (None of the fine folk here would be included in that category...'cept maybe BM.... )

That being said, for some bod gamned reason I'm seriously thinking about picking myself up one of these.

The word I'm looking for isn't quite "paranoid" or "scared", but for some strange reason ever since 9/11 I've been wanting to start packing again...'specially since I have a family. I just hate the thought of something happening and not being in a position to do anything about it. (ie. return fire) They're giving out concealed weapon permits like dog licenses right now to responsible white male republican looking types in my town right now, (Oh yes, my town government is prejudiced as hell IMHO. I ain't proud of it, just mentioning.), which hilariously enough is a pretty good physical description of me since I traded the rather unkept long-haired look for an 1/8th crew cut. (The grey probably helps too...)

Am I totally insane for thinking this way? Am I totally nuts for basing my choice of new firearms on a recomendation from John Mullins? (The real one, not the game charector.) I used to really like the AMC backup .380, but this piece looks sweeter.

Feel free to rip in, I had to get the thought out.
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THE LAW DOES NOT PERMIT PEOPLE TO SHOOT EACH OTHER, NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT MOST CRIMES ARE COMMITED WITH ILLEGALLY OBTAINED GUNS, YOU ****ING MORON.
Could you please read before you type. I wrote "And the gun... stolen from an unlocked gun cabinet" for a reason. Most guns that kill other people in the states are guns coming from gun shops or OTHER GUN OWNERS. If the guy stole a gun that way, that means that the gun was LEGALLY AVAILABLE in that area, therefore meaning that all of this crap would have been avoided (to a certain insane extreme) if every freakin US citizen were NOT ALLOWED to own guns in general.

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THE BEST REASON TO OWN A GUN IS TO PROTECT MYSELF IN THE FIRST PLACE! ISN'T THAT A ****ING POINT WE ALREADY COVERED? ANYWAY. THE LAW DOES NOT PERMIT PEOPLE TO SHOOT EACH OTHER, NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT MOST CRIMES ARE COMMITED WITH ILLEGALLY OBTAINED GUNS, YOU ****ING MORON.
If no citizen where allowed to own a gun you would therefore pretty much NOT FREAKING NEED IT TO PROTECT YOU because the average thug WOULDNT OWN ONE because he could not steal a PREVIOUSLY OWNED GUN because no one could OWN A GUN.

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blah blah blah... society of stupid people, which liberals ... blah blah blah
Okay. Now I've really got enough of this american BS on politics. You guys (not all because there are a lot of great, intelligent and beautiful people that suffer because of people like you) who bitch at different parties are the lamest excuse of an individual. Geezus. If something goes wrong then you guys go "DAMN LIBERALS" or "FREAKIN DEMOCRATS". Don't you guys realize that the political agenda of every freakin politician is the same. That what they do in the whitehouse is the complete opposite of what happens back stage. That it's basically a WWF for politics where they hate each other in political debates, but are best of friends and co-workers when behind the curtain. Do you realize that it's because of closed-minded idiots like you that make your own freakin country not work at all and make and average "idiot" become president. I bet you can't even accept what other freakin political parties do correctly. They all fark up and they all do good stuff. If it wasn't for different political parties, you'd be communist by now (hehehe... this will certainly hit a nerve or two).

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HsuGotaQ I'm sorry that your friend was shot by a gun that was stolen from an unlocked gun safe. In a way I feel that the person who left the safe unlocked is just as responsible as the person pulling the trigger. I was raised around guns all of my life and taught responsibility from day one. Never leave them loaded, lock them up making sure only I know the combination of the lock and the only written down one is stored in a box at the bank. Never shoot up a hill, never point a gun at someone, lock ammo in seperate box away from gun. Always use a trigger lock before storage. These are a few of the rules I learned that either very few people follow or ignore all together. If more people would learn and *follow* these rules and if our law enforcement community and law makers would prosecute people harshly for breaking the law using a gun, I honestly think there would be a decrese in gun related deaths.
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Old Jul 17, 2002, 04:34 AM   #25
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Im gonna have to jump on with Hsugotaq. When are you stupid americans gonna realize that Guns have the same meaning of sports cars, to make a man feel bigger down below the belt. And anyone who says they need a gun for protection as a justification for having guns is this world is stupid, because if there were no guns we wouldn't need them to protect ourselves. I understand that there is alot of crazy people in this world but it would be alot safer if these nut cases were not carrying guns.

And for all those people who use guns to hunt for a past time, how can shooting a poor defensless animal be fun. Do they do it to assure themsleves that we are on top of the food chain? I think it is more like these animals are too peaceful and peace cannot be good because amercains are violent so lets kill animals so if there actually isn't a war that the states have nothing to do with, but are still fighting it, we can have some sort of war.

If in three hundred years from now, if the planet earth is not blown up by nuclear war already, an archeologist finds a gun he would say to himself that our time was a destructive period. This is true everything we develop these days is some sort of destrucvtive tool, be it to our health, our minds, the environment, the earth, and of course each other.

This message is long enough ill continue it someother time.
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Old Jul 17, 2002, 04:58 AM   #26
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Originally posted by Worthless Money
And for all those people who use guns to hunt for a past time, how can shooting a poor defensless animal be fun. Do they do it to assure themsleves that we are on top of the food chain? I think it is more like these animals are too peaceful and peace cannot be good because amercains are violent so lets kill animals so if there actually isn't a war that the states have nothing to do with, but are still fighting it, we can have some sort of war.



In the state of VA hunting is used to cull the *over population* of deer & other wildlife. Many would die of starvation from mankind's constant desire to take their habitat and build our own. Many others would die from disease from exposure to the ones dieing from starvation. I *don't* hunt to assure myself that I'm on the top of the food chain. Mankind took care of that one many years ago for me . I hunt and fish for the meat that I freeze and can and use throughout the year. I guess you don't eat meat either then or do you. If so take a tour of a slaughter house for any animal, chicken, cow, or pig and I'm sure you would be just as appalled as the way these poor peaceful animals are killed as well . Beheading and electro shock are only two ways domestic animals are slaughtered. Think of that when you are chomping down on your next steak or pork chop.
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To respond to you Frodo, there is reason that they made of of the whole killing to "cull the population" thing, simply because it is bullshit. If you do some research other than what they tell you on T.V.. The only "animals" that overpopulate are pretty much rats, and any sort of bug. LISTEN UP AMERICA the T.V. IS NOT A SOURCE OF INFORMATION. Another thing if your governor also said this well you should know by now that politicians are liars. That is all I have to say for now. This is not a shot at u directly because I don't know you, but just the situation.
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[SIZE=small]I guess you don't eat meat either then or do you. If so take a tour of a slaughter house for any animal, chicken, cow, or pig and I'm sure you would be just as appalled as the way these poor peaceful animals are killed as well . Beheading and electro shock are only two ways domestic animals are slaughtered. Think of that when you are chomping down on your next steak or pork chop.[/SIZE]

I have recently, watched a video on the conditions of slaughter houses, even though I already knew this was the first time I saw it. I realized how bad the conditions were, and I do still eat meat but since viewing this video I have become very critical of my eating meat and have since seriously cut down, with the intent to someday stop eating meat. You cannpt just simply stop eating meat because it is a shock to your system. I had to respond to that part of your message.
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In the state of VA hunting is used to cull the *over population* of deer & other wildlife.
What I'm going to say is off topic, but check this out (naturally from Fark.com) :

From the bad planning department: Wisconsin holds deer hunt to reduce diseased population. Now has to figure out where to dispose of "3 million pound problem"

He has a point Worthless Munkee. I'm for hunting to control the over population. In this case and the other one in the state of Washington with that freaky asian fish that's killing all other fishes in that habitat, hunting to control is a good thing. I still think It's cruel, but if other animals are gonna die because of this infected one, get out that MP5, shotgun or whatever and shred it to pieces... hmmm

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I realized how bad the conditions were, and I do still eat meat but since viewing this video I have become very critical of my eating meat and have since seriously cut down, with the intent to someday stop eating meat.
Woh... your turning vegetarian on us? damn. that was unexpected of you
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