Gays,sheep etc...And ZeroD..

~~bluelight~~ · May 28, 2004, 05:29 PM

No i have understood you are not in favour of men marrying sheep just as you are not in favour of men marrying men.

The problem arises with the way you examplify the issue.

Had i been homosexual i would most likely have been VERY insulted by the way you present your example.

Thats just it.

Bluelight

Billy Toaster · May 28, 2004, 05:47 PM

You are wasting your time bluelight - there is absolutely no recourse for Zerodamage. Not only has he shown how bigoted he is by insulting a whole nationality of people he has insulted minories and people based on their sexual preferences.

zerodamage · May 28, 2004, 05:56 PM

This is the primary reason why most people do not participate in this forum. Really sad.

When the moderators allow such things in a forum, especially one as heated as this one, people just will not participtate. That is exactly the case here. Words taken out of context. Starting threads where you are attacked and insulted. False accusation of racism to discredit someone. Consider this my goodbye. Moderation in this forum needs fixing or it should be renamed to the Lefist attack forum.

Logla · May 28, 2004, 06:10 PM

Bluelight,

DH is not the place for personall attacks on any other member on DH.

Check your PM

tastyweat · May 28, 2004, 06:11 PM

The very nature of this forum is for people to express there opinions - and even if that conflicts with other peoples opinions - that does not mean that they are at all wrong in any way - an opinion is an opinion (obviously) - there will always be people who disagree with someone else's opinion and people should not be discredited for expressing their opinion - so there is no need for anything to be attacking others - I have my own political opinions and do not express them in this forum for this very reason

Billy Toaster · May 28, 2004, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Logla
Bluelight,

DH is not the place for personall attacks on any other member on DH.

Check your PM

Zero has offended ALOT of people, I suggest before you start warning members in PM you check the threads in here. Zero launched a highly bigoted attack on the whole french nation and insulted the gay community.

If Zero wants to start calling people or nationalities cowards or insulting everyone then i suggest he learns how to take flak. he isnt god.

**MIG-31** · May 28, 2004, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tastyweat
The very nature of this forum is for people to express there opinions - and even if that conflicts with other peoples opinions - that does not mean that they are at all wrong in any way - an opinion is an opinion (obviously) - there will always be people who disagree with someone else's opinion and people should not be discredited for expressing their opinion - so there is no need for anything to be attacking others - I have my own political opinions and do not express them in this forum for this very reason

Personally i never go into the Political Debate forum,but i do agree with the words by TW.i have always known this site to have some great respect for all members.

looks too me someone is taking things a little too personnel.

zerodamage · May 28, 2004, 06:27 PM

BillyToaster's whole point in being here is to troll me. He's made that absolutely clear with his posts. His taking my words out of context in his signature. I haven't offended anyone. I haven't attacked anyone. Some people just hate conservatives and their hatred is so rabid that they will say anything to make us look bad. Even falsely claim racism which has been done, not to mention taking one's words out of context. People like this should not be allowed in here. He hasn't contributed to ANYTHING except attack me.

Logla · May 28, 2004, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BillyToaster
Zero has offended ALOT of people, I suggest before you start warning members in PM you check the threads in here. Zero launched a highly bigoted attack on the whole french nation and insulted the gay community.

If Zero wants to start calling people or nationalities cowards or insulting everyone then i suggest he learns how to take flak. he isnt god.

Like I said, DH is not the place for personal attacks.

Billy Toaster · May 28, 2004, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Logla
Like I said, DH is not the place for personal attacks.

what about french forum members, or gay forum members???, he DID launch a personal attack on them, read the threads logla, you will find he has been offensive. Its highly unfair to target bluelight here, bluelight has been calling zero on alot of his postings when no moderator has, its highly offensive commentary.

Im surprised this has happened, the mods in here are good. this is total double standards.

zerodamage · May 28, 2004, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BillyToaster
what about french forum members, or gay forum members???, he DID launch a personal attack on them, read the threads logla, you will find he has been offensive. Its highly unfair to target bluelight here, bluelight has been calling zero on alot of his postings when no moderator has, its highly offensive commentary.

Im surprised this has happened, the mods in here are good. this is total double standards.

Go ahead and properly quote me where I attacked them. Please, I am so looking forward to seeing where I said something directly attacking the French and Homosexuals. Lets also link this proof that doesn't exist and please keep it in Context. Not like your current signature.

Asmoday · May 28, 2004, 06:46 PM

"John F-ing Kerry being of French decent will explain why he doesn't have any guts to admit to anything. Why he changes his mind a lot"

Here you assume that french people are gutless, and cant make up their minds...

Logla · May 28, 2004, 06:47 PM

ok fair enough.

I didn't see the 'other' posts and the political debates is not one the forums that I moderate.

I apollogise to anyone I have upset in here but my stance on the matter stands.

Billy Toaster · May 28, 2004, 06:48 PM

my signature is a comment YOU made, if there is a problem with that, then I suggest you should THINK before you post. You know I like to flame in the flame zone, its fun, but dont underestimate me zero, your comments in this forum section lately have been incredibly bigoted and you have also overstepped boundaries. if you look through the thread in which you posted those incredible chlidish pictures and went out of your way to insult leadership on a guys nationality THEN proceeded to speak about gay people in the most insulting way.

It appears its ONLY you who doesnt see this, you disgust me, your arrogance - and your whole outlook on life, its so shallow. Everyone is entitled to their views but it doesnt give you a right to come in here and insult nationalities or peoples sexual orientations. Good on bluelight to bring this to a head, its about time people saw who you really are.

zerodamage · May 28, 2004, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cartman
"John F-ing Kerry being of French decent will explain why he doesn't have any guts to admit to anything. Why he changes his mind a lot"

Here you assume that french people are gutless, and cant make up their minds...

I explained this all ready!!! Taking One line doesn't mean jack shit. IF he is in the pockets of the French due to his relationship with the French, then he will NOT admit to anything that the French do not agree to. How the bloody Hell is this attacking the French?????

zerodamage · May 28, 2004, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BillyToaster
my signature is a comment YOU made, if there is a problem with that, then I suggest you should THINK before you post. You know I like to flame in the flame zone, its fun, but dont underestimate me zero, your comments in this forum section lately have been incredibly bigoted and you have also overstepped boundaries. if you look through the thread in which you posted those incredible chlidish pictures and went out of your way to insult leadership on a guys nationality THEN proceeded to speak about gay people in the most insulting way.

It appears its ONLY you who doesnt see this, you disgust me, your arrogance - and your whole outlook on life, its so shallow. Everyone is entitled to their views but it doesnt give you a right to come in here and insult nationalities or peoples sexual orientations. Good on bluelight to bring this to a head, its about time people saw who you really are.

It is a comment made which You've taken OUT OF CONTEXT.

I of course do not expect you to do anything more than claim things without backup in regards to your other ridiculous claims. I now see why there are only primarily leftists in this forum. Trolling leftists do this exact thing and drive them out. My desire to discuss anything here is gone.

Billy Toaster · May 28, 2004, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zerodamage
I explained this all ready!!! Taking One line doesn't mean jack shit. IF he is in the pockets of the French due to his relationship with the French, then he will NOT admit to anything that the French do not agree to. How the bloody Hell is this attacking the French?????

the key section to this is "being of French decent will explain why he doesn't have any guts to admit to anything" and its one of the many comments zero, and control your temper this isnt the flame zone.

If you would just apologize for your actions and comments and stop posting these bigoted statements id have alot more respect for you. I suggest you use the search feature and look over your postings in this forum of late.

Cartman is spot on with what he says.

Billy Toaster · May 28, 2004, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zerodamage
It is a comment made which You've taken OUT OF CONTEXT.

I of course do not expect you to do anything more than claim things without backup in regards to your other ridiculous claims. I now see why there are only primarily leftists in this forum. Trolling leftists do this exact thing and drive them out. My desire to discuss anything here is gone.

actually I dont think ive stated any of my politic beliefs or concerns in this forum as yet, the only thing ive noticed since coming here is the fact every thread ive seen you are in it crapping all over it with racist bigoted commentary, and you call others trolls because they call you on your extreme, insulting and bigoted views? thats a little convenient dont you think? I mean we could reverse the situation quite easily but I wont, anyone with any kind of human decency or mature views on the world and its politics will know you are speaking with very little intelligence on the matters.

Personally I dont care about kerry or any politicians, but I will make a point when I see someone who clearly has issues controlling his extreme views when he decides to insult whole nations and people of various sexual orientation that differs from his own.

Your desire to discuss anything is gone? I wasnt aware you did discuss anything, you just seem to shout, pout and post uneducated ramblings. thats how I see it.

zerodamage · May 28, 2004, 07:12 PM

I am not repeating myself a 10th time troll. I explained myself and you refuse to read it and understand it. From this point on, the administration can handle you trolls or this forum may as well be renamed to "Leftist Attacking and insulting forum: Conservatives come here to be falsely accused of racism and if you want to be taken out of context and insulted and attacked at every turn."

Billy Toaster · May 28, 2004, 07:15 PM

I mean no disrespect here but you have some serious growing up to do - emotionally and politically.

No_Style · May 28, 2004, 07:17 PM

I believe that's the battlefield for hateful words

BWX · May 28, 2004, 07:29 PM

It is obvious that BillyToaster is nothing but a trouble maker, a Troll, and out to disrupt the level of peace and respect we try to maintain at DriverHeaven.

I have come up with a new category for posters like that, used to be troll, now in a category that can only be described as a forum TERRORIST..
Quite embarrassing for DH to have members like that.

But it's a free world..

zerodamage · May 28, 2004, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BillyToaster
I mean no disrespect here but you have some serious growing up to do - emotionally and politically.

You mean nothing but disrespect which is why you've quoted me out of context in your signature and your refusable and inability to prove your accusations.

Zardon · May 28, 2004, 08:00 PM

Ok guys im sick of this now. if this place doesnt settle im handing out bannings. Bluelight, no need to start a thread on this with the intention to start this kind of debate.

I will say this, ive had reports about zeros posts in here recently, from a few french members who have felt insulted with the commentary.

so im handing out several warnings here in public - zero, cool it. bluelight stop trying to infuse arguments one on one we have a flame forum, and billy ive removed your sig quote.

I expect an improvement in conduct within this forum .

May 28, 2004, 05:29 PM	#1
~~bluelight~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,328 Rep Power: 0	Gays,sheep etc...And ZeroD.. No i have understood you are not in favour of men marrying sheep just as you are not in favour of men marrying men. The problem arises with the way you examplify the issue. Had i been homosexual i would most likely have been VERY insulted by the way you present your example. Thats just it. Bluelight

May 28, 2004, 05:56 PM	#3
zerodamage HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 3,478 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	This is the primary reason why most people do not participate in this forum. Really sad. When the moderators allow such things in a forum, especially one as heated as this one, people just will not participtate. That is exactly the case here. Words taken out of context. Starting threads where you are attacked and insulted. False accusation of racism to discredit someone. Consider this my goodbye. Moderation in this forum needs fixing or it should be renamed to the Lefist attack forum. Last edited by zerodamage; May 28, 2004 at 06:02 PM.

May 28, 2004, 06:11 PM	#5
tastyweat Lurking Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The void Posts: 4,794 Rep Power: 75 System Specs	The very nature of this forum is for people to express there opinions - and even if that conflicts with other peoples opinions - that does not mean that they are at all wrong in any way - an opinion is an opinion (obviously) - there will always be people who disagree with someone else's opinion and people should not be discredited for expressing their opinion - so there is no need for anything to be attacking others - I have my own political opinions and do not express them in this forum for this very reason __________________

May 28, 2004, 06:46 PM	#12
Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,198 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	"John F-ing Kerry being of French decent will explain why he doesn't have any guts to admit to anything. Why he changes his mind a lot" Here you assume that french people are gutless, and cant make up their minds... __________________ How You can help Hardwareheaven by using Digg

May 28, 2004, 07:17 PM	#21
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May 28, 2004, 05:47 PM	#2
Billy Toaster f(*k you Join Date: May 2004 Location: hell Posts: 293 Rep Power: 0	You are wasting your time bluelight - there is absolutely no recourse for Zerodamage. Not only has he shown how bigoted he is by insulting a whole nationality of people he has insulted minories and people based on their sexual preferences.

May 28, 2004, 06:10 PM	#4
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	Bluelight, DH is not the place for personall attacks on any other member on DH. Check your PM

May 28, 2004, 06:27 PM	#8
zerodamage HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 3,478 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	BillyToaster's whole point in being here is to troll me. He's made that absolutely clear with his posts. His taking my words out of context in his signature. I haven't offended anyone. I haven't attacked anyone. Some people just hate conservatives and their hatred is so rabid that they will say anything to make us look bad. Even falsely claim racism which has been done, not to mention taking one's words out of context. People like this should not be allowed in here. He hasn't contributed to ANYTHING except attack me.

May 28, 2004, 06:47 PM	#13
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	ok fair enough. I didn't see the 'other' posts and the political debates is not one the forums that I moderate. I apollogise to anyone I have upset in here but my stance on the matter stands.

May 28, 2004, 06:48 PM	#14
Billy Toaster f(*k you Join Date: May 2004 Location: hell Posts: 293 Rep Power: 0	my signature is a comment YOU made, if there is a problem with that, then I suggest you should THINK before you post. You know I like to flame in the flame zone, its fun, but dont underestimate me zero, your comments in this forum section lately have been incredibly bigoted and you have also overstepped boundaries. if you look through the thread in which you posted those incredible chlidish pictures and went out of your way to insult leadership on a guys nationality THEN proceeded to speak about gay people in the most insulting way. It appears its ONLY you who doesnt see this, you disgust me, your arrogance - and your whole outlook on life, its so shallow. Everyone is entitled to their views but it doesnt give you a right to come in here and insult nationalities or peoples sexual orientations. Good on bluelight to bring this to a head, its about time people saw who you really are.

May 28, 2004, 07:12 PM	#19
zerodamage HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 3,478 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I am not repeating myself a 10th time troll. I explained myself and you refuse to read it and understand it. From this point on, the administration can handle you trolls or this forum may as well be renamed to "Leftist Attacking and insulting forum: Conservatives come here to be falsely accused of racism and if you want to be taken out of context and insulted and attacked at every turn."

May 28, 2004, 07:15 PM	#20
Billy Toaster f(*k you Join Date: May 2004 Location: hell Posts: 293 Rep Power: 0	I mean no disrespect here but you have some serious growing up to do - emotionally and politically.

May 28, 2004, 07:29 PM	#22
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	It is obvious that BillyToaster is nothing but a trouble maker, a Troll, and out to disrupt the level of peace and respect we try to maintain at DriverHeaven. I have come up with a new category for posters like that, used to be troll, now in a category that can only be described as a forum TERRORIST.. Quite embarrassing for DH to have members like that. But it's a free world.. __________________

May 28, 2004, 08:00 PM	#24
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Ok guys im sick of this now. if this place doesnt settle im handing out bannings. Bluelight, no need to start a thread on this with the intention to start this kind of debate. I will say this, ive had reports about zeros posts in here recently, from a few french members who have felt insulted with the commentary. so im handing out several warnings here in public - zero, cool it. bluelight stop trying to infuse arguments one on one we have a flame forum, and billy ive removed your sig quote. I expect an improvement in conduct within this forum .