Who will/would you vote for US president?

The_Neon_Cowboy · May 16, 2004, 11:26 AM

Who will/would you vote for US president?

This is also open to out of country people..
Please be honest and chose the appropriate boxes...

I just want to see what the general opinion is among DH members (the members inside and the USA and those outside...)

Thanks

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BWX · May 16, 2004, 11:52 AM

Kerry and Nader are idiots- so.....

MythicaL · May 16, 2004, 12:42 PM

Pffttt... they all suck!

bird chest · May 17, 2004, 01:59 AM

If Kerry was coherent at all maybe but since he makes no stances I will not vote for him.

Guidoo · May 17, 2004, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bird chest
If Kerry was coherent at all maybe but since he makes no stances I will not vote for him.

I'm curious as to how you qualify your statement " he makes no stances at all" ?? Have you listened to a speech ( not a snippet from tv news) ? or have you looked at his website ??

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/

guido

Jjohnson........couldnt agree more....just some suck more than others...

zerodamage · May 17, 2004, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Guidoo
I'm curious as to how you qualify your statement " he makes no stances at all" ??

Probably from the fact that Kerry changes his stance on everything every couple of days. "I own an SUV" he says in front of the Car Manufacturers. "I do not own one, my family owns an SUV" he says in front of the environmentalists. He's done this on EVERY issue which is why he will lose.

Guidoo · May 17, 2004, 02:55 AM

Zero.....

Do you truly believe that politicians don't all make some kind of changes to suit the audience of the
moment ?

Guido

mainman · May 17, 2004, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zerodamage
Probably from the fact that Kerry changes his stance on everything every couple of days. "I own an SUV" he says in front of the Car Manufacturers. "I do not own one, my family owns an SUV" he says in front of the environmentalists. He's done this on EVERY issue which is why he will lose.

Meaning Bush will win...may God help us all....

~~BMG_Cya=-~~ · May 17, 2004, 05:28 AM

Bush. I really believe he has tried to do the right, morally correct things, but has had everyone and
everything go against him. The knee-jerk liberal biased media doesn't and hasn't helped as usual.
Most of the media these days are made up of n'er do-wells, people who just like to go against the grain,
for whatever reason(s)...self-importance...mis-informed and mis-aligned psyches, and just plain dumbasses.

Bad timing? Bad politics?(Which I generally loathe btw. Their really doesn't need to be political parties, just common sense.)

Dunno. Kerry is incapable of having an original thought...that much is clear.

Best thing for the US to do would be to deport every "citizen" who was not born on American soil,
back to the countries that spawned them. That includes goig back 200 years or so as well...
Close the borders....become self-reliant and self-sufficient.

Oh and if the Jews and Muslims were to somehow all end up in...Iceland let's say, and just beat
the hell out of each other for the next 100-150 years or. It wouldn't hurt my feelings at all.

bird chest · May 17, 2004, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Guidoo
I'm curious as to how you qualify your statement " he makes no stances at all" ?? Have you listened to a speech ( not a snippet from tv news) ? or have you looked at his website ??

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/

guido

Jjohnson........couldnt agree more....just some suck more than others...

He says he will cut the debt in half! not possible!

He says he will balance the budget, lower taxes for 98% of americans increase spending. Not possible!

He says he is against gay marriage but when gay marriage bills come up that effect gay marriage he votes in favor of gays and justifies it by saying "I am not going to stand for gay bashing." (set aside your personal beliefs on this one just look at the fact that he refuses to make a stance on it.)

need I go on.

~~bluelight~~ · May 17, 2004, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zerodamage
Probably from the fact that Kerry changes his stance on everything every couple of days. "I own an SUV" he says in front of the Car Manufacturers. "I do not own one, my family owns an SUV" he says in front of the environmentalists. He's done this on EVERY issue which is why he will lose.

Yeah and Bush says nothing at all.

Since he got into office he has allowed a total sum of....5........pressconferences.Apart from that everything he says is staged....so...no wonder there is consistency...so much consistency that he appears to be a machine.

So........

Bluelight

BWX · May 17, 2004, 08:50 AM

Kerry campaigned to extend unemployment benefits- When the vote came up he failed to show up, then the it was shot down by ONE vote!

"Well, I voted FOR the 87 billion, BEFORE I voted against it" Yeah, WHO is the moron? I would say Kerry, Bush's intellect crushes Kerry's every time. Kerry misunderestimated Bush, that's why Kerry will lose. Ha.

~~bluelight~~ · May 17, 2004, 10:04 AM

5 press conferences.......

Where reporters could ask...almost anything they wanted without giving written questions in advance...meaning...without Bush replying like a parrot to questions he had seen before.

Bluelight

BWX · May 17, 2004, 10:51 AM

Yeah and

The_Neon_Cowboy · May 17, 2004, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BWX
Kerry campaigned to extend unemployment benefits- When the vote came up he failed to show up, then the it was shot down by ONE vote!

"Well, I voted FOR the 87 billion, BEFORE I voted against it" Yeah, WHO is the moron? I would say Kerry, Bush's intellect crushes Kerry's every time. Kerry misunderestimated Bush, that's why Kerry will lose. Ha.

Also the reason he was not there? He went to a campaign rally...

He could have at least did an absentee ballot that didn't require him to be present but he didn't even do that

Why because he didn't care....

Here have a bush link instead.
http://www.georgewbush.com/KerryMediaCenter/

Better yet look through the entire archive.
http://www.georgewbush.com/KerryMedi...ist.aspx?ID=12
Better yet look through the entire archive.

Kerry is the biggest flip flopper ever known what he for today he's against tomorrow ...
He’s on both sides of just about every issue

The pro "this" is for him.
The against "this" are for him.

Because he's on their side... lol

I love the bit were he says he has ties to foreign leaders, that alone isn't a good thing considering his ties apparently are with countries that opposed the war ...the statement that he will open the Iraq contacts to cover over on including the counties against the war will get a piece of the $$$ and being in a let the un handle it....

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BWX · May 17, 2004, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
also the reson he was not there? he went and went campain rally ...

he could of did an absentee ballot that didn't requre him to be present but he didn't even do that
why couse he didn't care....

here have a bush link insted
http://www.georgewbush.com/KerryMediaCenter/

better yet look through the entire archive
http://www.georgewbush.com/KerryMedi...ist.aspx?ID=12
better yet look through the entire archive

Keryy is the biggest flip floper ever known what he for today he's agiasnt tomarrow ...
he's on both sides of just about every issue

the pro "this" are for him
the agenist "this" are for him

becouse he's on thier side lol

I love the bit were he says he has ties to forgin leaders, that alone isn't a good thing consideing his ties apearntly are with contries that oppsed the war ...the statement that he will open the iraq contacts to cover over on includeing the conties against the war will get a pice of the $$$ and being in a let the un handle it....

LOL- yeah and it will all be different tomorrow!! And next week the stuff that he said this week will be argued to mean something else! He should be a professional doubltalker, lawyer, (or a politician)

Oh wait, I guess he is perfect for the job, unless you value honesty, morality, and vision in your canditate...

~~bluelight~~ · May 17, 2004, 12:35 PM

I figure a flip flop is better than a parrot.

Bluelight

The_Neon_Cowboy · May 17, 2004, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bluelight
I figure a flip flop is better than a parrot.

Bluelight

You mean a deer in a head light lol
That’s what he looks like when he’s on camera lol

To me nader isn't an option, still hasn't figured out no matter how many time he runs he isn't going to win.

Kerry is a total retard, makes me want to leave the us... in many ways reminds me of my brother tell every one what they want to hear then stabs you in the back after he gets what he wants

Bush Sucks but if I had to choose one

I pick the lesser evil.. Bush

Although this time around the should switch seats set the vice pres in the presidents chair and bush can be the vice president

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~~bluelight~~ · May 17, 2004, 01:18 PM

Cheney as president?

Well funny because he already is my man...he already is.

Bush does not decide about anything in that government.

Sometning happens...-he turns around ..asks..what doi i say now?

and Cheney gives him instructions.

Thats what they have been doing for years long before he became president ....from the moment the dim forces realised that the son of a former president could be USED.....

Bush is as i said ..their parrot.

The one through who they speak.

Kerry will also be a parrot speaking for someone..BUT the ones he will speak for will be slightly less out in space when it comes to how they look upon the world.

Thats why he should be president..because the REAL holders of power has another way of doing it .

bird chest · May 17, 2004, 07:30 PM

Who are these "real" holders of power? Is there any proof to back this up or is it just some conspiracy theory.

~~bluelight~~ · May 17, 2004, 08:56 PM

The corporations.The rich.The capitalists.

The ones that pay for the politicians.Who pays for Bush and Kerrys campaign? You? Naaah!!

But then i am a socialist (Marxist) so few here would agree.To a conservative or "Real"liberal (That is a middle of the road rightwinger in all the world except Usa where they are called democrats) buying a politician is freedom of thought and trade at the same time. :-)

To me it is the foundation of opression and corruption.

Bluelight

bird chest · May 17, 2004, 09:48 PM

Well I agree with you their but I do not think Bush is in the back pocket of corporations by any means.

ToshiroOC · May 18, 2004, 02:18 AM

None of the above, because I'm going to be 3 weeks too young to vote this year. It annoys me, but that's the way it works.

bird chest · May 18, 2004, 02:25 AM

sucks man I will make it by a few weeks.

zerodamage · May 18, 2004, 02:29 AM

Bluelight is stretching way way out there. Conspiracies galore.

Guidoo · May 18, 2004, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
also the reson he was not there? he went and went campain rally ...

he could of did an absentee ballot that didn't requre him to be present but he didn't even do that
why couse he didn't care....

here have a bush link insted
http://www.georgewbush.com/KerryMediaCenter/

better yet look through the entire archive
http://www.georgewbush.com/KerryMedi...ist.aspx?ID=12
better yet look through the entire archive

Keryy is the biggest flip floper ever known what he for today he's agiasnt tomarrow ...
he's on both sides of just about every issue

the pro "this" are for him
the agenist "this" are for him

becouse he's on thier side lol

I love the bit were he says he has ties to forgin leaders, that alone isn't a good thing consideing his ties apearntly are with contries that oppsed the war ...the statement that he will open the iraq contacts to cover over on includeing the conties against the war will get a pice of the $$$ and being in a let the un handle it....

Only a Fool believes everything a politician says...........and a bigger Fool to believe what one says about his/her opponents.........

Guido

~~bluelight~~ · May 18, 2004, 07:23 AM

It looks like Kerry is winning.

I have just re counted four votes i found in the "Florida" fridge.

I counted them 5 times and they are all for Kerry.

Ok?

Ok..then.Kerry it is.

Bluelight

~~bluelight~~ · May 18, 2004, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zerodamage
Bluelight is stretching way way out there. Conspiracies galore.

No its basic marxist philosophy (which is accepted as political science in the same manner as is liberalism or conservatism)

A nation living under capitalism is of course at its outmost run by the capitalists since they control the money.

Very simple.

Bluelight

bird chest · May 19, 2004, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bluelight
No its basic marxist philosophy (which is accepted as political science in the same manner as is liberalism or conservatism)

A nation living under capitalism is of course at its outmost run by the capitalists since they control the money.

Very simple.

Bluelight

Um... Well since everyone in a capatalist country is a capatalist I guess you are right. You are right the capatalists do run the country that means i do and everyone else in the country.

The_Neon_Cowboy · May 20, 2004, 05:46 PM

I wonder what my current thread would have affected this polling but I’ll post another next month

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May 16, 2004, 11:26 AM	#1
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Who will/would you vote for US president? Who will/would you vote for US president? This is also open to out of country people.. Please be honest and chose the appropriate boxes... I just want to see what the general opinion is among DH members (the members inside and the USA and those outside...) Thanks [COLOR=red] EDITED FOR SPELLING -Neon [/COLOR] __________________ Last edited by The_Neon_Cowboy; May 30, 2004 at 07:43 AM.

May 16, 2004, 11:52 AM	#2
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Kerry and Nader are idiots- so..... __________________

May 16, 2004, 12:42 PM	#3
MythicaL I like computers. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In front of a monitor Posts: 3,399 Rep Power: 89 System Specs	Pffttt... they all suck! __________________ Always knew I didn't belong in this world. I wasn't made for this. But I'll never forget those who betrayed me, and those who never failed my trust.

May 17, 2004, 08:56 PM	#21
~~bluelight~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,328 Rep Power: 0	The corporations.The rich.The capitalists. The ones that pay for the politicians.Who pays for Bush and Kerrys campaign? You? Naaah!! But then i am a socialist (Marxist) so few here would agree.To a conservative or "Real"liberal (That is a middle of the road rightwinger in all the world except Usa where they are called democrats) buying a politician is freedom of thought and trade at the same time. :-) To me it is the foundation of opression and corruption. Bluelight Last edited by bluelight; May 17, 2004 at 09:04 PM.

May 18, 2004, 02:18 AM	#23
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	None of the above, because I'm going to be 3 weeks too young to vote this year. It annoys me, but that's the way it works. __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

May 17, 2004, 01:59 AM	#4
bird chest DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 454 Rep Power: 0	If Kerry was coherent at all maybe but since he makes no stances I will not vote for him.

May 17, 2004, 02:55 AM	#7
Guidoo Guido Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 134 Rep Power: 0	Zero..... Do you truly believe that politicians don't all make some kind of changes to suit the audience of the moment ? Guido

May 17, 2004, 05:28 AM	#9
~~BMG_Cya=-~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 718 Rep Power: 0	Bush. I really believe he has tried to do the right, morally correct things, but has had everyone and everything go against him. The knee-jerk liberal biased media doesn't and hasn't helped as usual. Most of the media these days are made up of n'er do-wells, people who just like to go against the grain, for whatever reason(s)...self-importance...mis-informed and mis-aligned psyches, and just plain dumbasses. Bad timing? Bad politics?(Which I generally loathe btw. Their really doesn't need to be political parties, just common sense.) Dunno. Kerry is incapable of having an original thought...that much is clear. Best thing for the US to do would be to deport every "citizen" who was not born on American soil, back to the countries that spawned them. That includes goig back 200 years or so as well... Close the borders....become self-reliant and self-sufficient. Oh and if the Jews and Muslims were to somehow all end up in...Iceland let's say, and just beat the hell out of each other for the next 100-150 years or. It wouldn't hurt my feelings at all.

May 17, 2004, 08:50 AM	#12
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Kerry campaigned to extend unemployment benefits- When the vote came up he failed to show up, then the it was shot down by ONE vote! "Well, I voted FOR the 87 billion, BEFORE I voted against it" Yeah, WHO is the moron? I would say Kerry, Bush's intellect crushes Kerry's every time. Kerry misunderestimated Bush, that's why Kerry will lose. Ha.

May 17, 2004, 10:04 AM	#13
~~bluelight~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,328 Rep Power: 0	5 press conferences....... Where reporters could ask...almost anything they wanted without giving written questions in advance...meaning...without Bush replying like a parrot to questions he had seen before. Bluelight

May 17, 2004, 10:51 AM	#14
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Yeah and

May 17, 2004, 12:35 PM	#17
~~bluelight~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,328 Rep Power: 0	I figure a flip flop is better than a parrot. Bluelight

May 17, 2004, 01:18 PM	#19
~~bluelight~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,328 Rep Power: 0	Cheney as president? Well funny because he already is my man...he already is. Bush does not decide about anything in that government. Sometning happens...-he turns around ..asks..what doi i say now? and Cheney gives him instructions. Thats what they have been doing for years long before he became president ....from the moment the dim forces realised that the son of a former president could be USED..... Bush is as i said ..their parrot. The one through who they speak. Kerry will also be a parrot speaking for someone..BUT the ones he will speak for will be slightly less out in space when it comes to how they look upon the world. Thats why he should be president..because the REAL holders of power has another way of doing it .

May 17, 2004, 07:30 PM	#20
bird chest DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 454 Rep Power: 0	Who are these "real" holders of power? Is there any proof to back this up or is it just some conspiracy theory.

May 17, 2004, 09:48 PM	#22
bird chest DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 454 Rep Power: 0	Well I agree with you their but I do not think Bush is in the back pocket of corporations by any means.

May 18, 2004, 02:25 AM	#24
bird chest DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 454 Rep Power: 0	sucks man I will make it by a few weeks.

May 18, 2004, 02:29 AM	#25
zerodamage HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 3,478 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Bluelight is stretching way way out there. Conspiracies galore.

May 18, 2004, 07:23 AM	#27
~~bluelight~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,328 Rep Power: 0	It looks like Kerry is winning. I have just re counted four votes i found in the "Florida" fridge. I counted them 5 times and they are all for Kerry. Ok? Ok..then.Kerry it is. Bluelight

May 20, 2004, 05:46 PM	Thread Starter #30
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	I wonder what my current thread would have affected this polling but I’ll post another next month [COLOR=red] EDITED FOR SPELLING -Neon [/COLOR] __________________ Last edited by The_Neon_Cowboy; May 30, 2004 at 07:50 AM.