Ralph Nader is the Best.

ColdPenguin · Sep 30, 2004, 03:28 AM

'nuff said.

Actually, whoever the hell the Libertarian candidate is. We need somebody to try to veto every big government bill the Republicans and Democrats are pushing. Muwhaa.

Also here's an old news article relating to how parts of the Pakistani army (our *ally*) was fighting alongside the Taliban.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/664935.asp...nowledge&cp1=1

just for kicks. because who doesn't like reading random stuff.

And here's an itneresting article on the World Socialist Website:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/no...afgh-n20.shtml
Socialists suck, but the article is good.

Well anyway who here has heard of the Northwood Documents?
They were a plan in 1962 to justify the invasion of Cuba by doing stuff like staging terrorists attacks in Miami, attacks on gitmo, and shooting down american airliners with fake MiGs and stuff, to justify invading Cuba. Well anyway it was authorized by every single person up to JFK, who refused to sign it. Would someone like Bush have the same integrity? IMO JFK literally prevented nuclear war singlehandedly as everyone of his advisors and cabinets members were telling him to attack Cuba during the cuban missle crisis and i was watching the History channel where the interviewed the actual russian commander in Cuba who said that they did have missles setup for launch, and If he only had one left he would have launched it. But anyway the Northwood Documents were released under the Freedom of Information Act so you should search for a PDF about it. i have a link or copy somewhere but im too lazy atm
Why do people post political stuff on driverheaven.

Dom · Sep 30, 2004, 03:33 AM

Northwood doc.

ToshiroOC · Oct 1, 2004, 12:59 PM

Badnarik?

aboyandhisblob · Oct 3, 2004, 05:46 AM

i'm half libertarian i guess. small govt would be great but open immigration? semi open borders have things crazy enough.

ToshiroOC · Oct 4, 2004, 01:27 AM

What's wrong with open immigration? I have no problems with an increased labor base in the US.

ColdPenguin · Oct 6, 2004, 02:26 AM

I don't really know about border haven't really decided.
But anyway our unopen borders are pretty open right now, lots of illegal aliens in America. If people are nto citizens then companies dont pay them minimum wage, which is bad as maximizing profits is incentive for doing hiring illegal aliens who can be paid under minimum wage,t herefore not hiring american workers. If they could legally immigrate here and be citizens they would have to be paid minimum wage etc. Well anyway theres many illegal aliens who have been living productively in the United States for many years who ahve not committed crimes, they should definately be offered citizenship as they will then contribute to social security and taxes for hospitals and schools etc. Anyway I guess I'm not really for open borders but having an overflow of illegal aliens is probably an even worse situation.

Also I heard Bush plans to give mexicans visas to come here to work. The basic idea behind this is more of identured servitude though, if they stop working for a company they will be sent packing back to mexico.

Sep 30, 2004, 03:28 AM	#1
ColdPenguin ***** goon Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 110 Rep Power: 0	Ralph Nader is the Best. 'nuff said. Actually, whoever the hell the Libertarian candidate is. We need somebody to try to veto every big government bill the Republicans and Democrats are pushing. Muwhaa. Also here's an old news article relating to how parts of the Pakistani army (our ally) was fighting alongside the Taliban. http://www.msnbc.com/news/664935.asp...nowledge&cp1=1 just for kicks. because who doesn't like reading random stuff. And here's an itneresting article on the World Socialist Website: http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/no...afgh-n20.shtml Socialists suck, but the article is good. Well anyway who here has heard of the Northwood Documents? They were a plan in 1962 to justify the invasion of Cuba by doing stuff like staging terrorists attacks in Miami, attacks on gitmo, and shooting down american airliners with fake MiGs and stuff, to justify invading Cuba. Well anyway it was authorized by every single person up to JFK, who refused to sign it. Would someone like Bush have the same integrity? IMO JFK literally prevented nuclear war singlehandedly as everyone of his advisors and cabinets members were telling him to attack Cuba during the cuban missle crisis and i was watching the History channel where the interviewed the actual russian commander in Cuba who said that they did have missles setup for launch, and If he only had one left he would have launched it. But anyway the Northwood Documents were released under the Freedom of Information Act so you should search for a PDF about it. i have a link or copy somewhere but im too lazy atm Why do people post political stuff on driverheaven.

Oct 1, 2004, 12:59 PM	#3
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Badnarik? __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Oct 4, 2004, 01:27 AM	#5
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	What's wrong with open immigration? I have no problems with an increased labor base in the US. __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Sep 30, 2004, 03:33 AM	#2
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	Northwood doc.

Oct 3, 2004, 05:46 AM	#4
aboyandhisblob DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	i'm half libertarian i guess. small govt would be great but open immigration? semi open borders have things crazy enough.

Oct 6, 2004, 02:26 AM	Thread Starter #6
ColdPenguin ***** goon Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 110 Rep Power: 0	I don't really know about border haven't really decided. But anyway our unopen borders are pretty open right now, lots of illegal aliens in America. If people are nto citizens then companies dont pay them minimum wage, which is bad as maximizing profits is incentive for doing hiring illegal aliens who can be paid under minimum wage,t herefore not hiring american workers. If they could legally immigrate here and be citizens they would have to be paid minimum wage etc. Well anyway theres many illegal aliens who have been living productively in the United States for many years who ahve not committed crimes, they should definately be offered citizenship as they will then contribute to social security and taxes for hospitals and schools etc. Anyway I guess I'm not really for open borders but having an overflow of illegal aliens is probably an even worse situation. Also I heard Bush plans to give mexicans visas to come here to work. The basic idea behind this is more of identured servitude though, if they stop working for a company they will be sent packing back to mexico.