The Fourth Reich !

Ubergrendle · May 16, 2005, 07:12 PM

I think Godwin just had a heart attack reading this thread. :|

PoopyTheJ · May 16, 2005, 07:42 PM

The fourth Reich is here waiting in the wings, don;t believe me look up Rex 84, or Operation Urban Warrior, here's some interesting reading......

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990

allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995

allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997

allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998

allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999

allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000

allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001

allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002

designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003

allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004

allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005

allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051

specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310

grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049

assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921

allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis." FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate the...

National Security Act of 1947

allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities.

1950 Defense Production Act

gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy.

Act of August 29, 1916

authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to take possession of any transportation system for transporting troops, material, or any other purpose related to the emergency.

International Emergency Economic Powers Act

enables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national. These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979.

Falstaff · May 16, 2005, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captn

Well Im not sure there is much of a difference today between a Demican or a Replublocrat. Bush keeps pushing homeland security yet he lets 1,000's of illegal immagrants cross the border from Mexico dailey & thats not to mention CAFTA! I honestly think jeff it doesnt really matter who you vote for anymore. I mean I voted for Bush but hes been a dissapointment thus far in this 2nd term. Alot of illegals sucking the teet of that great cow....hehe

I was at Ft. Huachuca recently and the next step is to virtually guard ther border with drones and soldiers, we are using tethered balloons and satellites now. Pres. Vincente Fox is aware of the problem. Our biggest problem are sancturary cities like Denver or Los Angeles California where law enforcement is helpless to stem the tide of criminal aliens. I dont advocate this, but some Americans want to set up machine gun nests and dead zones along the border where they cross the most and eliminate the problem with force.
The fact of the matter is, regardless of who is president, we have an overwhelming number of undocumented aliens sucking our services dry, they are sending their american dollars home and draining our infrastructure. Years of tolerance towards illegal immigration and the Hollywood spin against it have made the subject unpopular with local governments.

pr0digal jenius · May 16, 2005, 07:48 PM

there's other scary EOs too if you dig hard enough Drew...lol.

PoopyTheJ · May 16, 2005, 08:33 PM

Hell yeah there are, scary laws too like the appropriately misnamed USA PATRIOT Act

pr0digal jenius · May 16, 2005, 09:24 PM

Look up some of the crap Roosevelt passed during the new deal and WWII

Pompey · May 17, 2005, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Our immature minds can't. Does your immature mind see the logic in violating people in sweatshops in order to get our shoes, shirts, pants, socks, underwear? Do you understand we hold political and a military force in our country so you can have imported fruits and chocolate cheaply?

Our generation has turned a blind eye and let the government run loose and only give a damn when we see it in the News.

If you want to condemn the government for violating human rights, then I suggest you stop supporting the violation and only buy stuff made in the USA because then you're no better than the government.

So how does military and political force in your country affect fruit and chocolate in my country? A lot of the fruit our own country cant produce comes from the pacific Islands. Most chocolate I eat is made in NZ. This is not a stab at your country but frankly apart from some hersheys american chocolate is crap.
A lot of my cloths are made in NZ also. I avoid any cloths made in sweatshops but I do have some nike and adidas cloths. I remember seeing a pair of "Genuine american leather boots" with that little made in china label on the bottom. I would hazard a guess that a lot of the clothing factories in the US employ illegal immigrants.
I still fail to see how me buying stuff made in the US would somehow condemn the US government’s actions.

Sandok · May 21, 2005, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pompey

apart from some hersheys american chocolate is crap.

Living in the country of chocolate (CH) has made me see that... Only swiss chocolate is good

Try lindt if you can find it and ur hooked

Captn · May 24, 2005, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fallang_jeff

I dont advocate this, but some Americans want to set up machine gun nests and dead zones along the border where they cross the most and eliminate the problem with force.

Bring on the machine guns

May 16, 2005, 07:12 PM	#61
Ubergrendle Semper ubi sub ubi Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 702 Rep Power: 51	I think Godwin just had a heart attack reading this thread. :\| __________________ Veteran of the PC Microchannel / EISA wars of the late 1980s.

May 16, 2005, 07:42 PM	#62
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	The fourth Reich is here waiting in the wings, don;t believe me look up Rex 84, or Operation Urban Warrior, here's some interesting reading...... EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways. EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period. EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis." FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate the... National Security Act of 1947 allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities. 1950 Defense Production Act gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy. Act of August 29, 1916 authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to take possession of any transportation system for transporting troops, material, or any other purpose related to the emergency. International Emergency Economic Powers Act enables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national. These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979. __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

May 16, 2005, 08:33 PM	#65
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 66	Hell yeah there are, scary laws too like the appropriately misnamed USA PATRIOT Act __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

May 16, 2005, 07:48 PM	#64
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	there's other scary EOs too if you dig hard enough Drew...lol.

May 16, 2005, 09:24 PM	#66
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	Look up some of the crap Roosevelt passed during the new deal and WWII