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Kerry Ad Falsely Accuses Cheney on Halliburton
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And we all know Bush ads never falsely accused Kerry of anything.
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I still don't think it's a healthy association. I mean your old company sponsors you and HELPS you become vice president - after which the gain to the tune of billions from government sponsored contracts - with a no doubt cast iron understanding that if Rumsfeld ever left office - the charimans job would be something he could just walk into.
Why that company? Why not one with much less of a direct involvement with the government? After all it was more than Just Rumsfeld who profited from Halliburton over the years. I don't care if you are a republican - if you are a decent minded person you would still have to think that some relationships can still just be too close. Government shouldn't be just another business opportunity. GJ Last edited by raid517; Oct 7, 2004 at 09:23 AM. |
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it's a no bid contract becouse far as thier conserned it's of too high of importance to leave to chance and they good good results from previous contracts doing the same thing they needed them to do. As they said they wer the only ones who could...
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Some feking chance - particularly when the arms and appropriations comittees are predominantly staffed by republicans - several of which with direct or indirect links to Rumsfeld - and possibly to Halliburton too.
Not everything in Fahrenheit 9/11 was total bull. There is such a thing as work history. GJ |
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So why was Cheney involved in a sleazy company like that?
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cheney supports the cash-centric view fo the universe....
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As if the Bush or right wing campaigns have never said anything false against Kerry? People shouldn't even watch these commercials anymore.
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Haliburton
Haliburton is basically the only US company that can do what it does overseas with oil fields. The reason Haliburton has been given no bid contracts is because only they can do it. Believe it or not Bill Clinton gave Haliburton no bid contracts on several occasions. And actually Cheney LOST money because he had to give up ALL of his Haliburton stock when he became vice president. In reality he would have made more money if he had not become vp and stayed a stock holder. The payments made to Cheney were standard payments made to an outgoing officer of the company.
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Bill Clinton gave the Saudi-bin Laden Group a no bid contract to rebuild one of the US military barracks that was blown up by alquaeda
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Halliburton does a lot more in Iraq than just oil services. They are a supplier, and since the more they spend the more profit they make, they often pay the highest price possible. The problem isn't just "no-bid" it's the "cost-plus" part, which gives an incentive to waste as much money as possible.
I also think I remember that during WWII war profiteering was rampant under Roosevelt until Truman or someone setup a group to whip it into shape. Back to Iraq, I think I contributing factor to all the resistance there is the massive unemployment rate. A lot of people probably don't have anything better to do than fight. We should try to make Iraqis do as much work as possible rather then contracting at home quite as much. Though American companies wouldn't be making as much (which would be a detriment to the economy some may argue), helping Iraq's economy by decreasing unemployment is much better in the long run and would result in less resistance, and less american tax dollars wasted. Here's an example of something that happened in 2003: $15m Amount of a contract awarded to an American firm to build a cement factory in Iraq. $80,000 Amount an Iraqi firm spent (using Saddam's confiscated funds) to build the same factory, after delays prevented the American firm from starting it. Unfortunately now in late 2004 things have regressed and many Iraqi's might be a little too intimidated to work on something funded by Americans, so its a difficult situation. But anyway back to how I started, the problem isn't really the "no-bid" part of contract its the "cost-plus" part |
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The president in Afghasnistan is an old Halliburton consultant, do you know who put him in place and why it is not so clear
Did they were overcharging the US Army for oil ??? They are a bunch of scum, i wish u did not have the stupid law that prevented Clinton to stay in his chair Hope you ll do it right... |
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