pr0digal jenius

Neon...how you gunna get off calling some of these 'misquotes/context fouls'...
...a large portion of thema re plain and simple dumbassery at it's finest with no other possible explanation.

The_Neon_Cowboy

It you belive this accurate, thruthfull, and in context what was said or ment to be said then I have a bridge in london to sell you. No seroiusly if you belive those quotes @ face vale then you will belive anything. Seriouisly let me know if you do becouse you will have lost all respect and creditabilty... I've actually herd some of the real speaches that have been quoted i know better...

just as an example read this

* We will stand up for terror. We will stand up for freedom."
—Bush, speaking on the campaign trail, Oct. 18, 2004, in Marlton, N.J

now read it again I changed only 1 word

* We will stand up against terror. We will stand up for freedom."
—Bush, speaking on the campaign trail, Oct. 18, 2004, in Marlton, N.J

like I said a simple single word changed makes a massive differance.... but insted lets look at context

HE MESSED UP SIMPLE AND EASY MISTAKE:
We will stand up for terror
ERROR/ CORRECTION- SAME LINE RESTATED
we will stand up for freedom.

alot of these are way out of context

Read the full real speachs here, all speaches are transcripted on his site
http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=3968
It's had to find full transcripts so people think they can get away with makeing stuff up TAKEING IT OUT OF CONTEXT with no proof...easpecally with a big list like this...

on that one again he said it but it's a "miswording" by his speach writer And he reads it right off the paper... or her just botches up it verry common and I bet even you will make mistakes like this in the same shoes...

some of them just seem like they've moved words around, oimted words, changed words etc. I seen this list before it's totally BS...

here is one i persally heard live tv...

whats posted here:
* "After standing on the stage, after the debates, I made it very plain, we will not have an all-volunteer army."

Some of these are mistakes as in said something oops then corrected him self
it happens alot in speaches.

Really this list it total BS. How would you like it If I started quoteing you guys this way???

the bushism

"They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
--A speech at the signing ceremony for a $417 billion defense spending bill Thursday, August 5, 2004

the real quote:

the man screws up, so do I, so do you it's only human to error.To error dureing a series of long speachs is beyond common, it's a given. Espeally when add in being tired, stressed, travel lagged, etc...

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pr0digal jenius

the man's still frikin funny to watch when he attempts to orate....be they spoonerisms or dumbassery.....they still make me laugh.....and cry, once I realize that's my nation's leader up there butchering the vernacular

pr0digal jenius

I've never screwed up on national TV...and to be honest, I rarely screw up when I'm reading something I've rehearsed once or twice before....

raid517

If only Bush had somone like Neon to explain what he meant after each speech things wouldn't be so bad I guess. The problem is that he doesn't - which often leaves a lot of people wondering what on Earth he is talking about.

GJ

TJ-

just goes to show BUSH REALLY IS DUMB...

Senor_Mota

You know, I looked at it in that way as well, but I realized no matter how biased or "out-of-context" those quotes and comments may seem, it's all the same in the fact that George W. Bush is a blithering idiot. He's run oil companies into the ground, did a bunch of coke in college(who didn't though?), and has one of the worst senses of the English language I've ever heard or seen. He's run our economy into the ground, he made it legal for illegal immigrants to come and work legally(bad, bad move), he supports the Patriot Act, and when he and John Ashcroft get together, watch out(Good thing that's coming to an end)! The only reason I spoke up was to defend a personal belief...not to retain the "good name" of silly ol' Dubya. You can chat all the crap up that you like about this man, but the fact of the matter will never change - "BOOK SMARTS" DON'T CREATE COMMON SENSE AND THE AMERICAN SCHOOL SYSTEM FAILED TO TEACH SOMEONE WHO ATTAINED AN MBA THE ENGLISH LAGNUAGE.


It's really kind of sad.

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The_Neon_Cowboy

kerry's made simualar mistakes every public speaker has.... I don't see a big list of kerryisms now do we?

again you not figureing out being prsident is a super stressful job. Add to that travel lag , lack of sleep, faceing critism at every turn, being all out tired...

don'tt eat or sleep for 4-5 days, run 5 miles and then try to do an hour long speach infrount of billions, with out any mistakes that should about even the playing field..... like i said you not putting your self in his shoes

I guess they assume your intelligent enough to figure it out on your own. Mistakes happen easpecally when reading speaches, makeing speaches etc... Like I said before he's sliped went back repeated / corrected him self .

To take so mistakes and read extra meaning into them is wrong and a false hood an you know it. propaganda at it's fineist...

those people that wonder want he wants is saying (by one mistaken sentance or part of one, from a 1 hours speach on the topic) are being "will-fully" Ignorant and allready critical of him just looking for points of attack and more resons to hate .... hate in it self in blindeing and leads you no were...

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raid517

Well let's just say we can see why you are such an admirer Neon...

GJ

canislupis

I don't hate you. I hate you trying to run my country. I don't try to run yours, but since you started it, I think Blair is the best leader Britian has had since Churchill .
More of that attitude that the "wealthy" Americans should be giving all their money away to other countries. I am convinced statistics would show Americans do more to 'help' than any other country in the world. The 'wealth' everyone seems to portray us as basking in is more of that image Hollywood has created for us. Hollywood is not representative of the average American. We do not all spend all our time at the country clubs or day-spas. Most of us work our arses off for a tiny slice of the "American dream".
Why is it that for every person in the world that makes things happen, there are 10 people sitting on their duffs critiquing?
True, I am embarrassed for him when he speaks, he is lousy at that. I just feel it is shallow to judge anyone based on that alone. Some of the best public speakers I know are complete morons, you probably know someone like that, don't you? I personally think he does better than I ever could staring into a camera lens or crowd, knowing a billion eyes were watching your every gesture. I think it requires a special talent to be able to do that, and that it doesn't directly correlate it to the ability to make logical decisions.
That's funny, because it seems as if 99 percent of the people in the US that voted for Bush would describe themselves as ordinary folk, myself included. Ordinary people understand it's not easy. Again, listen to me this time: What you see on American TV shows is NOTHING LIKE REAL AMERICA. If you come here, come out to the Midwest (the RED states ) and I will show you the real America. I bet we are more alike than you think.Again integrity is why I voted for Bush. He does what he believes is right, not whatever is popular that day in Europe or California.I doubt I could change your mind, but I have no intentions of letting your statements go uncontested. There are already enough people in the world getting the mistaken impression that everyone thinks the same way you do, when obviously we do not. I do believe left-thinking people are more likely to speak their minds effectively in a public forum, so we are maybe 3 times as likely to hear an opinion like yours as we are a conservative opinion.
LOL! Well, I agree with you here. Sadly though, I am not going to rule out all conservative leaders for this weakness. (see my previous comment)This is why I accuse leftists of being gullible. They alway fall for the fast talking salesman. Kerry only SOUNDED like he knew what he was talking about, and did a dang good job of it. Clinton was just as bad. If we wanted to blind the rest of the world with bullshit, they are the right men for the job. On second though maybe we need a new presidental cabinet position for Bill Clinton and John Kerry:


CanisLupis

canislupis

You know if you all cared enough to research, Bush does have a higher IQ than John Kerry, though Kerry denies he ever took an IQ test. How many of you believe that?

digerati

I don't think Bush is an idiot, but I wouldn't say he comes off as intelligent at ALL.

raid517

Well we can fire this up again if you all want. But ultimately America is not 'the whole rest of the world' - and nor is the so called 'red Mid West States of the United states of America.' The majority of the rest of the world does tend to view Bush as a bungling buffoon.

I don't quite follow the logic either that the 'dumber' more moronic someone sounds, the obviously better he must be at doing his job. I mean I have met a lot of very smart people in my life - mainly in the field of science - and generally my impression has been that the smarter someone sounds, the more likely they are to know what they are talking about - and the better they are likely to be at doing their jobs.

I mean if only the really dumb sounding people were good at doing their jobs, then why wasn't it the guy who glued some wings together with chewing gum and jumped off the barn roof who made it into the history books? Why if we should always trust the dumb sounding people was it the Wright Brothers who made it instead?

The other impression that most people have is that Bush is largely just a puppet. What you see as an ability to make 'good decisions' is really a result of the assistance given to him by his advisiors - and it is the people behind these advisors who are really responsible for pulling the strings. Of course all presidents and leaders have their respective advisiors - however again the impression many people have is that the power of these advisors is disproportanate to Bush's ability to gauge the validity of the advice they are giving him. That is to say that there is a distinct feeling that the power these advisors have has never been as great as it is now - and that this is a highly dangerous and undemocratic state of affairs. It gives a truly terrible impression of America if the US - the most powerful nation on Earth - is seen to have no real head - and is being run by forces that are effectively operating beyond any form of democratic control.

You also confuse 'doing good' with what a lot of other people commonly see as doing bad. Sure the US has contributed a lot to world aid programs - but it is not always as disproportionate as you might think. If you look at figures for per head of population things start to look a lot more interesting.... But in any case that isn't the point - we have had that debate many times here before too - so maybe you might want to look through previous posts before dragging through all this again. The real point is that what you see as 'good works' often seems very distorted to people on the outside looking in. You say Iraq is a 'good work' comparable to perhaps the money Bush granted to Africa to fight aids - but really that is something that not that many people really agree with. You don't see armed forces in Uganda gaurding young couples by their beds threatening to shoot them if they don't use a condom when they make love - but you do see Americans in Iraq threatening to shoot everyone if they don't accept 'democracy'. I don't think really genuine assistance can come on the end of a gun - it just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Maybe if the people you were 'helping' actually asked for that help - or would be likely to welcome you, then I could see some merit in it - but just to charge in there without caring what the people think or want is I feel more than a little misguided.. Perhaps in Mid West America where the gun culture is most prevalent it might make some kind of sense to you - but externally to most others it does seem pretty warped.

The point is anyway that what you view as all good work is not viewd that way by everyone. I don't know if it is impossible culturally to make you see that - but really people do make distinctions between what they see as the good things America does and the bad things America does. To a lot of other people in the world, what America does isn't all good. Right now the wider impression is that the all negative things America has done are very much outweighing all the good things.

In any case no one is trying to run your country. If America insists on involving itself in the affairs of the world (allbeit in a negative way ATM) then you must be prepared for the fact that the world will have a view on this. Other people beyond your borders do matter. As far as I know, no one has appointed you Gods - and no one is about to any time soon.

Moreover how exactly do you people 'measure IQ'? Clearly your own perception of this is highly clouded by the simple fact that you do not like John Kerry or Bill Clinton. But not liking someone is no real gauge of intelligence. For example I can say that I do not think John Kerry was by any means an ideal democratic candidate - that he may have been a little thin on some areas of policy - but I can still believe he had a realtively high IQ. You people like to point to accademic records too as if this was any direct measure of IQ - but I personally could point you to several examples of some very famous scientists who did really quite poorly at school - but who later went on to make some of the most profound discoveries known to man. So how exactly do you guage this? Clearly the only real way to guage this is by what a man does AND what he says. If we apply this logic to Bush - a great many people feel that many of the things he has done have certainly not been the work of a misunderstood and somewhat inelloquent genious. Far from it indeed. If his biggest achievement has been Iraq (since it surely can't be the ecconomy) then this undoubtedly leaves much to be desired.

Anyway it's late and I'm tierd. The point of this thread was it was supposed to be funny - and much of it is - indeed some of Bush's utterances are just plumb hilarious - but the bottom line is that no matter whether you think Bush is a genious or not - that is not the impression he gives. Also 99% of the people who voted for Bush are not 99% of all Americans. There is still 49% of Americans who did not vote for Bush, which means that the country and the world at large, remains pretty much as divided as ever.

GJ

nitrousoxide52

God I love bushisms so much......

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nitrousoxide52

He may he may not, but there are 2 sure truths about John Kerry and Bush.
John Kerry looks like herman munster and Bush looks like a monkey!!!!!!

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