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Old Apr 21, 2004, 02:19 PM   #31
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Oh please. Like many heterosexual marraiges provide a normal enviornment, I know my parents sure as hell didn't provide me with a normal enviornment.
I am talking about the future, not the past. Children deserve an enviornment where they are not subject to the sexual dynamics of a homosexual relationship. And enviornment free from sexual abuse and identity crisis, an enviornment that is not populated with individuals in a flux about their sexual identity or the predatory nature of dysfunctional and sexually and emotionally undeveloped people. Homosexuality is a selfish, and self serving and destructive desire, it is dangerous and primal. We are not beasts, though the beast remains in all of us. I believe that because of the marriage of chromosomes within our bodies that controls both male and female hormones, growth and developementj, that all the extremes or exceptions in orientation and identity are true, but........for the sake of the children, heterosexually grounded relationships, with a strong spiritual foundation, respecting of all people, and tempered with caution and awareness, can foster a family of children that will grow into balanced and informed adults. I cannot deny that homosexuals exist, I served in the military, which believe it or not is an oasis for homosexuals that enjoy remaining in the closet. No I know that the good lord gave us the ingrediants to become men and women and sometime the recipe of cosmic dust that makes us what we are, can run the full spectrum of human developement. Knowing that and dealing with the real central issue is the best way to handle it.
George Bush is reinforcing the prinicipals that our country was built on, he is seperating the hetero from the homo to show respect to the institution of marriage. Heterosexual unions are more than just the frequent intercourse and conception. Man and woman cannot remain physically engaged, the flesh is weak, the penis and the vagina are reproductive organs designed for procreation, creating families. Man and woman, if they create a child, have an obligation to see that their proginy grow and improve and survive and prosper in this world. I say reinforce the sanctity of the hetero union. The homosexual union for any reason that can be applied in any circumstance, is an arrangement to meet the desires of the partners involved and nothing more. It is at best, merely a contract between two people to fulfill each others primal desire for anal intercourse, oral sex and a lifestyle that allows the freedom for each to pursue their own interestes regardless of how repugnant society may see it.
The gay agenda is loud, it is proud and they wave their rainbow flag, but in the vast landscape of real issues that our world reveals, it is rather small in importance. I personally think that homosexuals should keep their mouths shut, pursue their own lives and stay out of politics. I am tired of Homosexual politics, the world is full of irony and pathos and tragedy, why shouldnt the gay people get their share.......George Bush is right, protect the Heterosexual union of man and woman, and stand tall for the values that promote a future for our America, not the self centered and self indulgent buggery of homosexuals.
Homosexual issues are tiresome, over analyzed (no pun intended) and no more worthy of being addressed than any other, so please, but the rainbow flags away...LOL
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Old Apr 21, 2004, 07:04 PM   #32
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I wasn't aware homosexuals were drug addicted gay bashing nigger hating shovenistic pigs who tried to force religious beliefs upon me. And that's just a starting point =P
No not all gays are but I am saying what if somone had to dads like yours. But that is kinda a bad example because your dad could not have adopted so unless one was bisexual then it really is not going to happen.
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Old Apr 21, 2004, 08:09 PM   #33
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I am talking about the future, not the past. Children deserve an enviornment where they are not subject to the sexual dynamics of a homosexual relationship. And enviornment free from sexual abuse and identity crisis, an enviornment that is not populated with individuals in a flux about their sexual identity or the predatory nature of dysfunctional and sexually and emotionally undeveloped people. Homosexuality is a selfish, and self serving and destructive desire, it is dangerous and primal. We are not beasts, though the beast remains in all of us. I believe that because of the marriage of chromosomes within our bodies that controls both male and female hormones, growth and developementj, that all the extremes or exceptions in orientation and identity are true, but........for the sake of the children, heterosexually grounded relationships, with a strong spiritual foundation, respecting of all people, and tempered with caution and awareness, can foster a family of children that will grow into balanced and informed adults. I cannot deny that homosexuals exist, I served in the military, which believe it or not is an oasis for homosexuals that enjoy remaining in the closet. No I know that the good lord gave us the ingrediants to become men and women and sometime the recipe of cosmic dust that makes us what we are, can run the full spectrum of human developement. Knowing that and dealing with the real central issue is the best way to handle it.
George Bush is reinforcing the prinicipals that our country was built on, he is seperating the hetero from the homo to show respect to the institution of marriage. Heterosexual unions are more than just the frequent intercourse and conception. Man and woman cannot remain physically engaged, the flesh is weak, the penis and the vagina are reproductive organs designed for procreation, creating families. Man and woman, if they create a child, have an obligation to see that their proginy grow and improve and survive and prosper in this world. I say reinforce the sanctity of the hetero union. The homosexual union for any reason that can be applied in any circumstance, is an arrangement to meet the desires of the partners involved and nothing more. It is at best, merely a contract between two people to fulfill each others primal desire for anal intercourse, oral sex and a lifestyle that allows the freedom for each to pursue their own interestes regardless of how repugnant society may see it.
The gay agenda is loud, it is proud and they wave their rainbow flag, but in the vast landscape of real issues that our world reveals, it is rather small in importance. I personally think that homosexuals should keep their mouths shut, pursue their own lives and stay out of politics. I am tired of Homosexual politics, the world is full of irony and pathos and tragedy, why shouldnt the gay people get their share.......George Bush is right, protect the Heterosexual union of man and woman, and stand tall for the values that promote a future for our America, not the self centered and self indulgent buggery of homosexuals.
Homosexual issues are tiresome, over analyzed (no pun intended) and no more worthy of being addressed than any other, so please, but the rainbow flags away...LOL
It's not like heterosexuals aren't selfish in their sexual desires. And it's not like they will for sure sexually abuse the child. I've seen homosexuals be good parents before, not saying that they were better or equal to heterosexual parents, but considering what's happening to children across the nation with heterosexual parents and considering most gays come from heterosexual parents, I don't see enough arguement to say it's unhealthy or that they'll turn out screwed up. Right now my current family, my moms the man and her bf's the bitch. Total role reversal, doesn't bother me one bit =P
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Old Apr 22, 2004, 05:30 AM   #34
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Right now my current family, my moms the man and her bf's the bitch. Total role reversal, doesn't bother me one bit =P
That has nothing to do with anything
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Old Apr 22, 2004, 05:38 AM   #35
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That has nothing to do with anything
But I get the expression "You can't have a guy pretending or acting like a girl! It's not the same!" Well I've got that, and it's heterosexual, so I don't see a problem.
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Old Apr 22, 2004, 08:06 PM   #36
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But I get the expression "You can't have a guy pretending or acting like a girl! It's not the same!" Well I've got that, and it's heterosexual, so I don't see a problem.
First off you are old enough so that it really has no effect and it really makes no difference since you are inferring that their are roles that men and women must fulfill. What is this father role your mom takes in your life??? And what is the mother role her boyfriend takes??? The problem with homosexual parents is just simply because they are of the same sex it just messes with kids. Don't believe me go research it cause I find no need to source it since it is pretty apparent. Lets just look at freudian psychology for a second. It says that a child at a young age loves the parent of the opposite sex not in a parent way and is angry with the parent of the same sex. Well what if both parents are of the same sex that messes with kids. I am not saying it turns kids gay it just is not desirable to a kids mental health.
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Old Apr 22, 2004, 08:16 PM   #37
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First off you are old enough so that it really has no effect and it really makes no difference since you are inferring that their are roles that men and women must fulfill. What is this father role your mom takes in your life??? And what is the mother role her boyfriend takes??? The problem with homosexual parents is just simply because they are of the same sex it just messes with kids. Don't believe me go research it cause I find no need to source it since it is pretty apparent. Lets just look at freudian psychology for a second. It says that a child at a young age loves the parent of the opposite sex not in a parent way and is angry with the parent of the same sex. Well what if both parents are of the same sex that messes with kids. I am not saying it turns kids gay it just is not desirable to a kids mental health.
Well my mom tells her boyfriend what to do, when to do it, she works and sometimes he works and sometimes he just drives all over enjoying his time. He's just the bitch lol

But using freudian psychology how is it that most people who turn out gay come from straight parents?
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Old Apr 23, 2004, 07:44 PM   #38
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Well my mom tells her boyfriend what to do, when to do it, she works and sometimes he works and sometimes he just drives all over enjoying his time. He's just the bitch lol

But using freudian psychology how is it that most people who turn out gay come from straight parents?
Well first they have to identify the the cause of homosexuality but according to freud these people are still caught up in the anal stage. They derive pleasure from the butt and are stuck in this stage where as most of us move on. The anal stage is accociated with the age where kids potty training. Being straight parents I do not feel has anything to do with it. Like I said before I do not feel gay parents will produce gay kids. But more likley will produce kids that hate gays because their child hood may have been more difficult then other kids childhoods.
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Well first they have to identify the the cause of homosexuality but according to freud these people are still caught up in the anal stage. They derive pleasure from the butt and are stuck in this stage where as most of us move on.
What about the ones that love to do the oral part, ya know like Mr Microphone?
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Better yet, what about the lesbian part?
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Old Apr 25, 2004, 04:26 AM   #41
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Better yet, what about the lesbian part?
Not all lesbians but a lot I feel do it out of pressure because men like women on women action so much. And guys who like it in the mouth are stuck in the oral stage the time associated with teathing.
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