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FAMILY/MONEY CONNECTION
Their official line is that the Bin Ladens are above suspicion - apart from Osama, the black sheep, who they say hijacked the family name. That's fortunate for the Bush family and the Saudi royal household, whose links with the Bin Ladens could otherwise prove embarrassing. But Newsnight has obtained evidence that the FBI was on the trail of other members of the] Bin Laden family for links to terrorist organisations before and after September 11th.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/events/newsnight/1645527.stm


Carlyle's investors include the Bin Laden family, which has disowned its terrorist son Osama; Bush Sr.; and former Bush inner guard members Nick Carlucci and James Baker. Judicial Watch says all involved stand to benefit from any increase in U.S. defense spending.

"It's mind-boggling," says Klayman. "This conflict of interest has now turned into a scandal." With the recent U.S. air strikes in Afghanistan, Klayman says, the conflict of interest is now "direct."

Klayman questions why Bush the Younger is not aggressively pursuing Saudi Arabia, a country known to harbor terrorists. He points to Bush the Elder's business connections there, like the Saudi-based Bin Laden family, through Carlyle. "President Bush should not ask, but demand, that his father pull out of the Carlyle Group," says Klayman.

Neither former president Bush—who has continued advising his son on handling the war on terrorism—nor the Carlyle Group returned calls seeking comment.
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0141/gray.php


The senior Bush had met with the bin Laden family at least twice. (Other top Republicans are also associated with the Carlyle group, such as former Secretary of State James A. Baker.) The terrorist leader Osama bin Laden had supposedly been disowned by his family, which runs a multi-billion dollar business in Saudi Arabia and is a major investor in the senior Bush's firm. Other reports have questioned, though, whether members of his Saudi family have truly cut off Osama bin Laden. Indeed, the Journal also reported yesterday that the FBI has subpoenaed the bin Laden family businesss bank records.
http://www.globalpolicy.org/wtc/analysis/0928bushsr.htm


As the world knows to its cost, Osama embraced Islamic fundamentalism and 30 years later was named the world's most wanted man. He is prime suspect in the murder of nearly 7,000 in the worst ever terrorist atrocities in the U.S. earlier this month.

Incredibly, Salem went on to become a business partner of the man who is leading the hunt for his brother. In the 1970s, he and George W Bush were founders of the Arbusto Energy oil company in Mr Bush's home state of Texas.
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20page...n_page_id=1263 -original link gone


BUSH KEPT THEM SAFE
But, while Moussaoui himself was placed in detention on minor immigration charges on August 17, agents in Minneapolis were never given approval by Justice Department officials in Washington to open up the hard drive on the suspect’s computer. The Minneapolis agents sought approval to do so—and to take other investigative steps aimed at Moussaoui—in early September under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), officials said. This came after a FBI “trace”—a request for information from friendly foreign governments—yielded a report from French intelligence that Moussaoui had been associated with members of an Algerian terrorist group and may have traveled to Afghanistan.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3067609/


The BBC says that America's special agents backed away from the bin Laden family soon after George W Bush became president.

Agents were also told to back off the Saudi royals - although that has all changed since September 11.

The findings come from documents obtained from the FBI investigation of the US terror attacks by the Newsnight programme.
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_443114.html


The report, which the BBC claimed was based on a secret FBI document, numbered 199I WF213589 and emanating out of the FBI’s Washington field office, alleged that the cynicism of the American establishment and "connections between the CIA and Saudi Arabia and the Bush men and bin Ladens" may have been the real cause of the deaths of thousands in the World Trade Centre attacks.
http://www1.timesofindia.indiatimes...._ID=1030259305


FBI and military intelligence officials in Washington say they were prevented for political reasons from carrying out full investigations into members of the Bin Laden family in the US before the terrorist attacks of September 11.

US intelligence agencies have come under criticism for their wholesale failure to predict the catastrophe at the World Trade Centre. But some are complaining that their hands were tied.

FBI documents shown on BBC Newsnight last night and obtained by the Guardian show that they had earlier sought to investigate two of Osama bin Laden's relatives in Washington and a Muslim organisation, the World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY), with which they were linked.
http://gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=103&row=1


Based on the evidence, the FBI Special Agent believes that if certain investigations had been allowed to run their courses, Osama bin Laden’s network might have been prevented from committing the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks which resulted in the deaths of nearly 5,000 innocents.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2001/1075.shtml


FBI agents in the United States probing relatives of Saudi-born terror suspect Osama Bin Laden before September 11 were told to back off soon after George W Bush became president, the BBC has reported.
http://prisonplanet.com/bush_thwarted_fbi_probe.html -original link gone


AFGHAN-WAR PLANNED BEFORE 911
A former Pakistani diplomat has told the BBC that the US was planning military action against Osama Bin Laden and the Taleban even before last week's attacks.

Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani Foreign Secretary, was told by senior American officials in mid-July that military action against Afghanistan would go ahead by the middle of October.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1550366.stm


US intelligence officials and military officers said that the Bush Administration approved the flights and ordered US Central Command to set up a special air corridor to ensure their safety to allow evacuation of Pakistani soldiers and intelligence men stranded by Northern Alliance victories.

“What was supposed to be a limited evacuation apparently slipped out of control and, as an unintended consequence, an unknown number of Taleban and al-Qaeda fighters managed to join in the exodus,” the magazine reports
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20page...e/airlifts.htm -original link gone


either all these reputible sources are wrong or somethings going on

Falstaff

Family Money Connection...
The Bin Ladens were and are well respected businessmen in Saudi Arabia, charities that the family donated to, are suspected or have proven to have been terrorist organizations, to include Osama's group. This was readily apparent during the period of support for the fighters in Afghanistan during Reagen's administration. This has never been a secret, and the family does not deny providing support to Osama for years until the Saudi Royal family put a price on his head. Read the 9/11 report and you will see that oppurtunities during a period of tolerance for Bin Laden to arrest him or destroy him were not realized by the former Pres. Clinton.

Pressure on the Royal family since the Kobar bombing to reveal financial and political ties with terrorists have netted and resulted in the prosecution of hundreds of terrorists suspects, to include action against militant fundamentalists and terrorists actively engaged in bombing, terrorism and aiding anti-government activity. Also not a secret.
Life long friends of Osama, still say they are and defend their associations with he and the family, even if they dont actively support him anymore. Salem is a respected businessman with financial interests in America and other countrys all over the world and perhaps has even profited from his associations with either of the Bush family Presidents, but I believe that he was not directly responsible for the formation of an energy company with Bush.

You mentioned Osama embraced fundamentalism 30 years ago, but in University he was exposed to a form of his faith and the teachings of a radical fundamentalist Abdullah Azzam who demanded a Jihad against the invaders of Afghanistan, a writer, Mohammed Quttub.
Osama actually remained of the radar screen until he was ostricized by the Saudi Royal family when he suggested that he and his Mudjah Hadeen could defend Saudi Arabia instead of the Americans. His dismissal and the arrival of the Americans during the first gulf war cemented his desire to remove all western influences from his home country, of which he is no longer a citizen, (because he spoke out against the Royal Saudi family).

References regarding a "backing off" of interest and investigation are actually false, a senior person in the FBI was dismissed after his investigation turned up evidence of collusion with Yemen and Osama's terrorist satellite units there. The CIA took over investigation into that association and the Senior FBI investigator was relieved because he embarrassed the United States by criticizing the level of cooperation with government of Yemen.
Further accusations against the government of Yemen forced the FBI and the Clinton administration to remove this senior FBI investigator. Ironically, this senior man was in charge of security of the twin towers the day it was struck by two aircraft and he lost his life.
http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/12/victim.wtc.security/

As far as the war in Afghanistan planned before 911, I must insist that the CIA and several presidential adminstrations have maintained a sincere interest in Afghanistan after the Taliban forced out Russian troops. The subsequent change in the country by the Taliban government and the fact that it harbored terrorist organizations and trained them created a precedent for some kind of covert action.

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the governments involvement in the so called terrorism in the us has been going on for a long time. ever since the maine was sunk deliberately to start a war with mexico. and in ww2 the goverment knew of the japanese emporers planes to attack pearl harbor on dec. 7. which has been documented on the history chan.

the northwood docs. show of us planes to hijack us planes, kill us marines at guantanamo bay with other us marines dressed up like cubans and even bomb washington dc. proof here and the actual docs. here.

in 1990 several of the 911 hijackers traied at us bases. link link2

more bin laden and us gov. connections. link link2
bush and bin laden ties. link
the cia created taliban. link
taliban and us connections. link link2

its not just bush, its the intire government. clinton and the fbi had links to the oklahoma city bombing. 100s of witenesses reported seeing an olive complextion man with mcviegh. just as mant reported two explosins. not to mention the fbi agents at the seen that day admitting there were two other bombs, which was reported on many networks, at least ten. not to mention the more than 10 cameras that show the bombing, which were never released, like the pentagon attacks. and never used in court to convict mcviegh. if it was just him on the tapes and he acted alone why not use them? what was left of the building was later burried.
and there are explosions experts that say no car bomb could of possible done to the building what the gov. says it did. that there had to be explosives inside the building. which is why the building appared to be blow out not in. link link2

theres alot of proof of gov. involement in events prior to 911 because theres been more time to investigate and docs. have been unclassified. theres only some evidence to prove gov. involvment in 911 because its so recent. give it time and you will see. history always repeats itself and eventually the gov. connection to 911 will be shown.

its all connected. the us gov. is behind these terrorist attacks, theyll just keep getting worse and worse until they get what they want. complete control, troops walking the streets which is already happening in ny. theyre slowly taking away your rights.

look at the patriot act, its new defination of a domestic terrorist is crimes that "involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State". look at sec 802 for yourself. link and look at the pdf i linked to from the govs. site, it says it too.

identity

also check out the pariot act p2
http://www.public-i.org/dtaweb/repor...5=0&Task=Print

lenchmob

Let's go back even further: the Clinton adminstration had the perfect opportunity to eliminate Bin Laden but didn't - now we're playing catch-up....

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