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Old Mar 12, 2005, 08:22 PM   #1
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Student ID Badges Raise Privacy Questions

If you thought it's bad enough large bills $5 and up have a kind of tracking in them
welcome to your worst nightmare

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WASHINGTON — A pilot program that used radio frequency ID badges to take attendance at a small California school may have failed, but the founder of the company that provided the technology says this isn’t the end of what could be a forward trend in American schools.
“We have gotten a lot of interest from other school districts, because of the media, and from other industries too,” said Doug Ahlers, a partner in InCom Corporation. The company worked with Brittan Elementary School in Sutter, Calif., in January to deploy badges fashioned with radio frequency identification technology to help take attendance for the school’s seventh and eighth graders.

Every child in the school, grades kindergarten through 12, received an ID badge with a tiny tag carrying the RFID technology, which was activated only to take attendance when the older children entered their classrooms. The “reader,” a device mounted at the door, would read the student’s assigned number contained in the tag and register the child's presence that day, said Ahlers, who is a teacher at the high school in Sutter.

The idea came from Michael Dobson, a former student of Sutter schools, who was 21 years old when he co-founded InCom two years ago. “He knew teachers struggled with attendance and he knew how easy it was for students to get around it,” said Ahlers.

this is the same RFID tracking the places like Wal-Mart are incorporating into products! And clothing to track what you buy etc… and to track you….

Some futuristic plans for grocery stores (I have seen story on TV) you products being rung up from you cart! using the technology and you pay by credit... like a store with 90% less employees.. just stockers and a couple security personnel at the registers...

What’s next? Implants that track you every where you go? Well there are plans for being able to pay with a RFID like device implanted in your thumb! Or hand….

I think a lot of people have no idea how dangerous to your privacy, freedom, jobs; etc... This technology has some serious implications. I men at some point we’ll be like tagged animal tracked every where we go and everything we do...

They been putting chips in card that allow the cards to be tracked, doors to be unlocked remotely, even the car disabled! Etc.., and chips that record information like how fast they where going, when they braked all kind of information that can be used against them if there is an accident

These tech’s have a good uses but their far more abuses of the same tech that will be going on…
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Why is everyone afraid of RFID badges?

THey already have enough cameras and tracking stuff in cell phones and credit cards to know where you are....might as well make something USEFUL along the line, like no-touch checkout or easy school attendance.

Not like you can't take the badge off anyways....
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Why is everyone afraid of RFID badges?

THey already have enough cameras and tracking stuff in cell phones and credit cards to know where you are....might as well make something USEFUL along the line, like no-touch checkout or easy school attendance.

Not like you can't take the badge off anyways....
No but over time it will be in everything includeing embeded inside you...
maybe even non voeltairly.. I mean they could make a mandatory ID system...

the goverment and private citizen able to monitor your every move should
anyone choose to...? so basically you'd have zero privacy in one area...
you can garentte everyone and i mean everyone will be able to acess that information

now add to that that constant addition or cameras and microphones installed all over the place there goes your other privacy... I mean would you like it if anyw\one where free to spy on you? tap you phones, record you etc... a great threat of abuse and mis use...

it gives the government more and more control and power or over you....
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Lol, so basically you would get a 'cookie' wherever you go?

It may be a way down the line, but it is possible I guess. That is always the danger of giving a government too much power.

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