bluelight

The image below was posted b a supporter of the republican government.

Im just curious about one thing...

What does the image say to those here that are republicans?

What does it mean?

The_Neon_Cowboy

To me?

If he was in office right now insted of bush... Those people would be much happeir and much better off. The taliban would be in aganistan and al-quida in full swing. Iraq would be under saddams dictation etc...

Most kerrys idea's/ the ones that i have herd don't work or are very bad ideas...
here is the million dallor question for kerry...

If he for it or agenst it? ....with out being on both sides? - nope

lines are black and white, I'm sorry you can't drive down the middle all your life he's gonna have to sway one way or the other

alot of stuff he's promiseing is allready stuff that projected for eample with an ecconomic recovery
the us will gain about 4 million jobs

kerry goes I promise to create 4 million jobs... well duh!

market analist say thats a given no matter who is presideant when the market has some recovery.
It was said by one analist "he's predicting the sun will rise tomarrow" its such a sure thing... so basically hes does nothing and it still happens so how can he say it will be due to him?


BTW:

as for making one of bush look for one of the shots were he's waveing going to the hela copter. useally looks like he's doing the "hail hitler" that was done by the nazis


don't mis understand my dislike of kerry with likeing of bush. beccouse I don't like any of our options
at this point I don't think it matters bush or kerry were still screwed. But I chose the lesser of both evils

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bluelight

Well its just that i find the way he is portrayed a bit over the top.
I dont think that Bush is evil even though i dislike his politcs very much ...i mean he is far from that so i dont understand why Kerry is put beside Bin Ladin or Saddam Hussein cause he is no way near any of those?

Even if the "actual message of the image is to say "It is good for dictators if Kerry wins" it also says that Kerry is an equal to them by the way the image is done.

Zerodamage claimed earlier that only leftwing people used this type of images to promote their wiews.

I said ...no this is not the case.Both sides do.

I was right.

Both sides do.

Which leaves us with the fact that being Left ..or right...doesnt automatically make you a more moral..civilised person in arguments.

Peronally i can take the image for what it is but the more of this type of argumenting we get from both sides the less reall issues we will have.

End of rant..

Bluey

End of rant..

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Sourcer_2002

To me that is just flat stupid.

zerodamage

Bluelight, there is NO one on Bush's staff condoning such an image. There are major extremes on both side of the political spectrum. One on the extreme right did that. That is NOT mainstream conservatism in that image. That type of image is more typical of the left. Moveon.org is prime example of that. The image of him though is quite humerous because Kerry is the most bland, dry candidate since Gore. That picture of him is so unlike hiim in reality.

bluelight

What is stupid?

bluelight

Are you saying this is not typic for mainstream right but that IT IS typic for mainstream left?!Or are you saying it is typic for the extremes of both sides to use imagery like this?

Bluelight

digerati

I say it's more typical of left. But the right retaliates the same way. I remember the protestors with signs that showed Bush as Hitler.

bluelight

No it is not more typical for the left.

Im sorry you are wrong.

It is equally typical for hatemongers and ignorants on both sides.

Creating stuff like this has nothing to do with politics..left or right..

It is nothing but a way of exposing hate withing the persons that create these type of argumentation.

And...hate ..is not an argument unless you are in favour of hate itself.

Bluelight

HawK

eh dunno.. who's the guy on the rightside of the picture ???

bluelight

The one that will take over after Caesar.

Bluelight

digerati

And cause the empire to crumble?

bluelight

No hardly although this is what the neoconservatives have been trumpeting now for a couple of years.

To bad for them it is an argument that isnt valid and that it doesnt work longer than the time it takes for people to realise that they so far have only managed to screw things up further more than they were before they started their concert.

No the world will not crumble with Kerry.

Usa will continue to be the biggest "mf´s" for yet a long time although with Kerry they might even get som credit from the world for being it.

Bluelight

bird chest

I have to agree with bluelight he is right on. During this particular election there may be more hate for Bush however. But I do not feel one side is less guilty of this then the other.

Falstaff

I believe it implys that if your a meglomaniac or despot you would prefer Kerry, as his war hero facade is wearing off, people are seeing the truth, he wont last long and Bush will be reelected

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zerodamage

Both sides do it but it is more typical of the left. Let me give you an example. 2002 Senate elections. There was a flash ad on the DNC website and it showed Bush pushing an old lady in a wheel chair down some stairs. And then laughing about it. I rarely see this on the right. It does happen but not often. Usually some jackass that doesn't represent the right.

bluelight

Sorry your both wrong.

First:
Bush will not be president after the next election.The only way hre will still be in office after the election is by declaring some kond of emergency state which i hardly believe he has the intentions to do.

Second:

Zerodamage´s implication that the issue spoken of is more common among leftwing people than among rightwing people actually means that rightwing people genetically are different (and in this case better human beings) than leftwing people.

Well...and you all know what my wiew on such an assumption would be.

Bluelight

bluelight

Another thing....Who does Khadaffi prefer these days?


Bluelight

digerati

I have seen more of these stunts from the far left. That's just what I have seen, and you cannot tell me I'm wrong. And until I see as much from the right as from the left I will keep that opinion until I see otherwise. This doesn't make them better human beings, just means they have different tactics.

Guidoo

Well imho....they are equally guilty (right and left). To many people the right is more guilty due to it's constant attacks on clinton during his 8 years in office....there were even those who called him a baby killer,
compared him to Hitler and likes due to his attacks in the mid-east against suspected terrorist and weapons facilities. These character attacks are very fresh in many peoples minds. But now the shoe is on the other foot so to speak and bush is now the target of character assasination. So it works both ways. Both extremes employ the same basic tactics. Partial truths and character assasination.

Guido

bluelight

Yes of course you have seen more of them.


But the reason is not that there are more.

The reason is that you not leftwing and therefore your peception does not react the same way on this type of things when they come from a rightwing perspective.

I could say the same as you and ZeroD from my wiewpoint but it wouldnt be true.

Bluelight

digerati

No I think what happened is I've only been interested in politics and paying attention the last few years or so. This with Bush in office has put a lot of uglyness forth from the far left. So I've seen more from the far left, if Kerry were to win, I'm sure I'd see a lot of stuff from the right.

ronnn

To me a Canadian, John Kerry looks a whole lot more approachable than George Bush. That said, pick your own leader, we pick ours.