Luck

http://cnn.aimtoday.cnn.com/news/sto...20040417MAD103


It's about time.

bluelight

Yes it is a very good thing.

Bluelight

Luck

We don't need to be there if this is going to be costing us lives just to 'liberate' the people of Iraq.

The_Neon_Cowboy

Yes cower and bow before terrorism government of Spain,

So terrorists have learned they can make big changes by killing masses of people get “their” candidates elected to do the things they want done. I’ve lost any respect for the Spanish government. It’s a sad day in history when someone lets the terrorists win and get what they want.

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”





Just a brain fart but...purely hypothetical …conspiracy theory

Who’s to stop say a terrorist group finds a coming close but failing candidate and Says... Hey, we can get you elected you just must promise to pull troops from Iraq. With out with out knowledge of the events (bombing) to take place right before the election so there would be no time for a political response. Their hand picked candidate then fulfills his side of the bargain and with deals troops from Iraq... and the terrorists dance happy in the streets… the end

Luck

It isn't as if the Spanish are there because the Iraqis have some way affected them. Yes, the bombing did, but they've been there way before.

They shouldn't have been there to begin with, no one should.

No one's lives should be spared to support someone else.

bluelight

No they have just stopped bowing to the empire.

Thats all.

You dont command Spain and now they have told you soo.

Bluelight

bluelight

Another thing...the conspiracy you suggest...is ...well...amusing.

Very amusing...




Bluelight

bird chest

Luck are you socialist? Or left wing?

I just think once you have started a fight you need too finish it. Otherwise the problem will follow you around. In whatever form. Maybe this pulling of the troops will lead to a break down in US spanish relations(I do not think this is going to happen I am just saying what if). So luck you really do not feel at anytime it is good to sacrifice for others. On top of that I dunno about spain but in the US you join the military cause you want to (except in time of a draft) and all the men in Iraq have chosen to be their.

digerati

I showed my friend this page and he said

"We try not to command those that lose their backbones to terrorists."

He didn't want to make an account so I posted for him, don't think this is my opinion, just doing this as a favor to him.

bluelight

Well he will have to define what he is actually wants to say.

If not i will take the sparse information im getting about his ideas as a disrespect for a democratic process of another nation.Wouldnt surprise me though since i have seen republicans claim that the current hearings with the Bush government is a complott by the Democrats and not part of a democratic procedure.

Spains population was in FAVOUR OF a coalition under the UN.

They were to 90 percent AGAINST a coalition UNDER Usa.

The previoius righwing government of Spain IGNORED this.

That is why they lost the elections.

When the leftwing government got into place they declared:
WE WILL TAKE PART OF A UN LED COALITION....a multilateral solution as opposed to what is happening now.

The US IGNORED this once again.


Followingly Spain took its troops home.

All nations should do so and force Usa to start acting mutilaterally.

Furthermore the hints that Spains government is HELPNG teroorists is nothing but laughable,

The have so far arrested bucketloads of them.

Furthermore....They as opposed to you have been having terror issues for ages which they have struggled hard to solve.

Like with the conflict in Northern Irland...Usa had no problem with this up until 9/11 when all of a sudden it became impossible for US financiers to send money to the IRA.


You want a reasonable coalition?

Ask for it at thge appropriate place.

You will most likely be set to lead it...as you were in Gulf War 1.

You will also most likely have muslim troops.

Like you had in Gulf War 1.

You will have less dead Americans and more dead Swedes Germans Pakistanis etc etc etc bla bla bla..

Like you had in Gulf war 1.

But..that will not happen since the defined agenda of this government is to lead the world unilaterally.(read the foreign politics declaration written to the congress when this government got into place)

You should ask yourself...why your government wants thing to be this way.

On top of it....last time when the coalition was based on the UN 80 -90 percent of the whole affair WAS PAID BY NATIONS OUTSIDE USA:

Now..what is it that your current governmen wants so much that they arecprepared to both pay with more lives...and most of the money?


FInally.

All of this will be irrelevant when Kerry gets into office.Which he will.






Bluelight

Luck

I'm neither.

Yes, if you start something, you should finish it..if it's logical.

Starting the war in Nam' wasn't logical, and they kept sending in more Americans to get killed when they should have pulled out awhile ago.

Common sense wins over dignity.

If it breaks down with the Spanish (US relations) it will happen with France, the UK, etc. Europe isn't happy with our actions, they'd be in more favor of Spain than America (I think).

Lastly, you sacrifice your life for your country, not for the will of other's countries.

Just like I wouldn't fight a civil war for Africa or other countries. You live for your country, you die for your country, not for others. This is what people are forgetting. They keep saying "Support your troops, they're fighting for you" which is incorrect. They're fighting for both Israel and Iraq.

People usually join the services for benifits, college tuition, and whathaveyou.

The_Neon_Cowboy

No they said more a lot the lines you bomb us we run like scared little boy and do what ever u want. That terrorism’s tactics are working and that they should continue do mass killings to get what they want. Because they are so affective effective, just look at Spain. It sent a clear message to terrorist groups around the world terrorism works and is an affect tool to affect change that they want.

Instead of sending the message that it doesn’t work and that it works ageist their favor to do those horrific acts. If I were the leader of Spain I would have had the foresight and back bone to make change and to even commit more troops. Send the message to bomb us is against your interests. They got exactly what they wanted…

Like I said the terrorists are very happy Spain wit drew their troops. And they will be sure to kill hundreds more next time they want something else. With the money back guarantee that Spain will bend to their will. Heck the terrorist the even got their canadate elected. You can expect to see more bombings in other countries come election time.

Thanks a lot Spain for helping terrorism.



Like I said very hypothetical but absolutely possible…


I don't think the USA would turn down any free hand outs/assistance in IRAQ but not $$$ contracts ad money that this is also based on; People that had a part in this should be the one to enjoy the soils of war. Other countries do not deserve ever getting any contacts from Iraq’s rebuilding. For example France and Russia who’s interests were oil and $$$ getting huge kickbacks abusing the food for oil program. Not to mention the “illegal” contracts etc… they both had with IRAQ.

The reason people when the UN in there is to open the door for this $$$ contracts $$$ no other reason they could care less for the Iraq or its people.


Kerry is 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times wosre then bush
If kerry wins I may seriously consider leaveing the country. The guy is two faced...

He is known as the great flip flopper...
http://www.flipflopper.com/Flipflops.asp

he takes both sides on all issues and tere is alot more then that is listed there.

he is for it but agesnt it? WTF? get some backbone kerry..
take a stance actuall stace on something lol
............

I may not like bush but i think kerry truely sucks if i had to chose i'd chose bush over kerry any day of the week.

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bluelight

Are you telling me that the US companys that currently are in Iraq are there as charity?


Another thing....Your signature image is making resemblances bewtween Been ladde, North Koreas dictator...etc etc..and Kerry.

Is that normal Republican rethoric?



Im just curious.


I seem to remember a discussion about the issue and there were divided opinions about that.




Bluelight

bird chest

The US has tried several times to get the UN to help in the rebuilding. In fact they did come for a short while and left after one bomb. The world can whine about how the US is putting Iraq back together but until they helpout they need to keep their mouths closed.