NAACP chairman wants Bush out of office

Falstaff · Jul 13, 2004, 01:57 PM

Calling for african american voter turnout
Yet another attempt to polarize an ethnic community against Pres. Bush, the chairman of the NAACP, and an outspoken critic of the Bush administration is on the offensive, ever since the "no child left behind" bill that was signed in 2001. According to the NAACP, Pres. Bush singled out african american children as having low expectations due to apathy by their parents, and the enviornment that stagnates and suffocates change in the economically depressed african communities. Bush has declined to meet the chairman possibly due to the abrasive remarks directed against him by the NAACP and the hostile nature of recent remarks.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jul 13, 2004, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fallang_jeff
Calling for african american voter turnout
Yet another attempt to polarize an ethnic community against Pres. Bush, the chairman of the NAACP, and an outspoken critic of the Bush administration is on the offensive, ever since the "no child left behind" bill that was signed in 2001. According to the NAACP, Pres. Bush singled out african american children as having low expectations due to apathy by their parents, and the enviornment that stagnates and suffocates change in the economically depressed african communities. Bush has declined to meet the chairman possibly due to the abrasive remarks directed against him by the NAACP and the hostile nature of recent remarks.

NAACP, maybe if they hadn't insulted the man in the past they would have a better relation ship. No the wanted him to come crawling... When they already favor Kerry.

~~BMG_Cya=-~~ · Jul 13, 2004, 02:43 PM

The NAACP...National Associaton for the Advancement of Colored People.

I wanna know where the NAAWCP (White Caucasian People) is at?
Oh yeah we couldn't have that....that would be predjudice.

Man...the NAACP, it's followers and others of it's ilk, have been pulling a guilt trip on the American
public for the last 50-60 years. Slavery...

I for one am about sick and f**king tired of it.

You know who sold the slaves on the shores of that great country, it of the dirt floors and grass huts?
The "Colored" people's own kind.

Pfffttt....who cares what they think.

Oh wait...they don't

Sturmbahn · Jul 13, 2004, 10:21 PM

I saw on the History Channel that the NAACP was founded by a man named W.E.B. Dubois who didn't want Booker T Washington to be the black leader of America (for whatever reasons). Booker T Washington was a Republican (as was normal as the Republicans had recently abolished slavery under Abraham Lincoln) and his opponent W.E.B. Dubois was thereby forced to be a Democrat, who were still a bunch of southern racists. Later Republican scandals involving President Theodore Roosevelt and blindly supported by Washington beefed up the ranks of the NAACP and started Washington's downfall.

On to the point - the NAACP helped elect Woodrow Wilson despite the fact that Wilson was a proud racist/segregationist because they despised the Republican party so much. They blindly voted Democrat - and that hasn't changed since.

Has any other American here wondered why African Americans almost always vote Democrat when they have their freedom thanks to the Civil War instigated by the Radical Republicans?

~~bannerad~~ · Jul 13, 2004, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by BMG_Cya=-
The NAACP...National Associaton for the Advancement of Colored People.

I wanna know where the NAAWCP (White Caucasian People) is at?
Oh yeah we couldn't have that....that would be predjudice.

Man...the NAACP, it's followers and others of it's ilk, have been pulling a guilt trip on the American
public for the last 50-60 years. Slavery...

I for one am about sick and f**king tired of it.

You know who sold the slaves on the shores of that great country, it of the dirt floors and grass huts?
The "Colored" people's own kind.

Pfffttt....who cares what they think.

Oh wait...they don't

The NAACP was formed when the KKK was still allowed to lynch black people. The NAACP was a sort of counter to the KKK, except they didn't go around killing people.

~~bannerad~~ · Jul 13, 2004, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
NAACP, maybe if they hadn't insulted the man in the past they would have a better relation ship. No the wanted him to come crawling... When they already favor Kerry.

Yeah and clearly you have your favorite too. Don't be such a hypocrite. All I see you do is bash Kerry throughout these forums.

Sturmbahn · Jul 13, 2004, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by bannerad
The NAACP was formed when the KKK was still allowed to lynch black people. The NAACP was a sort of counter to the KKK, except they didn't go around killing people.

If anything was a counter to the KKK, wouldn't it be the Black Panthers? Wasn't their motto 'Black Power' (as opposed to the 'White Power' of the KKK and other trailer trash powerless white losers)?

~~bannerad~~ · Jul 13, 2004, 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by Sturmbahn
If anything was a counter to the KKK, wouldn't it be the Black Panthers? Wasn't their motto 'Black Power' (as opposed to the 'White Power' of the KKK and other trailer trash powerless white losers)?

I said it "was a sort of counter". To protect colored people, because no one else really was protecting them.

Guidoo · Jul 14, 2004, 01:49 AM

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Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
NAACP, maybe if they hadn't insulted the man in the past they would have a better relation ship. No the wanted him to come crawling... When they already favor Kerry.

The answer is not quite that simple. Prior to his election Bush did speak to the NAACP, They invited him back in 2001,2002,2003 and 2004. He accepted none of the invitations.And yes the NAACP has been critical of the President. But is criticizing policy a personal insult ?

Sturmbahn....

Both the Republican and Democratic parties have gone through many changes over the years. Infact the
Republican party used to be quite "liberal" in many ways. President Theodore Roosevelt (no...not FDR lol) once identified the Republicans with the cause of progressivism...in particular the idea of a vigorous executive regulating the economy and society in the public interest. Here is a link it's an interesting read.

history of republican party

In 1912 former Pres Roosevelt came out of retirement to challenge Taft , due to the fact that Taft was a conservative business candidate. From that point on the party pretty much followed a pro-business platform with a smattering of isolationism.

Guido

moz4rt · Jul 14, 2004, 02:49 AM

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Originally posted by Guidoo
[B]The answer is not quite that simple. Prior to his election Bush did speak to the NAACP, They invited him back in 2001,2002,2003 and 2004. He accepted none of the invitations.And yes the NAACP has been critical of the President. But is criticizing policy a personal insult ?

criticizing the president?
look what Julian Bond said just last month. this is more like slander. it's no suprise that bush didn't go.

Nacht · Jul 14, 2004, 03:07 AM

I wouldn't go if I were bush. It is pointless. You KNOW that they're not going to change their minds. I get tired of this race crap. Now, it's mainly from the blacks. I HATE this BS like affirmative action.

Guidoo · Jul 14, 2004, 03:10 AM

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Originally posted by moz4rt
criticizing the president?
look what Julian Bond said just last month. this is more like slander. it's no suprise that bush didn't go.

What about the three years prior to that.....

Guido

Falstaff · Jul 14, 2004, 03:40 AM

Bond wants Bush out now

As previously reported, the chairman of the NAACP is on the offensive. Kerry is attempting to gain votes from disenfranchised african americans in the wake of this recent attack against Bush, but it may only backfire on him as well, since he too is weak on civil rights issues. Bond even went so far as to condemn Bush for giving IRAQ a constitution but ignoring the US constitution. Although this is not the first time that a president has been condemned for not doing enough, Bond insists that unless Bush is replaced by a moderate democrat many of the successes of the NAACP will be eroded by various Bills and measures already in place. Bond is on the attack, and Bush has declined to address the criticism as of yet, but clearly Kerry will not profit from this emotionally driven attack either.

~~BMG_Cya=-~~ · Jul 14, 2004, 05:31 AM

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Originally posted by bannerad
The NAACP was formed when the KKK was still allowed to lynch black people. The NAACP was a sort of counter to the KKK, except they didn't go around killing people.

Where in my previous posts did I ask why, how, or...anything for that matter about the NAACP and
it's formation.

Guess what else...it's my right...to be prejudice. I don't have to be tolerant of any group of people.

Falstaff · Jul 14, 2004, 06:47 AM

You dont, and under the umbrella of democracy you can safely express your feelings without recrimination, as long as you dont break federal or local laws.

~~bannerad~~ · Jul 14, 2004, 07:33 AM

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Originally posted by BMG_Cya=-
Where in my previous posts did I ask why, how, or...anything for that matter about the NAACP and
it's formation.

Guess what else...it's my right...to be prejudice. I don't have to be tolerant of any group of people.

No one questioned your right to be prejudice. Stop acting so self-righteous - no one cares.

Falstaff · Jul 14, 2004, 07:52 AM

yeah....whats next, people coming out of the closet...sheesh...I agree

~~BMG_Cya=-~~ · Jul 16, 2004, 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by bannerad
No one questioned your right to be prejudice. Stop acting so self-righteous - no one cares.

Again...wasn't asking a question of you or anyone else. Just stating a fact that you
can take it or leave it.

And whatever you may think...I...truly do not give a $hi7.

~~bannerad~~ · Jul 16, 2004, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by BMG_Cya=-
Again...wasn't asking a question of you or anyone else. Just stating a fact that you
can take it or leave it.

And whatever you may think...I...truly do not give a $hi7.

Oh... Yeah... Sure... Check you out, Mr. Brazen.

You are so cool on this here Internet. Wow!

Please. Sell your fake attitude somewhere else.

Guidoo · Jul 17, 2004, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by moz4rt
criticizing the president?
look what Julian Bond said just last month. this is more like slander. it's no suprise that bush didn't go.

Decided to revisit this thread after a little more research. moz4rt the link you posted from cnsnews.com(The Right News..Right now) does not accurately quote what J. Bond said. Here is a link to the speech in it's entirety. It is a lenghty read , but far better than forming ones opinion based an
an editorial by someone who doesnt even quote (accurately) what was said. example

1)from cnsnews.com

Quote:

We have a president who talks like a populist and governs for the privileged," Bond said. "We were promised compassionate conservatism; instead, we got *crummy *capitalism."

what was actually said

Quote:

We have a president who talks like a populist and governs for the privileged. We were promised compassionate conservatism; instead we got *crony*capitalism.

a large difference between "crummy" and "crony" capitalism

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from cnsnews.com

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Even though Bond said the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People remains a non-partisan organization, he reserved some of his harshest criticism for President Bush. Bond, who has been chairman of the NAACP since 1998, accused Bush of trying to starve the government of money through tax cuts. He said social programs aimed at minorities have suffered as a result.

what was actually said

Quote:

The reason for the current deficit and the vanished surplus can be faced (?) squarely on the tax giveaways to the rich. To make up for just the initial tax cuts, we’d have to cut spending by $5 billion five days a week for over a year. That, after all, was the whole point. To further enrich the already wealthy. To starve the government, to make it unable to meet human needs, signing a death warrant for social programs for decades and decades yet to come.

when one wants to form an intelligent opinion on an issue , relying on a right or left leaning
interpretation is not a good idea. Why people rely on op/ed pieces , in particular those that
unabashedly lean right or left, is beyond me. I myself do not rely on sites like moveon.org
democraticunderground, newsmax.com or cnsnews.com. to present my arguments with.

Guido

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jul 17, 2004, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bannerad
Yeah and clearly you have your favorite too. Don't be such a hypocrite. All I see you do is bash Kerry throughout these forums.

LOL- kerry derves it. Both canadates suck... I just go with the one lesser evil.

If you line inside the US kerry as president will be horrable
If you live out side the US kerry will the man of you dreams

I choose the lesser Evil.....

I wah both , how they act what they do and what stances (or not) that they take. Sorry nader might would make a better president then kerry rofl...

least hes not on both side of every single argument

Eurotrash · Jul 17, 2004, 01:00 PM

Yeah Nader has great charisma.

http://www.sacredcow.com/allnew/inde...p?n=multimedia

Nacht · Jul 17, 2004, 07:12 PM

a vote for nader is a blank vote.

anyways, bannerad, heres what you need to do. you need to quit attacking people and attack the topic. i hate reading little bickerings between two people. (trust me, we saw alot of it when bluelight and zerodamage were still here)

digerati · Jul 18, 2004, 03:09 AM

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Originally posted by BMG_Cya=-

Pfffttt....who cares what they think.

Oh wait...they don't

I want Collin Powel to be president, just so comments like that can be re-fed to you with a smile upon the pride of this nation.

HawgsHead · Jul 20, 2004, 11:06 PM

The "L" stands for liberal...By the way.I would vote for J.C. Watts in a heartbeat!!!!And I am as white as milk..

Falstaff · Jul 29, 2004, 06:00 AM

who the heck is JC Watts

~~BMG_Cya=-~~ · Jul 29, 2004, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bannerad
Oh... Yeah... Sure... Check you out, Mr. Brazen.

You are so cool on this here Internet. Wow!

Please. Sell your fake attitude somewhere else.

Same in real life. Even more so. Wanna come see...boy?

~~BMG_Cya=-~~ · Jul 29, 2004, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ^_^
I want Collin Powel to be president, just so comments like that can be re-fed to you with a smile upon the pride of this nation.

That was...not worth responding....

Falstaff · Jul 29, 2004, 06:07 AM

I move we close this thread...lol

HawgsHead · Jul 29, 2004, 06:15 AM

J. C. Watts
politician
Born: 11/18/1957
Birthplace: Eufaula, Oklahoma

A former University of Oklahoma quarterback, Watts worked as a Baptist minister before being elected to Congress in 1994. In 1999 he was named chair of the House Republican Conference, making him the fourth ranking Republican in the House of Representatives. Watts retired from the House after four terms, but keeps active in Republican politics as the chairman of GOPAC, a training organization for Republican political candidates.

Jul 13, 2004, 01:57 PM	#1
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	NAACP chairman wants Bush out of office Calling for african american voter turnout Yet another attempt to polarize an ethnic community against Pres. Bush, the chairman of the NAACP, and an outspoken critic of the Bush administration is on the offensive, ever since the "no child left behind" bill that was signed in 2001. According to the NAACP, Pres. Bush singled out african american children as having low expectations due to apathy by their parents, and the enviornment that stagnates and suffocates change in the economically depressed african communities. Bush has declined to meet the chairman possibly due to the abrasive remarks directed against him by the NAACP and the hostile nature of recent remarks. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jul 14, 2004, 03:40 AM	Thread Starter #13
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	Bond wants Bush out now As previously reported, the chairman of the NAACP is on the offensive. Kerry is attempting to gain votes from disenfranchised african americans in the wake of this recent attack against Bush, but it may only backfire on him as well, since he too is weak on civil rights issues. Bond even went so far as to condemn Bush for giving IRAQ a constitution but ignoring the US constitution. Although this is not the first time that a president has been condemned for not doing enough, Bond insists that unless Bush is replaced by a moderate democrat many of the successes of the NAACP will be eroded by various Bills and measures already in place. Bond is on the attack, and Bush has declined to address the criticism as of yet, but clearly Kerry will not profit from this emotionally driven attack either. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jul 14, 2004, 06:47 AM	Thread Starter #15
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	You dont, and under the umbrella of democracy you can safely express your feelings without recrimination, as long as you dont break federal or local laws. __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jul 14, 2004, 07:52 AM	Thread Starter #17
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	yeah....whats next, people coming out of the closet...sheesh...I agree __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jul 20, 2004, 11:06 PM	#25
HawgsHead Rest In Peace Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Danville Virginia.The United States of America"In the God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob We Trust" Posts: 2,012 Rep Power: 0	It's the naaLcp..... The "L" stands for liberal...By the way.I would vote for J.C. Watts in a heartbeat!!!!And I am as white as milk.. __________________ Rig specs to the left in the boxes....X-Box 360 w/Hitachi 42" HDTV....If Darwins theory of evolution is true then why are monkeys still monkeys?It takes much more faith to believe in Darwin's theory over the Genesis account of creation.

Jul 13, 2004, 02:43 PM	#3
~~BMG_Cya=-~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 718 Rep Power: 0	The NAACP...National Associaton for the Advancement of Colored People. I wanna know where the NAAWCP (White Caucasian People) is at? Oh yeah we couldn't have that....that would be predjudice. Man...the NAACP, it's followers and others of it's ilk, have been pulling a guilt trip on the American public for the last 50-60 years. Slavery... I for one am about sick and f**king tired of it. You know who sold the slaves on the shores of that great country, it of the dirt floors and grass huts? The "Colored" people's own kind. Pfffttt....who cares what they think. Oh wait...they don't

Jul 13, 2004, 10:21 PM	#4
Sturmbahn DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 156 Rep Power: 0	I saw on the History Channel that the NAACP was founded by a man named W.E.B. Dubois who didn't want Booker T Washington to be the black leader of America (for whatever reasons). Booker T Washington was a Republican (as was normal as the Republicans had recently abolished slavery under Abraham Lincoln) and his opponent W.E.B. Dubois was thereby forced to be a Democrat, who were still a bunch of southern racists. Later Republican scandals involving President Theodore Roosevelt and blindly supported by Washington beefed up the ranks of the NAACP and started Washington's downfall. On to the point - the NAACP helped elect Woodrow Wilson despite the fact that Wilson was a proud racist/segregationist because they despised the Republican party so much. They blindly voted Democrat - and that hasn't changed since. Has any other American here wondered why African Americans almost always vote Democrat when they have their freedom thanks to the Civil War instigated by the Radical Republicans?

Jul 14, 2004, 03:07 AM	#11
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	I wouldn't go if I were bush. It is pointless. You KNOW that they're not going to change their minds. I get tired of this race crap. Now, it's mainly from the blacks. I HATE this BS like affirmative action.

Jul 17, 2004, 01:00 PM	#22
Eurotrash DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 28 Rep Power: 0	Yeah Nader has great charisma. http://www.sacredcow.com/allnew/inde...p?n=multimedia

Jul 17, 2004, 07:12 PM	#23
Nacht ein Krieger Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Clemson Uni Posts: 3,127 Rep Power: 0	a vote for nader is a blank vote. anyways, bannerad, heres what you need to do. you need to quit attacking people and attack the topic. i hate reading little bickerings between two people. (trust me, we saw alot of it when bluelight and zerodamage were still here)

Jul 29, 2004, 06:00 AM	Thread Starter #26
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	who the heck is JC Watts __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jul 29, 2004, 06:07 AM	Thread Starter #29
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	I move we close this thread...lol __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Jul 29, 2004, 06:15 AM	#30
HawgsHead Rest In Peace Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Danville Virginia.The United States of America"In the God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob We Trust" Posts: 2,012 Rep Power: 0	J. C. Watts politician Born: 11/18/1957 Birthplace: Eufaula, Oklahoma A former University of Oklahoma quarterback, Watts worked as a Baptist minister before being elected to Congress in 1994. In 1999 he was named chair of the House Republican Conference, making him the fourth ranking Republican in the House of Representatives. Watts retired from the House after four terms, but keeps active in Republican politics as the chairman of GOPAC, a training organization for Republican political candidates. __________________ Rig specs to the left in the boxes....X-Box 360 w/Hitachi 42" HDTV....If Darwins theory of evolution is true then why are monkeys still monkeys?It takes much more faith to believe in Darwin's theory over the Genesis account of creation.