Things to be wary (and weary) of when debating...

malkor · Jun 19, 2004, 08:46 PM

Argument From Intimidation

Ad Hominem

Ad Verecundiam

Godwin's Law

ie

Fallacious Arguments

Nacht · Jun 19, 2004, 09:22 PM

You know, that Hitler and his Nazis often would post things like this on walls and telephone poles.

malkor · Jun 19, 2004, 09:23 PM

lol.

JavaFox · Jun 19, 2004, 10:24 PM

Strawmanning is, in my experience, the most common argumentative fallacy.

Falstaff · Jun 19, 2004, 11:11 PM

touche

PoopyTheJ · Jun 20, 2004, 02:10 AM

Argument From Intimidation, HMMM I don't think I've ever seen that.

**dj_stick** · Jun 20, 2004, 02:13 AM

poopy, that form of argument is generall one where someone is in ap lace of power, or much bigger/stronger than the other… oh wait i think your post is sarcastic

raid517 · Jun 20, 2004, 03:15 AM

I think arguing politics with people to score personal points is a mistake.

I may not always be 100% the most rational person here (but then neither is anyone I think). I tend to take the stance that if you kick me I'll kick back.

But utimately if it is possible to leave personal feelings out of debate, the debate always tends to benefit a great deal for it.

GJ

Falstaff · Jun 21, 2004, 03:09 PM

I think leaving personal feelings at home is the best way, I enjoy RAID517 and Bluelight, but I would rarely agree with them, it is the stimulus of change, the catalyst of understanding, the kernel of enlightenment to admit that we all do not see things the same way, as surely as there are snowflakes in the sky, we see different sides of every story, even in our own households, I can ask my son and daughter there opnions about any issue and get a different response worthy of discussion, but not agreement...lol

Nacht · Jun 21, 2004, 04:59 PM

well...agreement isnt necessarily good. how can you discuss something you both see the same way? "i think da da blah", "I agree", end of conversation!

Falstaff · Jun 21, 2004, 05:56 PM

bwahahahah...I wished that worked for me...

Jun 19, 2004, 08:46 PM	#1
malkor DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	Things to be wary (and weary) of when debating... Argument From Intimidation Ad Hominem Ad Verecundiam Godwin's Law ie Fallacious Arguments Last edited by malkor; Jun 19, 2004 at 09:23 PM.

Jun 19, 2004, 11:11 PM	#5
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	touche __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jun 20, 2004, 02:10 AM	#6
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	Argument From Intimidation, HMMM I don't think I've ever seen that. __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Jun 21, 2004, 03:09 PM	#9
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	I think leaving personal feelings at home is the best way, I enjoy RAID517 and Bluelight, but I would rarely agree with them, it is the stimulus of change, the catalyst of understanding, the kernel of enlightenment to admit that we all do not see things the same way, as surely as there are snowflakes in the sky, we see different sides of every story, even in our own households, I can ask my son and daughter there opnions about any issue and get a different response worthy of discussion, but not agreement...lol __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jun 21, 2004, 05:56 PM	#11
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	bwahahahah...I wished that worked for me... __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jun 19, 2004, 09:22 PM	#2
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	You know, that Hitler and his Nazis often would post things like this on walls and telephone poles.

Jun 19, 2004, 09:23 PM	Thread Starter #3
malkor DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 123 Rep Power: 0	lol.

Jun 19, 2004, 10:24 PM	#4
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	Strawmanning is, in my experience, the most common argumentative fallacy.

Jun 20, 2004, 03:15 AM	#8
raid517 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,518 Rep Power: 0	I think arguing politics with people to score personal points is a mistake. I may not always be 100% the most rational person here (but then neither is anyone I think). I tend to take the stance that if you kick me I'll kick back. But utimately if it is possible to leave personal feelings out of debate, the debate always tends to benefit a great deal for it. GJ

Jun 21, 2004, 04:59 PM	#10
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	well...agreement isnt necessarily good. how can you discuss something you both see the same way? "i think da da blah", "I agree", end of conversation!