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Old Sep 17, 2004, 03:08 AM   #1
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There are less than three months until the election, an election that will decide the next President of the United States. The man elected will be the president of ALL Americans, not just the Democrats or the Republicans.

To show our solidarity as Americans, let's all get together and show each other our support for the candidate of our choice. It's time that we all came together, Democrats and Republicans alike.

If you support the policies and character of President George W. Bush, please drive with your headlights 'ON' during the day.

If you support John Kerry, please drive with your headlights 'OFF' at night.

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Nah. I think Americans whose candidate served honorably during the Vietnam war should drive with their headlights on during the day. And the Americans whose candidate was AWOL during Vietnam should drive with their headlights off at night.
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The documents were forged!

(like I care, Kerry's going to lose anyway)
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(like I care, Kerry's going to lose anyway)
The latest one was, yeah, but that's not as if the others were.

Apparently it doesn't matter either way to Republicans, since Kerry's war records are military fact and yet they say there're farce.
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o lord, this is about to explode i can feel it hahah...

i dont know much about bush's war record...so ill stay away from it. what i do know is that john kerry's campain is/was based almost entirely on his vietnam record. this was a move to try and show american voters that democrats arent always behind on the subject of war. (not a truth, i know, but it is a commonly held idea). i disagree with him using his short record as a platform...because it really was not that big of a deal.
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o lord, this is about to explode i can feel it hahah...

i dont know much about bush's war record...so ill stay away from it. what i do know is that john kerry's campain is/was based almost entirely on his vietnam record. this was a move to try and show american voters that democrats arent always behind on the subject of war. (not a truth, i know, but it is a commonly held idea). i disagree with him using his short record as a platform...because it really was not that big of a deal.
Well, throughout America's history many presidental candidates have used their war records to get elected. If the president is the commander in-chief and needs to be a leader (especially during war-time), any former military experience would and should be used. As a way to show the people that you can lead and fight for America before you're elected.
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how about those of us who think before we vote drive with headlights on and all the lemmings of the democratic system who believe all the stuff rammed down their throats stand in these proverbial headlights?
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The latest one was, yeah, but that's not as if the others were.

Apparently it doesn't matter either way to Republicans, since Kerry's war records are military fact and yet they say there're farce.
YEA ALL THE ONES FROM CBS WER FORGERYS AND BEALIVED TO BE WRITTEN IS MS WORD.... WRITTEN IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, AND EVEN CBS'S OWN EXPERT (who insted register or really even an expert) WON'T EVEN VOUCH FOR IT

dang it sorry for the caps lock here is a n animartion useing the word defult and as we all know it's easy to change fonts but they used the defult ...



all the doccument were faxes suposadly from a kinko's near some political
guys house I foget the name but a guy who is a army national gards men.
the wording of the doccuments used words common in the army not in the air
force

all the documents cbs has was considerd forgeries by dozens and dozens of experts...
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YEA ALL THE ONES FROM CBS WER FORGERYS AND BEALIVED TO BE WRITTEN IS MS WORD.... WRITTEN IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, AND EVEN CBS'S OWN EXPERT (who insted register or really even an expert) WON'T EVEN VOUCH FOR IT

dang it sorry for the caps lock here is a n animartion useing the word defult and as we all know it's easy to change fonts but they used the defult ...



all the doccument were faxes suposadly from a kinko's near some political
guys house I foget the name but a guy who is a army national gards men.
the wording of the doccuments used words common in the army not in the air
force

all the documents cbs has was considerd forgeries by dozens and dozens of experts...
Yes, I know. But it's not like questions have just been raised about Bush's National Guard service. It's been in question long before the CBS papers.
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Yes, I know. But it's not like questions have just been raised about Bush's National Guard service. It's been in question long before the CBS papers.
Bush released ALL his records, Kerry will NOT sign the release.. Hmmmmmm.....


Why not? Something to hide obviously.
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Bush released ALL his records
Gosh, then I wonder why a federal judge just ordered 'em to re-review and see if'n they missed any since soooo many of "ALL his records" were missing.

Vote for Kerry, HE'S NOT BUSH!!!!!
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Gosh, then I wonder why a federal judge just ordered 'em to re-review and see if'n they missed any since soooo many of "ALL his records" were missing.

Vote for Kerry, HE'S NOT BUSH!!!!!
Because the judge was a democrat? Duh...

No answer on the question of why the flip flopper socialist UN loving kerry refusing to release his records though... Dodging the question is not an answer.

If it were up to Kerry France and Germany would decide when WE defend ourselves (or not..) Yeah, great plan.

A person who lies about the people he served with and falsely accused them of unspeakable acts of abuse and war crimes is not someone I want to be running the country..

He admitted committing those same war crimes, then he expects up to somehow forget about it and vote him into office? Please.

I don't agree w/ everything Bush does or did, but he is definitely the best candidate and it doesn't really matter anyway because he is going to win and everyone here knows it- if you don't think he will win you haven't been paying attention to the news..
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Because the judge was a democrat? Duh...

No answer on the question of why the flip flopper socialist UN loving kerry refusing to release his records though... Dodging the question is not an answer.
And we all know Bush doesn't flip flop...

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That's how it's worked since WWII, there hasn't been another world war since it. America bit off more than they could chew by ignoring the UN. Which is why we are asking for help in Iraq.

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How do you know they're false? Were you there?

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I don't agree w/ everything Bush does or did, but he is definitely the best candidate and it doesn't really matter anyway because he is going to win and everyone here knows it- if you don't think he will win you haven't been paying attention to the news..
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Nah. I think Americans whose candidate served honorably during the Vietnam war should drive with their headlights on during the day. And the Americans whose candidate was AWOL during Vietnam should drive with their headlights off at night.
Yea someone who admits to commiting atrocities in vietnam served honorably now thats truly funny, He should be locked up. Hes a fraud and has absolutely nothing to run on, Why do you think he keeps bringing up vietnam because thats all this fool thinks he has. Liberalism never helped anyone look around the world !
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And we all know Bush doesn't flip flop...



That's how it's worked since WWII, there hasn't been another world war since it. America bit off more than they could chew by ignoring the UN. Which is why we are asking for help in Iraq.



How do you know they're false? Were you there?



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Liberalism never helped anyone look around the world !
Yeah that is a good point.


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Yea someone who admits to commiting atrocities in vietnam served honorably now thats truly funny, He should be locked up. Hes a fraud and has absolutely nothing to run on, Why do you think he keeps bringing up vietnam because thats all this fool thinks he has. Liberalism never helped anyone look around the world !
Yes, and not reporting for duty and failing to take a mandatory drug test makes Bush infallible.
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Yes, and not reporting for duty and failing to take a mandatory drug test makes Bush infallible.
No, no.....being God's chosen one to do his work on our planet is what makes Bush infallible, it says so in the Bible.
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No, no.....being God's chosen one to do his work on our planet is what makes Bush infallible, it says so in the Bible.
Yeah, I forgot God told him to do it. Aren't people whom kill because of religion fundamentalists? Or is that just typical of religion period?
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Another Michael Moore & John Kerry kool-aid drinker. HAHAHA w0w!
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Another Michael Moore & John Kerry kool-aid drinker. HAHAHA w0w!
Yeah, I drink Kool Aid, and?
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Yeah, I drink Kool Aid, and?
Like I said in the other post, When you get a little older you might get it......HAHAHA ! DAMN
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Like I said in the other post, When you get a little older you might get it......HAHAHA ! DAMN
How old, prattle are you?
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Yes, I know. But it's not like questions have just been raised about Bush's National Guard service. It's been in question long before the CBS papers.
Obviously by the same people who are too dumb to even forge documents- then try to pass them off as real and CBS is dumb enough to believe them... What a bunch of idiots they are..
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Obviously by the same people who are too dumb to even forge documents- then try to pass them off as real and CBS is dumb enough to believe them... What a bunch of idiots they are..
Documents didn't need to be forged. In the papers the White House release it does show Bush was absent for a drug test.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/stor...p-143464c.html
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Well this is a funny thread and seeing by some of the replys and the one who started this ignorant and silly nonsense he seems to know nothing of world events or history, sorry but true. It really doesnt matter what "virtual" president the american people vote for.. bush or bush lite.. they're both derelict imbeciles who arent going to server the american people/country, the only thing they care about it is who's gonna line their pockets with money. In light of bush's service.. you guys keep sitting back in your baby seats while the media and government spoon feed you all the crap that you "think" you know.. arguing over whether or not bush did this or that.. your so stuck on the fact that he was honorably discharged.. well wouldnt you be if your dad was the head of CIA?? wow and what kind of ignornant red neck statement is this..

"If you support the policies and character of President George W. Bush, please drive with your headlights 'ON' during the day.

If you support John Kerry, please drive with your headlights 'OFF' at night."

Come on people wake up.. do your research first before you even open your mouth.

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we are being too nice in iraq. we are being played for fools by these fundamentalist nuts.
do you all really think we have bitten off more than we can chew? a world superpower. fought a war on two fronts in ww2. almost 500,000 casualities. and somehow we can't handle this. vietnam was fought with one arm tied behind our backs. we are fighting this war almost the same way. we lost the vietnam war here in the states and at the bargaining table with our good friends the french. get real guys. we lose this one and the war on terror the same damn way.
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Well this is a funny thread and seeing by some of the replys and the one who started this ignorant and silly nonsense he seems to know nothing of world events or history, sorry but true. .........................


wow and what kind of ignornant red neck statement is this.....



"If you support the policies and character of President George W. Bush, please drive with your headlights 'ON' during the day.

If you support John Kerry, please drive with your headlights 'OFF' at night."

Come on people wake up.. do your research first before you even open your mouth.

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It was a joke.. Only a complete nutcase would take something like that seriously. Sounds like you are taking it seriously.




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It really doesnt matter what "virtual" president the american people vote for.. bush or bush lite.. they're both derelict imbeciles who arent going to server the american people/country, the only thing they care about it is who's gonna line their pockets with money. In light of bush's service.. you guys keep sitting back in your baby seats while the media and government spoon feed you all the crap that you "think" you know..
Maybe you are the one being spoon-fed a bunch of crap- actually it sounds like that might be the case listening to your comments. You sound like an angry mis-informed left-wing liberal. Hope that way of thinking serves you well.

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