Al_Vampyre

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3554008.stm

What do you think Guys & Girls??

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dipstick

Yes! Maybe now he can buy willing women and he wont have to rape anymore

ToshiroOC

Yes, because it sets a bad precedent to deny him the money - what next, criminal background checks on anyone who wins the lotto to see if the lotto runners can just keep the money instead of giving it out? "Sorry, you have one minor parking infraction, no money"? Bad precedent, like I said.

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HawK

Yes,

but he should not be able to use it (bribes), until he is discharged from prison, who cares if he has live a sentence, he should have stayed on the decent path. Or he should appeal on account of his sirname, life must have been though

BWX

"Hoare, originally from Leeds, is nearing the end of his life sentence after being jailed in 1989 for attempted rape."


WTF? A life sentence over there doesn't mean life guess- And why did they let this guy out to go buy a ticket in the first place?

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Al_Vampyre

Sadly a life sentence here generally translates to about 15 years (with good behaviour) although you can be whipped back into prison pretty sharpish if you do anything wrong.

Generally lifers nearing release are released on a gradual basis, eg this guy was out for the weekend when he bought the ticket.

What interest me is that everyone here has vosted 'Yes' and yet public opinion is running very high on both sides here in the UK...

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dj_stick

well yes, he won it by chance, his background, age, gender, race have no bearing on lottery. There is nothing people can do to stop this, all this issue is is the media trying to make a story out of nothing (UK papers do that often if im not mistaken)

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The_Neon_Cowboy

BTW: thats like 12.6 million USD

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BWX

Damn, no death penalty and "life" is 15 years? So if I kill a guy that looks at me wrong and get life I can get out in 15 with no chance of death? What a great deal!


Anyway-- I think the guy should be in prison for a lot longer than what he is for what he has done, aside from that viewpoint, if the law let him out, he has every right to keep the money just as anyone else would. He sounds like a moron so he probably won't live very long anyway-

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Al_Vampyre

No, you're not mistaken, I have a feeling that if this guy had been in prison for something else other than rape it wouldn't be such a big deal in peoples minds...

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germanjulian

he won it fair and square... does not matter who he is and what he did.

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BWX

Yeah I think people think he should have never had the right to buy the ticket because he should be in jail- but if the law lets him out, they really need to disagree with that, not whether or not he should get to keep the money he legally won..

I think the scum should rot in jail, but if the law lets him out- hey, that's not his fault.

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Eurotrash

[QUOTE=BWX]Damn, no death penalty and "life" is 15 years? So if I kill a guy that looks at me wrong and get life I can get out in 15 with no chance of death? What a great deal!


I guess we should be very happy about the fact not many people who think like you live here in Europe.

kelston

He should be able to touch it right before it goes to bank to pay for victim compensation.

pr0digal jenius

he should get it, otherwise i will lose all faith in the 'unbiased random aspect' of the lottery

BWX

[QUOTE=Eurotrash]Um... I think murderers should be in prisoned for life, not 15 years.. What do "people over there" think? Let murderers out? Give them another chance?

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Nacht

in norway (i think) you get 8 years for murder...at least that's what happened to Varg of burzum

Logla

Yes, let him keep it. He won a lottery - where everyone has an equal chance at winning.

Now of course, he is rich enough to be sued succesfully by his victims. So at least one person instead of an animal can benefit from the win.

Alistair

As was said earlier in this topic, disallowing him to collect his winnings will be setting a bad precedent. Also, I believe if they deny him the money he may have some legal options as far as suing to get his money because of discrimination.

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ViRuS2k

all the money should be split amongst the Woman`(s) he raped and to the famely thats daughter was killed.

he shouldnt be allowed to keep a penny that filthy skum sucker.

he should rot in hell. imho thats what i think,

Zardon

Or get 6 years (for life) if you are a top profile soccer player like Lee Hughes who killed someone in a car crash then abandoned the scene.

The United Kingdom government are weak and corrupt, im not surprised about this lotto winner or any of the poorly judged verdicts ive seen lately.

HawK

Try the Netherlands get 15 years(max sentence, no weekend leaves) for killing a politician
and 3years for raping and murdering a whole family...(with weekend leaves, and kills another)
got to take care of their own...

Al_Vampyre

I know...although I'm fairly sure that was classed as manslaughter rather tha murder which has always carried a lower sentence anyway. Don't make it right though...

Incidentally, my take on the lottery win thing is that if you are eligible to buy a ticket then you are eligible to win. Lets face it, for many people the only donation they are ever going to give to charity is via the lottery. And no-ones ever complained about taking money from convicted criminals who play the lottery...

What I don't understand are the people who are calling for him to pay for his prison costs etc. As a nation we do not require prisoners to pay for their keep so why should this guy be any different?

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Matth

Well, the dozy mare of a wife (he also MARRIED while inside) who he managed to con that he was a bank robber (didn't she ask anyone else what he was in for?) may relieve him of half of it.

And under certain circumstances, the statute of limitation on damages can be lifted, the fact that he had no money at the time, and now does, would seem to suggest that a judge should look favourably on letting previous victims claim for physical harm and mental trauma.

If gambling (which the lottery is) was against his day release conditions, then that will also go badly for his parole.

Actually taking the money away by any other means - well, that would be as controversial as letting him keep it.

If the guy actually had a brain cell, he would have kept it a bit quieter and not been so cocky.


An interesting point though - who would you trust to look after a £7m prize ticket for you?

Sic Puppy

What you have to think is that if they didn't want him to keep the money then why did they let him out of prison at weekends!!!!

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edperks

I think he should be able to keep it. But if I were the woman or man that he raped I would get a civil suit together and sew his ass.

Al_Vampyre

Lol...good typo!! I would expect he needs his ass sewn back up after being in prison for rape!

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Pompey

I agree with most of you. He won it so it’s his to keep. The moral issue wether it is fair for a rapist to get 7million is debateable but if it is legal then good on him! If it were up to me murders and rapists would get 30yrs to life, atleast.

This might interest some of you, here in nz some of our worst criminals like murders are claiming compensation for THEIR human rights being 'violated' (locked in solitary confinement for too long and stuff). At least one murderer has already got NZ$55,000! If they have been mistreated then the guards should be punished but any financial gain should go to the victims/victims families. What has our justice system come to?