the 9/11 legend

PoopyTheJ · Nov 16, 2003, 06:27 AM

for those of you who actually buy the government's explanation of 9/11 you might want to check this out. Warning a long read, but if you're brain-dead enough to buy the swill from the Whitehouse and the major media it'd probably do you some good to actually read something.

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KUP310A.html

The_Neon_Cowboy · Nov 16, 2003, 11:00 PM

IMO: it's not worth 1 minute of my time my time to read the 74 pages!
considering the soures...

anyone before you read just a look at the index of this site shall we.....
http://www.globalresearch.ca/

digerati · Nov 16, 2003, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

IMO: it's not worth 1 minute of my time my time to read the 74 pages!
considering the soures...

anyone before you read just a look at the index of this site shall we.....
http://www.globalresearch.ca/

That site makes my head hurt...

PoopyTheJ · Nov 16, 2003, 11:45 PM

hard to believe that you government is actively pursuing your destruction isn't it. Scary proposition because then of course you'd need to do something about it.

digerati · Nov 16, 2003, 11:52 PM

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Originally posted by gaborn415
hard to believe that you government is actively pursuing your destruction isn't it. Scary proposition because then of course you'd need to do something about it.

That website seems to like using Michael Moore as someone who is blessed with knowledge, which is someone I'm ashamed to call an American. So I don't really care what the site says, it's integrity is already worthless as far as I'm concerned.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Nov 16, 2003, 11:58 PM

who holds any in regards to the sites responsable for what it written there? were the FACTS? accuntablity?

NO ONE

so they write what ever they want, no one holds them resopnsable, it's not a creditable source for any information...

apparently some people belive everything they read.

BTW: i have a bridge in london to sell you... LOL

PoopyTheJ · Nov 16, 2003, 11:59 PM

Michael Moore I think is a useful disinformation tool. Good way to inflame the masses and keep the eye's off the real problem. Too bad to see another site buying his garbage.

digerati · Nov 17, 2003, 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by gaborn415
Michael Moore I think is a useful disinformation tool. Good way to inflame the masses and keep the eye's off the real problem. Too bad to see another site buying his garbage.

Which is my point, for a website to buy his garbage shows what standards they have in what they consider truthful and news-worthy.

PoopyTheJ · Nov 17, 2003, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
who holds any in regards to the sites responsable for what it written there? were the FACTS? accuntablity?

NO ONE

so they write what ever they want, no one holds them resopnsable, it's not a creditable source for any information...

apparently some people belive everything they read.

BTW: i have a bridge in london to sell you... LOL

Who keeps Fox CNN et al accountable? I certainly place more trust in the indy's than the giants, they only have to gain by keeping the status quo.

digerati · Nov 17, 2003, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by gaborn415
Who keeps Fox CNN et al accountable? I certainly place more trust in the indy's than the giants, they only have to gain by keeping the status quo.

The public. And you have to watch what Fox and CNN say. They say stuff like "allegedly" which means it's what they heard and it may not be true. But your site doesn't do stuff like that.

PoopyTheJ · Nov 17, 2003, 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by ^_^
The public. And you have to watch what Fox and CNN say. They say stuff like "allegedly" which means it's what they heard and it may not be true. But your site doesn't do stuff like that.

The public?

The public he says! Sorry but the public doesn't give a shit ifthe major media says it it MUST be true. They all take their talking points from the same source and use disinformation sources to define the boundries of debate. Look around there's plenty of news about how the major media fabricates crap.

digerati · Nov 17, 2003, 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by gaborn415
The public? The public he says! Sorry but the public doesn't give a shit ifthe major media says it it MUST be true. They all take their talking points from the same source and use disinformation sources to define the boundries of debate. Look around there's plenty of news about how the major media fabricates crap.

When the public feels lied to they stop watching Fox and CNN and then the companies lose lots of money, so believe it or not they try and get credited sources, but they do sell fabricated crap, but I'm sure a whole years worth of fox has less BS than the site you just gave.

PoopyTheJ · Nov 17, 2003, 12:28 AM

I'm afraid you're wrong, the JFK cover-up, Pearl Harbor, the whole 9/11 legend, The woman who filed the sex suit against bush found dead of a gunshot wound to the head, the major media won't touch it, outright lies are not the only fault of the Major Media, obfuscation and simply not airing news is the way the control what the populace thinks. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ar...eam_media.html check it out.

digerati · Nov 17, 2003, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gaborn415
I'm afraid you're wrong, the JFK cover-up, Pearl Harbor, the whole 9/11 legend, The woman who filed the sex suit against bush found dead of a gunshot wound to the head, the major media won't touch it, outright lies are not the only fault of the Major Media, obfuscation and simply not airing news is the way the control what the populace thinks. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ar...eam_media.html check it out.

Okay so now you're using conspiracy theories. The thing about conspiricies, is if they're so big and true and damaging, than a site like that wouldn't exist. Unless you're going to tell me that the big bad scary US can't take down a website o.O

PoopyTheJ · Nov 17, 2003, 12:40 AM

supposed to be working

back later.

digerati · Nov 17, 2003, 12:42 AM

But if you truly claim that website tells stuff the media wont touch then you're mistaken, it has this under "Cover-Up/Deceptions"
Jessica Lynch's story is turning 'into a monster' for the Bush administration
My mom tried to get me to watch that on tv the other night. Whole show about it.

bird chest · Nov 17, 2003, 12:50 AM

CNN is liberal so why would they hesitate to rebuff Bush's credility with this sex scandal you brought up

PoopyTheJ · Nov 17, 2003, 05:43 AM

CNN is liberal so why would they hesitate to rebuff Bush's credility with this sex scandal you brought up

Because Liberal/Republican are the same thing, they are all beholden to the powers that be and the status quo. They're not actually gonna rock the boat with anything damaging. Tell me what exactly the difference is between republican and democrat at this point?

As far as the website, it'll stay up because if they take it down then there's REALLY something to talk about. Ever heard of Voxfux? Look him up.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Nov 17, 2003, 06:02 AM

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Originally posted by gaborn415
Who keeps Fox CNN et al accountable? I certainly place more trust in the indy's than the giants, they only have to gain by keeping the status quo.

u'm the giant are acountable/liable for what they say to the tune of hundreds of millions of dallors ... IE they have actual hard proof...

as opposed to some make consperacy thery's,the rating of a madman, or some extremist, who bases his story's with NO PROOF. and if he lies through his teeth no one is the wiser. a mad man leading the blind lol

Quote:

Originally posted by gaborn415
I'm afraid you're wrong, the JFK cover-up, Pearl Harbor, the whole 9/11 legend, The woman who filed the sex suit against bush found dead of a gunshot wound to the head, the major media won't touch it, outright lies are not the only fault of the Major Media, obfuscation and simply not airing news is the way the control what the populace thinks. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ar...eam_media.html check it out.

your at it agin with those sites
BTW:

Registrant:
whatreallyhappened.com
P.O. Box 534
Concord, NH 03302-0534
US
999-999-9999

false info... and who know who really run that site?AL QUIDA? who knows! no one
all the other info is sever setup admins for this hosting comany..its a dummie site for drum roll a extremist group/or person(s)/whos acoutable? NO ONE they dont even have real info on thier hosting.... accountablity factor 0%

PoopyTheJ · Nov 17, 2003, 06:09 AM

your at it agin with those sites
BTW:

Registrant:
whatreallyhappened.com
P.O. Box 534
Concord, NH 03302-0534
US
999-999-9999

false info... and who know who really run that site?AL QUIDA? who knows! no one
all the other info is sever setup admins for this hosting comany..its a dummie site for drum roll a extremist group/or person(s)/whos acoutable? NO ONE they dont even have real info on thier hosting.... accountablity factor 0% [/B][/QUOTE]

As far as I know Michael Rivero is the owner of the site, I think it may have been hacked recently actually. He's pretty open about who he is and what he does. At least he always has been in the past. Hmm gonna have to check that out. Thanks Neon.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Nov 17, 2003, 06:18 AM

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As far as I know Michael Rivero is the owner of the site, I think it may have been hacked recently actually. He's pretty open about who he is and what he does. At least he always has been in the past. Hmm gonna have to check that out. Thanks Neon. [/B]

usally a site owner have a litle more detail and well as email adresses/ contact numbers... of couse thats probubly a real P.O. Box but for who knows? thats not ually a good sign. I find this usally with spammers when i back trace or thouse who dont want to be found/have something to hide. I'm only says with out such info who who's who really runs that .com. the wierd thing is there no rules aganst it.

digerati · Nov 17, 2003, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gaborn415
your at it agin with those sites
BTW:

Registrant:
whatreallyhappened.com
P.O. Box 534
Concord, NH 03302-0534
US
999-999-9999

false info... and who know who really run that site?AL QUIDA? who knows! no one
all the other info is sever setup admins for this hosting comany..its a dummie site for drum roll a extremist group/or person(s)/whos acoutable? NO ONE they dont even have real info on thier hosting.... accountablity factor 0%

As far as I know Michael Rivero is the owner of the site, I think it may have been hacked recently actually. He's pretty open about who he is and what he does. At least he always has been in the past. Hmm gonna have to check that out. Thanks Neon. [/B][/QUOTE]

The only mention of the guys name I found was on the index page. Everything else seemed to be quite distant. I also saw some of the things he posted.

CIA Target: Americans
Posted Nov 16, 2003 08:11 PM PST
The CIA can kill anyone it claims is connected to Al Qaeda, no questions asked.

And his source was ABCNEWS.COM
Now if you're saying the Media is lying to us, and this guy is relying on the information, then your statements don't allign.

Also his little comment on it was stretched. An American was killed in a car stuffed with terrorists, I doubt the dude didn't know them and just somehow ended up in that car.

PoopyTheJ · Nov 17, 2003, 07:20 PM

The media is lying to us that doesn't mean that it doesn't ell the truth sometimes, even a blind mole finds a worm once in a while. Plus much of the news is meant for disinformation or obfuscation to keep people from looking at whats actually important. Of course a lot of it is I think trial ballons as well see how stupyfied the poulation is and what they'll accept, they've pretty much realized the US population will accept anything the president says is necassary we're all to afraid and we want our security back, sure take away our freedoms just make me safe, and Buch et al is gladly doing so.

JavaFox · Nov 17, 2003, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gaborn415
they've pretty much realized the US population will accept anything the president says is necassary we're all to afraid and we want our security back, sure take away our freedoms just make me safe, and Buch et al is gladly doing so.

Like what?

p0rChM0nK3y · Nov 17, 2003, 07:48 PM

None of my freedoms have been tampered with, none of my friends either. People who believe this stuff have too much time on their hands, or have a deep seeded hatred for our president and will look for anything to discredit him, true or not.

Rasta Monsta · Nov 17, 2003, 08:13 PM

Thanks to all the looney tunes who posted ludicrous views in this thread. The rest of us like to know who you are so we can keep tabs on your silly asses!

Whew!

rasta

zerodamage · Nov 17, 2003, 08:19 PM

That link is one reason why I will not debate topics like this. People think they are legit. That link is nothing but a Bush hating leftist website.

JavaFox · Nov 17, 2003, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rasta Monsta
Thanks to all the looney tunes who posted ludicrous views in this thread. The rest of us like to know who you are so we can keep tabs on your silly asses!

Whew!

Thank you for your contribution.

Rasta Monsta · Nov 17, 2003, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JavaFox
Thank you for your contribution.

AshFox, somehow I am sensing that you may not be sincere in your expression of gratitude.

rasta

JavaFox · Nov 17, 2003, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rasta Monsta
AshFox, somehow I am sensing that you may not be sincere in your expression of gratitude.

I like how you compare me with Ashcroft on the basis of my views on drug policy, as if my views are somehow out of the mainstream. Remember, legalization efforts are consistenly defeated nationwide. It's you with the fringe beliefs.

That said, I don't mind the nickname at all. It's actually quite funny.

Nov 16, 2003, 06:27 AM	#1
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	the 9/11 legend for those of you who actually buy the government's explanation of 9/11 you might want to check this out. Warning a long read, but if you're brain-dead enough to buy the swill from the Whitehouse and the major media it'd probably do you some good to actually read something. http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KUP310A.html __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Nov 16, 2003, 11:00 PM	#2
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	IMO: it's not worth 1 minute of my time my time to read the 74 pages! considering the soures... anyone before you read just a look at the index of this site shall we..... http://www.globalresearch.ca/ __________________

Nov 16, 2003, 11:45 PM	Thread Starter #4
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	hard to believe that you government is actively pursuing your destruction isn't it. Scary proposition because then of course you'd need to do something about it. __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Nov 16, 2003, 11:58 PM	#6
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	who holds any in regards to the sites responsable for what it written there? were the FACTS? accuntablity? NO ONE so they write what ever they want, no one holds them resopnsable, it's not a creditable source for any information... apparently some people belive everything they read. BTW: i have a bridge in london to sell you... LOL __________________

Nov 16, 2003, 11:59 PM	Thread Starter #7
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	Michael Moore I think is a useful disinformation tool. Good way to inflame the masses and keep the eye's off the real problem. Too bad to see another site buying his garbage. __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Nov 17, 2003, 12:28 AM	Thread Starter #13
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	I'm afraid you're wrong, the JFK cover-up, Pearl Harbor, the whole 9/11 legend, The woman who filed the sex suit against bush found dead of a gunshot wound to the head, the major media won't touch it, outright lies are not the only fault of the Major Media, obfuscation and simply not airing news is the way the control what the populace thinks. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ar...eam_media.html check it out. __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Nov 17, 2003, 12:40 AM	Thread Starter #15
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	supposed to be working back later. __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Nov 17, 2003, 12:42 AM	#16
digerati Everyones life has worth Join Date: May 2003 Location: My Yellow Bug Posts: 3,779 Rep Power: 0	But if you truly claim that website tells stuff the media wont touch then you're mistaken, it has this under "Cover-Up/Deceptions" Jessica Lynch's story is turning 'into a monster' for the Bush administration My mom tried to get me to watch that on tv the other night. Whole show about it.

Nov 17, 2003, 12:50 AM	#17
bird chest DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 454 Rep Power: 0	CNN is liberal so why would they hesitate to rebuff Bush's credility with this sex scandal you brought up

Nov 17, 2003, 05:43 AM	Thread Starter #18
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	CNN is liberal so why would they hesitate to rebuff Bush's credility with this sex scandal you brought up Because Liberal/Republican are the same thing, they are all beholden to the powers that be and the status quo. They're not actually gonna rock the boat with anything damaging. Tell me what exactly the difference is between republican and democrat at this point? As far as the website, it'll stay up because if they take it down then there's REALLY something to talk about. Ever heard of Voxfux? Look him up. __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Nov 17, 2003, 06:09 AM	Thread Starter #20
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	your at it agin with those sites BTW: Registrant: whatreallyhappened.com P.O. Box 534 Concord, NH 03302-0534 US 999-999-9999 false info... and who know who really run that site?AL QUIDA? who knows! no one all the other info is sever setup admins for this hosting comany..its a dummie site for drum roll a extremist group/or person(s)/whos acoutable? NO ONE they dont even have real info on thier hosting.... accountablity factor 0% [/B][/QUOTE] As far as I know Michael Rivero is the owner of the site, I think it may have been hacked recently actually. He's pretty open about who he is and what he does. At least he always has been in the past. Hmm gonna have to check that out. Thanks Neon. __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Nov 17, 2003, 07:20 PM	Thread Starter #23
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	The media is lying to us that doesn't mean that it doesn't ell the truth sometimes, even a blind mole finds a worm once in a while. Plus much of the news is meant for disinformation or obfuscation to keep people from looking at whats actually important. Of course a lot of it is I think trial ballons as well see how stupyfied the poulation is and what they'll accept, they've pretty much realized the US population will accept anything the president says is necassary we're all to afraid and we want our security back, sure take away our freedoms just make me safe, and Buch et al is gladly doing so. __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Nov 17, 2003, 07:48 PM	#25
p0rChM0nK3y DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 179 Rep Power: 0	None of my freedoms have been tampered with, none of my friends either. People who believe this stuff have too much time on their hands, or have a deep seeded hatred for our president and will look for anything to discredit him, true or not. __________________ Intel Pentium 4c 2.6 @ 3.1ghz (27c idle, 34c load) Asus P4P800 Corsair XMS 2x512mb DDR400 Maxtor MaXline III 250gb SATA150 Plextor DVD-RW PX-716A Samsung Syncmaster 17" Antec Sonata II w/ Antec SmartPower 2.0 Windows XP Pro

Nov 17, 2003, 08:19 PM	#27
zerodamage HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 3,478 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	That link is one reason why I will not debate topics like this. People think they are legit. That link is nothing but a Bush hating leftist website.