Farenheit 9/11, Micheal Moore is opening another can of worms

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jun 8, 2004, 05:36 PM

Farenheit 9/11 Releases June 25th in theatres

Micheal Moore is opening another can of worms
http://www.fahrenheit911.com/trailer/windows/large.php

Widkidone · Jun 8, 2004, 05:45 PM

Yeah i saw that trailer!!! I do not think its going to have a great outcome in theatres. I think this will be like "Day After Tomorrow".

Dom · Jun 8, 2004, 05:59 PM

Looks good to me.

tastyweat · Jun 8, 2004, 06:29 PM

I for one am gonna see it

Proper Gander · Jun 8, 2004, 08:05 PM

he makes some good points, but he's damn annoying

Asmoday · Jun 8, 2004, 08:31 PM

Looks interesting...i think i'll see this one..

kemet64 · Jun 8, 2004, 09:03 PM

I am definately going to see this. Looking forward to it

Judas · Jun 8, 2004, 10:18 PM

i hope he opens a bery large can of worms...

Nacht · Jun 8, 2004, 10:56 PM

He's a communist. A filthy liberal communist

. Also, his movies arent really that good..lol

~~JoyStick~~ · Jun 9, 2004, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rob13800
He's a communist. A filthy liberal communist . Also, his movies arent really that good..lol

Michael Moore is a friggin pansy. Like Morris Dees, but more fat, and less rich.

He does the same thing the media does. Like with that bowling for columbine movie..

He tried to make the kids out to be nazis, or something, but never once mentioned their home lives, how they acted in school, or the fact that one was part jewish.

he's a censoristic loser trying to make money. Plain and simple.

And I don't mean to say that jews cannot be National Socialists.. Just look at Israel, and zionism.

I am saying that Morris tried to portray this jewish kid as a "Heil Hitler, death to jews, kill everyone, and everything" type... Far from the truth.

mainman · Jun 9, 2004, 02:04 AM

I think Micheal Moore is hilarious...

Nacht · Jun 9, 2004, 04:11 AM

Look...he doesnt even look at the facts. Whatever that "documentary" was...the one about Flint, Michigan...It was the biggest peice of sh*t ever. He blaimed that ONE GUY of GM for robberies, store closings, and Flint being named the worst town to live in...he blaimed ONE PERSON...He also blaimed the company for trying to stay in business....hes a communist

mainman · Jun 9, 2004, 04:47 AM

Easy there bud, your taking the guy to serious, i dont think his meant to be taken serious, but you have to admit that he makes good points sometimes, and of course he just makes me laughf witch is the most important thing to me.

Dom · Jun 9, 2004, 05:37 AM

Thread moved.

mainman · Jun 9, 2004, 05:56 AM

I think you moved it to the wrong forum, im saying this cuz the post are getting a little harsh here...

bird chest · Jun 9, 2004, 06:07 AM

I think makes some valid point but then blows it by backing it up with BS or doing some other dumb stuff

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Jun 9, 2004, 06:14 AM

like i don't understand his straight message is

i understand that he thinks the american government is stupid, but does he think america is a stupid country in general and hates being one?

Dom · Jun 9, 2004, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BiGBrOWnPimpsta
like i don't understand his straight message is

i understand that he thinks the american government is stupid, but does he think america is a stupid country in general and hates being one?

I think he considers the American Government to be corrupt and injust.

mainman · Jun 9, 2004, 06:23 AM

http://www.scienceblog.com/community/article432.html

~~bluelight~~ · Jun 9, 2004, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom
I think he considers the American Government to be corrupt and injust.

Yes that is correct but there is a problem with this since most Republicans have the general idea that Republican politics is equal to America itself.

So anything said that questions ...anything whatsoever
about Republican politics is taken as an assault on America itself even it the criticism is done by born ..native..Americans.

Such a division of a nation is not very healthy in the long run.

Bluelight

~~JoyStick~~ · Jun 9, 2004, 09:05 AM

I dunno about communism, but the guy is most certainly feeding off the capitalist machine.

In my eyes, the fat, stupid SLOB is worth as much as Ariel Sharron.

That goes along with Bush, Kerry, all the government heads of every country, etc etc..

Bottom line - He's a lifeless loser spreading his stupid lies, and half-truths to get some money, and be famous.

Personally, I'd find it quite funny if he made a movie that "exposed" some of the workings of the media, and whatnot.

I'm sure he'd have lawsuits flying at him from every corner of this country.

"Michael Moore attempted to make a BS movie about how a select group of people that dominates the media are involved in MUCH more "devious" scandals than the public could ever imagine. He's being sued for 4,000,000,000,000 dollars, and will be executed in prison if he cannot supply it - You heard it here folks. Michael Moore, sued, 4 gillion dollars, Lying sack of crap. That's right. Michael Moore - Sack of crap."

mainman · Jun 9, 2004, 09:10 AM

Please watch your language, there is no need for name calling.

~~JoyStick~~ · Jun 9, 2004, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mainman
Please watch your language, there is no need for name calling.

Oops, left out a letter

Better?

mainman · Jun 9, 2004, 09:37 AM

Thats bether bud.

Lets try to discuss this in a proper maner or this might get closed or in the wrost case banning could happen...

~~bluelight~~ · Jun 9, 2004, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JoyStick
I dunno about communism, but the guy is most certainly feeding off the capitalist machine.

In my eyes, the fat, stupid SLOB is worth as much as Ariel Sharron.

That goes along with Bush, Kerry, all the government heads of every country, etc etc..

Bottom line - He's a lifeless loser spreading his stupid lies, and half-truths to get some money, and be famous.

Personally, I'd find it quite funny if he made a movie that "exposed" some of the workings of the media, and whatnot.

I'm sure he'd have lawsuits flying at him from every corner of this country.

"Michael Moore attempted to make a BS movie about how a select group of people that dominates the media are involved in MUCH more "devious" scandals than the public could ever imagine. He's being sued for 4,000,000,000,000 dollars, and will be executed in prison if he cannot supply it - You heard it here folks. Michael Moore, sued, 4 gillion dollars, Lying sack of crap. That's right. Michael Moore - Sack of crap."

Can you be more specific about exact what lies he is spreading and please verify his lies.

Bluelight

Nacht · Jun 9, 2004, 02:23 PM

To give a rough example, the book "Dude, Where's My Country?" takes this extremism even farther. In it, he tries to establish a relationship between Bush and Saudi Arabian royal family, and the Bin-Laden family. His primary point on the saudi royals is that directly after 9-11, Bush allowed private jets to fly a couple of members of the royal family out of the United States and back home. He sees this as a direct 'pact' between bush and the family...and they're corrupt links and such. He is mad because they did not even hold these people for questioning, even though some of the terrorists on the planes were Saudi Arabian. Now, let me explain why this is absurd.

Say the Bush family (excluding Bush himself) is taking a vacation in germany...You happen to be there as well...but you aren't there for vacation. Your plan is to perform some terrorist act, and kill 100 civillians. When you succeed in your task, the German government IS NOT going to hold Bush's daughters for questioning. They will allow them to return to the United States.

Now, What good would be done by forcing them to stay, and questioning either party? None. These people do not know what members of their country do, or those people's agendas. It is absurd to think that they should be held for questioning. They do not know what has occured, and could not help in any way in the investigation.

~~bluelight~~ · Jun 9, 2004, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rob13800
To give a rough example, the book "Dude, Where's My Country?" takes this extremism even farther. In it, he tries to establish a relationship between Bush and Saudi Arabian royal family, and the Bin-Laden family. His primary point on the saudi royals is that directly after 9-11, Bush allowed private jets to fly a couple of members of the royal family out of the United States and back home. He sees this as a direct 'pact' between bush and the family...and they're corrupt links and such. He is mad because they did not even hold these people for questioning, even though some of the terrorists on the planes were Saudi Arabian. Now, let me explain why this is absurd.

Say the Bush family (excluding Bush himself) is taking a vacation in germany...You happen to be there as well...but you aren't there for vacation. Your plan is to perform some terrorist act, and kill 100 civillians. When you succeed in your task, the German government IS NOT going to hold Bush's daughters for questioning. They will allow them to return to the United States.

Now, What good would be done by forcing them to stay, and questioning either party? None. These people do not know what members of their country do, or those people's agendas. It is absurd to think that they should be held for questioning. They do not know what has occured, and could not help in any way in the investigation.

Did or did not the Bush government allow 150 members of the royal Saudi family including relatives to Bin Ladin to leave Usa just after 9/11 despite a total ban on all flights from and to Usa?

If the answer is yes........................Then why where the Saudi Royal family given this exclusive right that wasnt given to any other human being if it wasnt for the fact that they have a close relationship?

Furthermore....the business relationship between the Bush family and the Royal Saudi family...is not news.
It has been a fact for years.

"What good would it have been to force them to stay?"

Well what good was it to force ANYONE to stay? ALL people traveling from...and to Usa was stopped.That means tens of thousands probably more......except the Royal Saudi family................................

Anyway..that isnt the issue...

The issue is ...Why the exception for these particualar people?

Either you ask this question..or you dont.

I do.

I still havent seen a relevant answer to it anywhere.

Bluelight

Bluelight

Nacht · Jun 9, 2004, 04:53 PM

It was probably deemed that they would be allowed to leave because they may have been taking an extreme safety risk by staying. This is not something the USA did to cover up its actions, it was a necessary rite of passage that was granted. Again, back to my fake situation with Germany...If germany had a terrorist attack and closed all the borders, It makes perfect sense that they would allow them to leave. These are HIGH PROFILE people...not your average citizen, and they're government requested their return, and it was granted. This is not a Bush and Saudi Royal family idea, but one that is practised everywhere. Nobody with that high of a profile is going to try anything...but your average individual coming in and out of the United States must be stopped, because those are the people you have to worry about...

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jun 9, 2004, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dom
I think he considers the American Government to be corrupt and injust.

as well as the local burger king

j/k

The video's are cut and choped stuff used out of context I bet you etc to give the image he wasn't to portray. I don't like him bashing bush becouse that only helps kerry

and god save us all from him

.

Quote:

Originally posted by JoyStick
I dunno about communism, but the guy is most certainly feeding off the capitalist machine.

In my eyes, the fat, stupid SLOB is worth as much as Ariel Sharron.

That goes along with Bush, Kerry, all the government heads of every country, etc etc..

Bottom line - He's a lifeless loser spreading his stupid lies, and half-truths to get some money, and be famous.

Personally, I'd find it quite funny if he made a movie that "exposed" some of the workings of the media, and whatnot.

I'm sure he'd have lawsuits flying at him from every corner of this country.

"Michael Moore attempted to make a BS movie about how a select group of people that dominates the media are involved in MUCH more "devious" scandals than the public could ever imagine. He's being sued for 4,000,000,000,000 dollars, and will be executed in prison if he cannot supply it - You heard it here folks. Michael Moore, sued, 4 gillion dollars, Lying sack of crap. That's right. Michael Moore - Sack of crap."

At school they had a disturbing group “cougars” (the school symbol) for communism and even got school sponsorship

~~bluelight~~ · Jun 9, 2004, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rob13800
It was probably deemed that they would be allowed to leave because they may have been taking an extreme safety risk by staying. This is not something the USA did to cover up its actions, it was a necessary rite of passage that was granted. Again, back to my fake situation with Germany...If germany had a terrorist attack and closed all the borders, It makes perfect sense that they would allow them to leave. These are HIGH PROFILE people...not your average citizen, and they're government requested their return, and it was granted. This is not a Bush and Saudi Royal family idea, but one that is practised everywhere. Nobody with that high of a profile is going to try anything...but your average individual coming in and out of the United States must be stopped, because those are the people you have to worry about...

I dont think that is an explaination thatr is mgod enough.

As a matter of fact i am 100 percent convinced that the business relations between the Bush family and other wealthy Americans and Saudi Arabia was all that made a difference.

Bluelight

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Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	Look...he doesnt even look at the facts. Whatever that "documentary" was...the one about Flint, Michigan...It was the biggest peice of sh*t ever. He blaimed that ONE GUY of GM for robberies, store closings, and Flint being named the worst town to live in...he blaimed ONE PERSON...He also blaimed the company for trying to stay in business....hes a communist

Jun 9, 2004, 04:47 AM	#13
mainman Mr. Nobody Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: OmniPresent Nightwatcher Posts: 5,961 Rep Power: 71	Easy there bud, your taking the guy to serious, i dont think his meant to be taken serious, but you have to admit that he makes good points sometimes, and of course he just makes me laughf witch is the most important thing to me. __________________

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Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	Thread moved.

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mainman Mr. Nobody Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: OmniPresent Nightwatcher Posts: 5,961 Rep Power: 71	I think you moved it to the wrong forum, im saying this cuz the post are getting a little harsh here... __________________

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bird chest DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 454 Rep Power: 0	I think makes some valid point but then blows it by backing it up with BS or doing some other dumb stuff

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Jun 9, 2004, 09:05 AM	#21
~~JoyStick~~ Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 160 Rep Power: 0	I dunno about communism, but the guy is most certainly feeding off the capitalist machine. In my eyes, the fat, stupid SLOB is worth as much as Ariel Sharron. That goes along with Bush, Kerry, all the government heads of every country, etc etc.. Bottom line - He's a lifeless loser spreading his stupid lies, and half-truths to get some money, and be famous. Personally, I'd find it quite funny if he made a movie that "exposed" some of the workings of the media, and whatnot. I'm sure he'd have lawsuits flying at him from every corner of this country. "Michael Moore attempted to make a BS movie about how a select group of people that dominates the media are involved in MUCH more "devious" scandals than the public could ever imagine. He's being sued for 4,000,000,000,000 dollars, and will be executed in prison if he cannot supply it - You heard it here folks. Michael Moore, sued, 4 gillion dollars, Lying sack of crap. That's right. Michael Moore - Sack of crap." Last edited by JoyStick; Jun 9, 2004 at 09:26 AM.

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mainman Mr. Nobody Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: OmniPresent Nightwatcher Posts: 5,961 Rep Power: 71	Please watch your language, there is no need for name calling. __________________

Jun 9, 2004, 09:37 AM	#24
mainman Mr. Nobody Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: OmniPresent Nightwatcher Posts: 5,961 Rep Power: 71	Thats bether bud. Lets try to discuss this in a proper maner or this might get closed or in the wrost case banning could happen... __________________

Jun 9, 2004, 02:23 PM	#26
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	To give a rough example, the book "Dude, Where's My Country?" takes this extremism even farther. In it, he tries to establish a relationship between Bush and Saudi Arabian royal family, and the Bin-Laden family. His primary point on the saudi royals is that directly after 9-11, Bush allowed private jets to fly a couple of members of the royal family out of the United States and back home. He sees this as a direct 'pact' between bush and the family...and they're corrupt links and such. He is mad because they did not even hold these people for questioning, even though some of the terrorists on the planes were Saudi Arabian. Now, let me explain why this is absurd. Say the Bush family (excluding Bush himself) is taking a vacation in germany...You happen to be there as well...but you aren't there for vacation. Your plan is to perform some terrorist act, and kill 100 civillians. When you succeed in your task, the German government IS NOT going to hold Bush's daughters for questioning. They will allow them to return to the United States. Now, What good would be done by forcing them to stay, and questioning either party? None. These people do not know what members of their country do, or those people's agendas. It is absurd to think that they should be held for questioning. They do not know what has occured, and could not help in any way in the investigation. Last edited by Nacht; Jun 9, 2004 at 02:37 PM.

Jun 9, 2004, 04:53 PM	#28
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	It was probably deemed that they would be allowed to leave because they may have been taking an extreme safety risk by staying. This is not something the USA did to cover up its actions, it was a necessary rite of passage that was granted. Again, back to my fake situation with Germany...If germany had a terrorist attack and closed all the borders, It makes perfect sense that they would allow them to leave. These are HIGH PROFILE people...not your average citizen, and they're government requested their return, and it was granted. This is not a Bush and Saudi Royal family idea, but one that is practised everywhere. Nobody with that high of a profile is going to try anything...but your average individual coming in and out of the United States must be stopped, because those are the people you have to worry about...