Davidgt

It is about to finish up. I think so far prez bush has gave an asweome speech. The state of the union is doing great! He is right goverment controled health care is bad! The only thing I disagree on is the war on drugs..... wasteful. So vote on the poll

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Vampyromaniac

Lol, what happened to your spelling?




...I did not see the speech

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Davidgt

my spelling sucks so............?

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HsuGotaQ

Since I can't vote down south, I don't see why I should see this. I've got enough trouble just thinking about Paul Martin up here in CanuckLand.

Davidgt

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...threadid=35892 beat ya

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Vampyromaniac

I never noticed you spell poorly before

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zerodamage

I love the shots of Hillary Clinton. The Hag just looks like she is going to puke sitting there. Too bad she can't just hide her hatred for Bush for the one hour and show some respect. She's been busted on this before right after 9-11 during the big speach then. She is doing it again.
How did she get voted as a Senator again?

Dyre Straits

Bush will be getting my vote come November.

I thought the speech was excellent and very well presented.

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zerodamage

Threads merged together and moved into Political forums.

HsuGotaQ

Not bad ATM. I was expecting to see this posted being moved sooner to the Flame WarZone.

Davidgt

He is getin my vote in november aswell!

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digerati

While a lot of it seemed good he had a few statements in there that meant nothing, a statement with no plan. If I get the right to vote by election time I'll vote for him, because as far as I can see the only better candidate than him for election is me lol or Colon Powell but he's not running.

digitalwanderer

I turned it on for 3 minutes and had to turn it off and take some heart meds....'nuf said.

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mainman

Bush ho....?

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drakesteakn

the guy is a joke, he says this and he says that.he is just looking out for himself. i know his family well and he is a butt hole.

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BWX

Ha- he is still better than any of the crazy Dems, lol - did you see Dean earlier? He looked like he was going to turn into the Hulk!
At least Bush has some heart.
Yeah, it bugs me he has a speach impediment, but that doesn't mean he is unintelligent.

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The_Neon_Cowboy

Anyways for those who missed it... you can read more here

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0040120-7.html


well

I started about 3 minutes into his speach. If I hadn't token the extra time to spell check and grab screenshots of the speech and photo edit chop and resize them to look best with the text, and then had my girlfriend proof read before I finally posted it. Mine would have been first oh well life happens lol I'll change the theme of my discussion and post again sometime later... no biggie

going back to driver moding

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drakesteakn

this is true, bush is better than the "crazy Dems". but i think he can do better. he needs to get better help from his staff. Cuz if he don't he won't be there another 4 years. I just don't like him personally thats all.

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Falstaff

This speech galavanized my feelings about what Pres. Bush is doing for our country, and for the world, say what one will, but I will vote for him again. He will run against Carey and he will win.
Just as I was moved spirtually by Tony Blair so to was I moved by George Bush. Both spritual men, history will judge them for their accomplishments and their faliures. As for me, a veteran who has tasted battle and enjoyed the embrace of peace, however fleeting. I believe in what G. Bush is doing, and I can say with the utmost enthusiam that America is prospering under his administration. We cannot please them all nor can we feed them all, but we will find a way one day. Pres. Bush moved me with the remark about the girl who wrote the letter to the brave men and women in IRAQ, I have been there and it brought a tear to my eye, and now my own brother faces the same foe now, and he serves honorably and loyally the president that leads our nation forward.
Pres. Kennedy once said, "ask not what America can do for you, but what you can do for America, that message is not lost on bi- partisen squabbles. Men and Women of the world have come to our shores to serve our country and enrich our country in bad times and good times, and now they all serve on the battlefront, and they have not lost their hope, nor have they given up.
The American peoplelisten every year…to hear from their president about the state of their union. They want to know about the priorities he's going to focus on and to hear about the direction of the country and what we've accomplished. we know that this is an election year, but I think they also understand where we are in the process. Democrats still have a lot of problems, but they wanted to hear from their president.
George W. Bush is the 43rd President of the United States. He was sworn into office January 20, 2001, after which he outlined sweeping proposals to reform America's public schools, transform our national defense, provide tax relief, modernize Social Security and Medicare, and encourage faith-based and community organizations to work with government to help Americans in need. President Bush served for six years as the 46th Governor of the State of Texas, where he had a reputation as a fair and compassionate conservative who shaped public policy based on the principles of limited government, personal responsibility, strong families, and local control.
Since taking office, President Bush has signed into law initiatives to improve public schools by raising standards, requiring accountability, and strengthening local control. He has signed tax relief that provided rebate checks and lower tax rates for everyone who pays income taxes in America. He increased pay and benefits for America's military and is working to save and strengthen Social Security and Medicare. He is also committed to an era of responsibility era in America, and has called on all Americans to be "citizens, not spectators; citizens, not subjects; responsible citizens building communities of service and a Nation of character."
President Bush declared war against terror and has made victory in the war on terrorism and the advance of human freedom the priorities of his Administration. Already, the United States military and a mighty coalition of nations have liberated the people of Afghanistan from the Taliban regime and denied al Qaeda its safe haven. Thousands of terrorists have been killed and operations have been disrupted in many countries around the world. In the President's words, "our Nation - this generation - will lift a dark threat of violence from our people and our future. We will rally the world to this cause by our efforts, by our courage. We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail."
I remember what Martin Luther Kings said: Dr. King understood that faith is power greater than all others. That's what he knew. It's an important lesson for us to remember here in America, that God's word can humble the mighty, can lift up the meek, and can bring comfort and strength to all who yearn for justice and freedom. People who are involved with public policy must not fear that philosophy as we all work together to save lives.
The president addressed the issue of getting reformed criminals back into society and stress any faith based initiatives that might accelerate that process, I for one was overjoyed.
I think of Francis Scott Key and remember the poem that he wrote as the British bombarded Fort McHenry in 1814, doubts were expressed and patiotism was the last thing he thought when he saw it but it waved proudly and still does now in my own heart.
Waiting in the predawn darkness, Key waited for the sight that would end his anxiety; the joyous sight of Gen. Armisteads great flag blowing in the breeze. When at last daylight came, the flag was still there! Yes the great flag of our nation, the symbol of the struggle for Americans everywhere that placed themselves against their gun butts and took aim across the wet grass near the Cheasepeake Bay. From that time until now, our nation has been challenged but one theme remains clear to me and all loyal Americans. The struggle against tyranny goes beyond our shores, beyond the tangible and tactile threads of our own intelligence, and enemy awaits us all, shall we put our hands in the sand, I hope not, I get a tear in my eye whenever I hear the the following song;

Oh, say can you see by the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars thru the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner! Oh long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more!
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

I wave my flag for Peace, for Libery and Freedom and Justice for all...
God Bless George Bush and Tony Blair, men of purpose and men of convicition

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Dyre Straits

Very well written, Jeff. I, for one, appreciate the time you took to write this.

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BluntmaN

Nicely said Jeff but now I must protest against that patriotic emotional rant.

As I have posted b4 congratulations on the American army for fighting in Iraq to provide the American public with cheap gas and the American companies with greater profit margins. I dont mean to insult your army but the people who led you there misguided you and made you fight an unnecessary war.

During which time as himself has said in an interview b4 his election he was quite eager to sign all the death penalties that passed through his office without looking at them. (sorry no sources the interview is too old) He is a well known underachiever since all the companies he controled went either bust or were sold coz of economic problems.

He also passed a massive tax cut that 100 economists (10+ had been awarded with a Nobel prize) stated was targeted towards the richest industries with no positive results in unemployment the reason it was aprooved in the first place.

But have done nothing to stop terrorists from being trained in Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda has not stoped its operations remember the bombing in Bhali?

When Americans start voting again they ll become citizens until then each and every one who doesnt vote is IMO a bovine.

What???? Do you also believe in creationism? Well if you are right and God really runs around the planet affecting our lifes then I have a prayer that hasnt been answered. My only request to God is that America the mighty is humbled and Greece the meek is lifted. But you see God doesnt answer to non American prayers

The president is so keen in putting drug offenders in jail, catching 16 yo gang members and locking them away and ordering folks to be executed without looking for a final time at their case (while in the same time criminals such as Martha Stuard and Dick Cheyney are left free to steal investor's money) that he misses the bigger picture, imprisoment is not the answer to crime. Education, opportunities, social reforms are the answers to crime. And secondly he mentioned faith based initiatives so many times for an important reason he wants the faiths to help him get re-elected he might be a god fearing texan but in the end of the day all he wants is another 4 years on the throne.

As for the poem isn't it the American anthem?

God help us all with leaders like those. Tony in case you dont know (of course you dont) not only lied to the British public in the issues of the Iraq war but is now also trying to cut poor people from further education in a very elegant manner. He is no angel although he started quite well. This is another time that the saying "absolute power corrupts absolutely" shines true. Btw he is going to lose the next elections or his party will make him step down before that.

I dont mean to insult anyone with what I just wrote but I am a die hard anti-american for what US has done to my country and I seize every opportunity to spew my poison. As for whos going to win the elections, I hope Bush does so I can flame him even more. In the bottom line its your country do whatever you want with it I dont really care.

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zerodamage

While you can hate America, Bush, Blair and whoever else. I ask that you post links to back up your claims. Bush never once said he just signed death warrants. Please post facts and then back them up with links.

Dyre Straits

I don't have time right now to address everything (have to leave for work) but let me just address the 'cheap gas' claim:

We are presently paying MORE for gas than I ever remember paying. I'm paying close to $1.50 US for regular gas here. The war in Iraq is NOT about oil! (Man, that tune is soooo old!)

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BluntmaN

Amnesty International


The Texas Clemency Memos

Washington Post

Bush's Death Watch


Ok I cannot find him admiting that he didnt study the cases but I can still find evidence that he didnt. More links will be available if you need them.

EDIT One more link.

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BluntmaN

It is about oil it has always been about oil the war is not over yet you ll rip the rewards once the situation stabilizes and even if you dont gain that doesnt mean that the oil companies havent inceased their profit margins.

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zerodamage

You actually did not find anything that states he didn't review the case. What you found are bias websites and an opinion piece referencing another bias opinion. This has been tried and tossed a long while ago.

The oil thing, old news. Tried and tired and died. Most know that is not the reason. Just conspiracy theorists wetdream material.

BluntmaN

What I found is records from real journalists that disagree with the death penalty clearly prooving that Bush didnt take clemency petitions seriously as his duty was. I also found that the SOB executed more people under his watch than any other governor before him.

If the oil thing is a hoax then WHY did you go to war? WMD? Where the f@ck are they? Freeing the Iraqi people? How much did that cost you? And how are you forgeting Panama and Bolivia? Places decimated by American policies. Are you forgeting you are in bed with China the biggest oppressive regime today? Are you saying that you ll liberate the Chinese from their oppressors? How about the Kurds in Turkey or the Chechens in Russia come on you are not the red bloody cross you had something to gain from Iraq now what was it?

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krazy1

How the hell do you get your gas so cheap?? Man I am paying $1.75!! Oh well...heheh I am not complaining... everything has to go up in cost sometime.... still wish it was $.50/gall like it was when I was a kid....

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zerodamage

So what you are telling me is that because they're opinion is that they do not like Bush and are against the Death Penalty so you come to the conclusion that Bush didn't take the petitions seriously?
I really do not see any sense in me trying to debate this because you hate the guy with a passion and no amount of factual information will convince you of anything.

Your links... like news.amnesty.org is far from being an unbias source. Bush Bashing websites with misquotes and lies from the left are a dime a dozen. I do not take them seriously.


As for your WMD comlaint. If you think Bush is a liar, then I guess 99% of the world are also liars. Or did they not believe the same thing? The UN makes up the worlds nations (or most of them) right? Didn't they all approve of the many resolutions against Iraq and his WMD programs? Hmmm... interesting indeed. We are in bed with China? That is a new one. I've heard that Clinton was in bed with China giving them Nuclear secrets for votes, and this came from the Right.

You really need to let go of the hatred for Bush and objectively review the facts. I do not approve of everything he has done. Yet I do not blindingly hate the man or believe in everything and defend everything he has done. The sites you used are crap, plain and simple and if you believe the crap, then they will feed you their crap and make you angry (the left after all feed on emotion) and you will be hooked.

bluelight

Why should Amnesty international be unbiased?

Give me one good reason why an organisation that surveys torture and illegal imprisonement be unbiased?

Bluelight