John Kerry and the Democrats are continuing their “fear mongering”

The_Neon_Cowboy

The democrats for a long time accuse bush administration of fear mongering with the current terrorist threat…



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What’s the deal with John Kerry and the Democrats drawing up the draft?

It seems John Kerry and the Democrats are continuing their “fear mongering”
campaign. A long dead bill the democrats tried to put into place. (Dead /tabled
a long time). Then John Kerry says that the Bush administration is secretly
plotting to call up the draft in a speach. Shortly after, new of rumors all over the net that they are secretly calling up the draft. Of course source unknown as with many rumors, Consideing the FALSE rumor is drumming up votes and support for kerry , you can guess were just it came from.

The bill was unstable and voted on defeated 98-2 or 97-3 either way only the democrats who wrote the bill in the 1st place voted for it. Now after the administration saying the president etc said there will be no draft. In fact it takes the president and an act of congress to actually call up a draft. So that’s just not going to happen…. On any president or administrations whim as john Kerry seems to think….



John Kerry has again said that they will call up the draft, this time saying that it the bush administration keeping going the way they are they will need to call up the draft…



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10,000 democratic lawyers are ready 30 lawsuits have already be filed!!! Before the election even. A first they can’t be ruled etc on they haven’t happened yet. According to what I’ve herd their own memo on this even if there is no voter fraud, stir things up, basically stage it… the papers have allready been told Prepare for head lines "voter fraud"[color=#f0f0f0][color=#000000][/color]

[/color]Also the theme that there is some huge conspiracy to keep democrats from voting an minorities... the whole point say what ever you can or have to try to get more turn out

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[/color]This election will be a total mockery and a massive zoo… thanks to the DNC

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There was an investigation into the last years Florida problems. As hole it seems that there was no conspiracy, attpets to keep voters from voeting, says the independent investigation. The problem was due mostly a list of
felons who are not allowed to vote being incorrect and due to voter error. (As in balots puched twice, not properly punched, ballot torn or perferated, damaged ballots etc )In Florida felons lose the right to vote well many people got on the list due to error. Again many felons got to vote due to the same error. Those prevented from voting 2/3 white 1/3 black.



Seems the facts and the democrats in these matters just don’t add up

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seems that attepts may be made (rumord and by actions allready in motion) to try to question the votes from our milltary now... since a new polling came out of our armed forces... currently ayepts to keep nader off the ballot are interupting the troops getting thier ballots to cast...

of those polled:

::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::bush / kerry
[color=#f0f0f0]Opinion job approval: 61/39
who would be a better commander in chief: 76/24

my numbers may be sligly off i tried to remember what i have just herd...

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Dom

Aren't you the one who question validity of polls?

The_Neon_Cowboy

not my point... seeing alot of BS flying, it's funny that kerry and the democrats are useing scare tatics while accuseing the bush camp of doing it lol trying to get the draf then accuseing the bush camp of doing it

it seems much more likely that kerry wants to call a draft... or somthing

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raid517

Lol the ironic thing is it might come to that. Ultimately there is a shortage of forces in Iraq - and if Bush expands the US military elsewhere in the Mideast, that shortage is likely to become even more pronounced.

In reality there are only two ways forward. Either Bush tries much harder to enlist the support of many of those former allies he has succeeded in alienating within NATO - and the UN - or the draft begins to look like more and more of a likely scenario.

And since Bush has said he wasn't going to go cap in hand and ask for the support of anyone, where exactly does that leave you?

This is kind of the part where preserving the support of and nurturing good relationships with allies comes in. If you just tell everyone that you're boss and "you're either with us or against us", sooner or later less and less people are going to be inclined to listen.

Just as is the case with British troops at the moment who have been asked to occupy American front line positions - and who may refuse to do so because it would mean working under American command - the feeling in the rest of the world is very much that while we may be happy to fight 'with you', we will not fight 'for you.'

That feeling is all Bush's doing. If you act like a bully and start twisting people's arms, start trying to remind them that they have various obligations to you (real or imagined) that if they don't go with your way of thinking, they will automatically become your enemy too - all of that is just bound to breed an awful lot of resentment.

Free people will just not accept this, no matter how many tantrums Bush and a few right wing American extremists might throw over it. A true ally should be encouraged to cooperate, not asked to subjugate themselves to an ideology with which they may feel they have very little in common.

Mind you given his almost abnormal level of support for Bush on these boards, I am certain none of this concerns Neon. I'm sure of all people Neon would be the least upset if one day he found he personally faced the prospect that he might have to take a bullet for his beloved President.

Or maybe an extended hunting trip to Canda might become a more enticing prospect after all?

GJ

The_Neon_Cowboy

Actaully as the analists were saying , under kerry's plans the draft would be much more likely so go figure

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raid517

Which anal-ists would that be Neon? You mean all those honest to goodness republican ones you listen to and rehash the rhetoric from on virtually every occasion you come here?

I guess it has to be true then...

Even if that was true, you have to ask, who would have made that necessary? The draft is only for when you run out of other friends to turn to.

One way or another, unless Bush learns how to build bridges soon, you may well find yourself looking for a nice pair of bullet proof shorts.

Never mind though, I hear they do cool designer pairs, with logos such as 'Bush forever' embroidered into the butt - so I guess being such a big fan of good old G.W. and all you shouldn't really mind too much.

GJ

ronnn

Yes is scary, Bush is trying to lead us all into a modern crusade. Hope my government continues to refuse to play.

Rasta Monsta

rasta

P.S. Here's what I call "fear-mongering"

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The_Neon_Cowboy

Good because foreign leaders have all ready said, no matter who is elected they will not be sending troop into harms way/ into iraq.

They did how ever say they would be open $$$ to the contracts $$$ being opened by to the (as will be done to John Kerry). Sure they'll collect money for doing almost knowthing to help us. For working against us. For arming out enemies. and takeing bribes... sure they'd enjoy the contracts as well


Countries like France has been anti American for about the last 300 years acouding to the hour long historical specail I watched they surely will not change no matter what.... Instead of the once a “super power” an even once an empire they once were their now this little jellous bug in the coroner that is an annoyance and anyone could squish.


first of Kerry plans to add 2 whole divisions to our millitary as specail forces..


so he plans to add 20,000 to 36,000 troops to our army right off the bat... He also plans to send a much larger number of troops over sea's a large number like 40,000 - 80,000 .... becouse he belive we need alot more man power over there...

wich mean he plans to put more troops in harms way....
it also means the 120 billion that we've spen't that he keeps saying is 200 tell me he plans to speand at lest 80 more billion... and it will cost more to train more troops and to send more troops and matain more troops... train iraqies like crazy,then in about 6 mouths "cut an run"... and hope*

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The_Neon_Cowboy

How is stating the cold hard "fact" about john kerry" fear-mongering"?...

It’s John Kerry who characterizes terrorist acts as a “nuisance“like “gambling, position” things like that…. the way he thinks, the way he sees trough those fuzzy liberal glasses is dangorus....


He belives we should never go to war no matter what (unless japan or soime place were to out right attack us), never to defend anyone else under any cirmumstance. He voted againt going into iraq in 1991 when sadam invaded quwait ...

so if kerry was president then saddam would be in power still in quwait the new larger iraq.... there would be no UN sactions . And saddam would have a nice large arsonal of nuclar warheads and a vast supply of chemical weapons


BTW: the talliban would still rule afganistan.... AL qudia would be bigger and stranger then ever and the world would not be safer

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Dom

Isn't the Bush Administration the ones that said terrorist attacks in the US worse than 9/11 will happen? Didn't they also say that a nuclear attack also would happen? Talk about inciting fear...

And no, Neon, saying that John Kerry becoming would put us in risk of another attack is not fact, it's opinion.

And BTW, the Taleban is regaining control of parts of Afghanistan.

The_Neon_Cowboy

It not possable to protected our selfs 100%, so it's unevitable there will be another attack, the whole thing is that kerry will treat it with a pre 9/11 attitude and that just doesn't cut it in a post 9/11 world...

if kerry was in office atm, the world would not be a safer plance with saddam, al quida, the taliban all in full swing.... saddam mabye invadeing a few more conties and takeing over after they took over quwait... could verry well became another "hitler-like" sitwation...

think god kerry hasn't been president... he shouldn't even be a senator...
easpally after self admiting to being a war crimanal, self admiting what is by defonition an act of treason... senator absent, he is called becouse he's not there most of the time the can't even do his job as a senator... little lone represant a hole country

i'd rather see nader or some one like that else elected then john kerry don't vote for kerry just becouse you don't like bush wich is what alot of you are doing.... there saying anyone but bush ... but kerry is a worse choice

and even if kerry was elected, renoiged on his promises, made magor mistakes scewd everything up, will you still then support him? still vote for him?

it's been said worese care screnero that he appoints hillery clition to an office were she can spend the rest of her days effectively re writeing the us consitition / changeing law/policy the way she sees fit...actaully hilleray may be running in the next presideantal it's rumored....

(IMO: the clintons should effectly shut up thier mouhs haven't closed since they left office)

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raid517

Normally I wouldn't consider you worth quoting Neon, but since I'm bored what they hey.

That my friend is what is known in this business as simple bullshit. Bullshit plain and dirty. It is bullshit from the very first sentance you print, to the last full stop you hit at the end of your little irrational tantrum.

France and all the other countries of this good (and still rather large) Earth have not said they would never send any forces to Iraq under any conditions. They have said they wouldn't do it without good or legal justification to do so - which so far the US has largely been unable to provide.

Besides which you are horribly misguided about France being 'Anti American' for the last 300 years. The American state hasn't even been in existance for 300 years - so how anyone could have been against it for that long is to say the least extremely difficult to see. Indeed it was the French who helped build the American nation, who stood with the American colonists against the British - and who without their influence there would probably be no 'American nation.' as it exists today. Moreover much of the content of the American constitutuion was inpired by influential French philosophers of the day, such as Voltaire, Rousseau and others (and also by the English philosopher Francis Bacon), so without the French, their help, their influences and their ideas, the American state would no doubt be a mere shadow of what it is today.

You may feel the French owe you a debt of grattitude for your help in WWII - but you my friend owe the French a debt of gratitude for your very existance. It just so happens that your memory is somewhat shorter than anyone else's.

You should try reading up on the history of your country sometime - as you appear to know very little about it. Have you ever read a good biography of Thomas Jeffeson, or of George Washington or any book on the origins of the American war of Independance? (Indeed have you ever read a book?). I recommend you do before you come back here and start making a fool of yourself in public again by mouthing off on your clearly uninformed opinions about who suppoted what and when.

Moreover the French and much of the rest of the developed world stood shoulder to shoulder with America for almost 60 years through the joint command structure that was NATO. Thoughout that period we all faced the threat of Soviet Russia equally, via a joint guarantee of mutual defense, though joint command structures and joint intelligence gathering operations. Together the world stood and together we helped defeat once and for all the evil that was the ideology of communism - and to set the world on what we all imagined then would be a better course.

It is rank idioacy to imagine that this could have been achieved without the coperation and assistance of a large scale alliance like NATO. Just as it is impossible today to imagine how you can win an international war on terrorism if you are not prepared to invest a similar effort in winning and maintaining strong strategic partneships and relationshisp with governments around the globe - particularly with those with the greatest ability to make a difference to any such effort.

If your only interest is to reposition the USA as 'boss' in the world - and you tell people that they are either with you or against you, if you force them to choose and tell them they might suffer for it if they do not opt to follow you like so many blind sheep, then they may well choose. But you should NOT be suprised if this means that they do not choose you. No one wishes to be subdugated, not even if it is by America.

It is your President Bush who has helped make all of this happen - by ignoring the fact that free people will often make their own choices - and by forgetting the fact that contrary to what a lot of Americans appear to believe, America is not the only free nation on this planet.

So first you are in favour of fighting this war - and now you are not? If you are going to win then you will need more resources. It sounds to me more like Kerry is gearing up to provide the resources that should have been provided from the start if you were to have any chance of winning. Either you want to win on your own or you don't. If you do, it will undoubtedly cost a whole lot more than has been spent to date - and as a result, your taxes - and the national deficit will continue to rise.

It doesn't matter which president you choose, as both will face this reality.

You imagine you are better off with your tax cuts now. But what happens when it comes time to pay for the deficit? You can't have a deficit and not pay - the entire country would become bankcrupt. Sooner or later you will have to foot the bill - and any tax cuts you recive now will look puny by comparison.

Again here you show your utter ignorance of historical events.

Kerry would not/could not have been responsible for any of these events - as quite simply Kerry did not stand as a candiadte at the last election. Whatever his beliefs are today, they could not have had any influence on any of these issues. You appear to be confusing him with Al Gore - and whatever Al Gore believed. You can't accuse Al Gore of 'flip flopping', or being anti partiotic or whatever because his views and his history are very possibly fundamenmtally different to those of Kerry.

If you are projecting Kerry's values on to the entire history of the American Democratic pary, then again I'm sorry to say you are mistaken - as there is no evidence that the American Democratic party has ever behaved in an anti-patriotic way - or has ever shirked away from a conflict whenever the need arose to stand up and fight. Try telling Franklin D. Roosevelt that he was anti patriotic when he stood up against Germany and the Japanese in WWII, or Kenedy when he confronted the Russians in the Cuban missile crisis, or Lyndon B. Johnson when he massively increased American commitment to the vietnam war in the mid 60's - only to have this effort erroded later by a subsequent Republican Administration. An adminstration that BTW came to power on a 'stop the war' ticket.

If anything it is the Republican Party who has shown the greatest tendency to want to run from a fight and not the democrats.

Anyway if you are intereste in American history and politics and are not keen on reading books (which you certainly appear not to be) you could do worse than take a look at the following web site: http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/m...0Enlightenment

It contains a lot of information about your past history, but also covers recent and modern history too.

Read through some of this - and then perhaps we can talk about what the origins of your country and of the Democratic and Republican party really are.

GJ

pr0digal jenius

the fact that u even mentioned this has made me disregard yer entire post

in ym book, crusading aroudn the world is his LEAST important job and yer parading ti as one of his most

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The_Neon_Cowboy

Hey I'm only quoteing the FACTual results of the servay that was done. In the same severy they asked other questions were people belived that they didn't send in enough troops etc... that was against bush but still the most intersting numbers are the ones i posted despite any critisim they though bush to be the better "commander in chief" by far.

sorry if the numbers don't suit you this was but one polling and polls are in accurate but the best indicator we have... difrent kinds of polls have diffrent kinds od sampleing a possable corruptiom but wasn't some web poll that any one could vote on but of US troops....


I'm done with this thread

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Dom

I like how Neon thinks Dick's got the foresight to know that if Kerry was President there'd be more attacks. I'm just curious where all his foresight was before 9/11?

The_Neon_Cowboy

thats a given... it's only a matter of when and a matter of were so you saying there will never be another terror attack in the usa? and what genie in the bottle told you that?

the point it is envetitable, when itdoes happen it will treated, "as a simple nusance, like prostitution, and gambleing etc"-john kerry, not the way it should be ...


seprate from that.....
kerry's policies etc will make us less safe in the 1st place he will lead a much less agressive war on terror. persobally he's going to be to busy trying to librilize and the way i see it scew up the united states

(you quoted me so i figured i'd respomd)

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Dom

You have a huge double-standard and political bias, Neon.

Liberals and democrats - bad. Conservatives and republicans - good.

All you state is opinion, not fact. Why don't you discuss what makes one idealogy better than the other instead of ranting?

raid517

I'm not going to trouble myself answering this, I think what I said stands up well. The fact that our friend Neon believes that answering these issues with the empty rehtroric and 'headlines' he often hears on fox news and that replying in red all the time lends his viewpoint any more legitamacy, is I think testemony to the quality of his arguments in general.

He very much mimics his beloved President in this regard (though he does so poorly) by using simple rhetoric and repitition in place of logic and reasoning. Even though his responses are not relevant to the issues at hand, he believes that by simply and endlessly repeating phrases from the same script, this will somehow lend his opinions some kind of additional weight.

But that said there are things about Neon that incline me to not wish to be too harsh. I think most of us know what those are. Let's leave it at that.

GJ

The_Neon_Cowboy

you mean john kerry bad, anyone else good ...

what di you expecat... I find my self classified as a conservatives republican this year. the first time ever i've seemed to take such a side.

I belive Kerry is not right for the job and that alot of things bush is critsized for is unjust. when you look at the same information and were in thier place youd do the exact same things, unless you a unfit president of course...

diplomecy failed, the UN. made dang sure of that yes he was a little gung ho about it but in such matters you don't beat around the bush/pussy foot around. especailly to some corrupt body of self servieing forighn leaders. mabye that why the UN was found out bugged by the US you rember that one? the US intelligence knows more then they let on about alot of stuff.

I use alot of fact, but becouse I can't get in writeing to you in triplicate from what you consider a 105% creditable sourse (how about a list of all places you consider and i'll look there for them, but i'm guessing those places don't cover alot of things, there is a mass liberal bias amoung the printed word). Don't mean it isn't true... it not like i'm makeing this stuff up... unless you thing CNN and fox news is fabricateing everything they report , the videos of john kerry faked, his own speaches faked, reporst faked,Duelfer report etc, interviews faked , discussions faked.... the un scandle faked, iraq war coverage faked .... I've been glued mostly to the news since day one can you say the same...?

have fun, you like to read? read everything linked to and on the pages here for starters... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,135654,00.html

I guess I have to bay a sever with ubber gigabytes of storge and bandwith, buy a tv capture card again, and capute news, programs etc to play back to base were i got my facts from.

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SaberZ

I for one am sick of Bush.


And I for one side with Kerry when he said we shouldn't get involved in other peoples conflicts.


1. Every conflict we got ourselves into has created enemies.

1967 - The Israeli/MIddle Eastern War.
Made enemies with most of the Arabian Nations.

1980's- Made Enemies of the Taliban after, AFTER the USA said they would help rebuild Afghanistan once the Taliban defeated the Big Red Army. Suffice to say, after it was done, we didnt help them, and pulled out our support.

Taliban became our enemy, the ones we helped.

1990's- Iraq invades a former peice of territory that used to be theirs before Kuwait broke itself apart. US comes to their aide, and puts a temporary stop to the invasion. Puts imbargo's on Iraq and instead of helping the people makes them suffer from the Embargo's.
Iraq is semi enemy now, we punished the people while trying to punish the dictator.

2001 - Attack on WTC, lets go back to Afghanistan and like, blow mountains up! and then afterwards goto Iraq and say there is a link to Al-quada, and there are a boat load of WMDs! Sounds like a good excuse to goto war for the oil!!!.

2004 - Most countries hate our guts since we basically told the UN to **** off and did our own thing. And now we are expecting them to help us? lol oh my, why dont we just pull out entirely. Help them rebuild, but don't tell them how to be a democracy, and for god's sake, have Haliburton give up the oil fields and let Iraqi owned companies handle it. Why? Since um..they've been doing it before the embargo's.



Now I don't know about you, but after 2001, everything Bush did, was complete and utter stupidity, and goes to show you how much of an idiot he is.


He said there were WMD's, he said there was a LINK...funny I didn't read about them finding anything relating to the two.

Oh its ok, its an intelligance error, if its ok? then pull the hell out and leave the middle east alone. The more you try to pry yourself in over there, the more your gonig to upset the MIddle Eastern Countries. Let alone other countries when you interfere with their regions as well.




And if thats not enough. Lets go farther back in history.


late 1800's US sends Mathew Perry to Japan, threatens to use his ships if Japan doesn't agree to trade. 1 year later he returns, Japan modernizes itself and goes to war with us. The japanese for the longest time had a deep hatred for the US for that event. Now Japan is our "ally" after we we dropped off two packages and basically help rebuild them.

France's deep seeded hatred could probably be traced back to our US beginnings, when France was helping the US fight against the British. Before the war came to a close, there were talks about the US going to France to help fight off Britain on that side, suffice to say, after the war, we didnt go. As for today, the present, might be due to the Fiasco in 2001 with the UN. We owe a lot to them, and both accounts pretty much ignored their plea for help, or requests to not go gung-ho.


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Honestly who are we to basically have bases everywhere? Why do we have to be big brother to everyone else? We don't have to be, yet we are. I'm probably insane for thinking this...but kinda sounds like modern day imperialism to me...*hears a knock on his door...

Hello..

FBI!

OH NOES!!!



In the end, im for anything but Bush. At least with Kerry there is a flipflopping chance he can do anything, but with Bush I know it will be the same BS for another 4 years. If he wins, I'll be seeing a bunch of Driver Heaven mates on the front lines! Now if only I had the Grammatical impact that Raid517 has, I'd be set, but I don't so forgive me ;_;

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#1. Obviously our plan to make the man go Bankrupt didnt work.


#2. We were a very small consumer of Iraqi oil. But now that we OWN the iraqi oil fields, who is going to benefit the most from that? Us or the Iraqi people?

DING DING here's a hint. USA


#3. Their oil fields, let them do what they want. It's their country, and their resources. But oh wait, we wanted their oil, because we are the $$$ hounds.


#4. At the time this all began. Did we know these supposed corrupt nations were doing this? NO. Suffice to say that statement is kinda moot. We are probably as corrupt as they are, but we hide it a tid bit better.

#5. Ok let me ask you this. What was our reason for going to war?

a. To find weapons of mass destruction.
b. To find theories and future capabalities of WMD's.
c. To retrieve President Bushes Tasty Cake Oven.
d. To find a KNOWN link to Al-Quaida and Saddam.
e. To find a theoretical link between Al-Quadia and Saddam.

We went to far on the notions of A. D.

We found nothing, except hypothetical, inferences that might, key word "MIGHT" indicated a 10% chance that he may have been able to bake a cake..i mean create a biological weapon of mass destruction. Hmmm good reason to send our troops there for a moot reason!


The US is the biggest hypocrit in this WMD issue. We have more off the good stuff than all the countries combined. Makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside doesn't it?


#6. There is no terrorist state. What you fail to realize is this. We are the catalyst (A substance, usually used in small amounts relative to the reactants, that modifies and increases the rate of a reaction without being consumed in the process.) for the terrorists. All these shootouts, and bombings are going on why? Because we are in the area where the bombings and shootouts are taking place.


#7. Honestly the fighting in the MIddle East wont stop for 2 reasons.

a. They hate Israel.
b. They hate the USA for helping Israel.


Only way your gong to put an end to this "Terrorism" as 99% of you prefer to call arabs/muslims who commit these attacks, is to either leave the Middle East alone, Nuke Israel, or Nuke the Middle East. Which of the 3 would you prefer?

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raid517

Now now Neon, don't force me to be unkind to you. If I were to say what I really thought of you I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't think it was very pleasant or decent - particularly not for a political forum. Just try to see when people are attempting to be nice to you.

But it is my still belief let's just say that the over use of rehetoric, repetition and pointless repetative quotation in a political debate rates little higher than the language of monkeys - it is simply pointless empty meaningless chatter that bares no significance at all to the reality of anything that is actually going on at this time.

Your only ability is to repeat Fox news headlines endlessly, regardless of what is being said, whether or not it bares any relevance to the topic at hand or not.

It is fair to say that I, along with most other people who think (and read) regularly about these matters that I do not care as much as a rat's fart for what Fox's new's plainly biased opinions on the events of the day might or might not be. But more than that I would be willing to extent this distain to almost any US television channel currently in operation.

I don't quite know what to say about this. Anyone who shows such distain for the printed word can hardly be taken seriously. I would rather read any half decent book on political history or ecconomic theory (even if it were written by a Consevative, a Liberal or whoever) than I ever would any single report from fox news.

Take away fox news and what do you have Neon? Where is your entire intellectual base, what other sources of information do you have about the issues that confront your country and of of what the history of your nation is?

How can anyone argue reasonably with someone who believes ''France plotted to invade America on at least 3 occasions?''

You clearly believe what you are repeating are facts. I am happy to leave you with that.

Best regards,

GJ

Dom

I'm just tired of hearing your excuses over and over again. As if you really need to record news programs or bookmark every article you see. So dramatic. I don't need to do that and I haven't seen anyone else use that excuse neither. If you really had any proof to back up half of your rehtoric, you'd supply it.

The only proof of anything you've ever supplied by a reputable news source (ABC, CBS, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NBC. You know, what the mainstream uses for information?) was about the UN scandal, which was something I never even disputed.

But then again, you probably can't find what you're looking for because of "the liberal media". As if there's some big conspiracy.

raid517

The guy literally talks in Fox news headlines. You would be better off arguing politics with your dog.

GJ

SaberZ

Maybe if we reply fire with fire..


Fox news headline vs fox news headline...

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digerati

I think we all need to relax, get some oreos, and beat Neon to death with them.

Neon if you get anymore right wing you're going to start kicking foreigners out of the country and stepping on orphanage children for taking your tax money.