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Another Republican Scandal in the Bush Administration.
Well gee.. looky looky at this. Bushs "closest" advisor in scandal, man this is just too funny.
Quotes From Globe & Mail: After denying for two years that Mr. Rove had anything to do with disclosing the identity of CIA agent Valerie Plame, the White House is now facing acute embarrassment over publication of an e-mail that shows Mr. Rove did just that in a conversation with a reporter for Time magazine. Mr. McClellan, the White House spokesman, later said that suggestions Mr. Rove was the source of the leak were "ridiculous." "If anyone in this administration was involved in it, they would no longer be in this administration," he added. Lmao we shall see.. we shall see simpy stunning.
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Personally, I don't think it's a Republican or Democratic issue. Rove, party withstanding, F'd apparently was the "leak". If, after the investigation is completed, he's found guilty, then President Bush SHOULD fire him, again, regardless of party affiliation, patronage, loyalty, etc. To me, that would show the "Resolve" that both Pres. Bush and PM Blaire both speak so highly of. Resolve to be honest and clear-cut in their decisions. Honor and character are individual traits, not party handouts. It's a shame someone as far up the political food chain could make this big of a foul up. One would think that as soon as the story broke, almost 2 yrs. ago, that Mr. Rove would've had the character and integrity to stand up for his loose lips. Maybe then it wouldn't have been the media circus issue it's become.
Oh, yeah. What ever happened to Sandy Berger? The guy who had "top secret" documents magically fall down in his underware in the National Vault. He was about the equivelent to Clinton that Rove is to Bush. Wonder if people that high in politics always get free rides. Kev |
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I thought it was hilarious that a Time reporter would use such a terminology as "double super secret". I wonder what the NYT's reporter's source is? It doesn't seem to be Carl Rove.
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what I find extremely hilarious is that someone just got sent to jail for basically the same reason.. Quote:
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utter absolute bullshit....come on Damage..you can do better than this...
You wanna bash Bush or Drove I could care less, but at least establish perspective.... and that means from the left and the right of the information highway... Seems there is more scatalogical references to bad reporting from the left side..... nuff said
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* Her husbands own website mentions her as a member of the CIA
So if any one outed her he did * She works a desk job at a CIA headquarters Langley (a dead give away) So you can greatee she was known my many as an agent of the us goverment no big secret. I sure many forgien goverments knew LOL' was married to a public figure in the government * Attended dinners at the white house, including photos the publicity "whole nine yards" of her at the events and her name of her galore. So much for bing under any cover being so high profile that would be like president bush being "under cover" LOL' * His wife recommended him to be sent over to investigate the yellow cake innocent. Not a secret... Interesting considering a panel later found oposite to his findings...Funny he was a poor choice and cleanerly "anti war" before iraq. Karl Rove has done nothing wrong and there is NO case other then this poltical tabliod show the liberal media and democrats are putting on... Chances anything will happen? he more likely to get hit by a car then be found guilty, It neraly impossable to prove. * He would have to have goten her name from a classified source this must be proveable, isn't *He would have to have knew she was undercover and intentially leaked her name.this must be proveable isn't *She not been over seas in 5 years! again does not meet the statute
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Blown completely out of proportion and in light of all the Democratic scandels, a tempest in a teapot
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I am suspect of any source of information except FOX news and even that is biased towards the right..
The economy of the USA and its growth are worthy issues... at least you didnt mention the f*&king BBC......LOL
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peace bro
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The same one that won't say they referd to the terrorists as terriosts, But will only call them "bombers" and claim that europeans aren't terroised just americans . Sucide bombers blowing thier people up I'm supirzed the didn't jut go a head and call them freedom fighters . Thier people have surly been terrorized.... Really cheesy stuff
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When Clinton said "I did not have sex with that women" because he ridiculously did not consider the oral variety as "sex", conservatives went apesh!t: "he lied to the public", "he demeaned the integrity of the presidency", "he parsed words and spoke half-truths" (all paraphrases but the point is clear). Now, when its one of their heros, magically, all of those things are forgotten and its "well Rove committed no crime", "its the liberal media" and a witchhunt. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! And, of course, the sheeple will just follow along to the Fox news/White House talking points. Hippocrites. Ferd- |
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Contradictory??? You don't see a difference between a technical "lie" and honesty? Saying something that is untrue is a lie. Saying something that is technically true but does not provide all of the needed information and therefore conveys the same impression upon the listener that a lie would is not honest. That is exactly what Clinton did and he was crucified for it as well he should have been. There is a huge difference and perhaps if more people stopped relying on technicalities as a substitute to real good morals, we would all be better off. We should all demand better of our leaders in every circumstance and regardless of our politics. Just don't be selective with to whom it applies. Undermines your argument substantially. Ferd- |
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I hate Bush and his Administration, they are a bunch of self gratifying, egotistical fools who think that the rules apply to everyone else but themselves, among many other things. He (Rove) blatenly lied to the American people and I'd like to see Rove punished for his lie and his involvment in this specific situation but do you think that will happen.. not likely. We are not talking about just some person off the street or for that matter a journalist who decided to keep her mouth shut instead of leading the Americans astray with bullsh!t or misconceptions, we are talking about Bushs "closest political advisor" here.. this will get brushed off just like the fools brushed off the "we KNOW there are weapons of mass destruction.. or Saddam Hussein is fueling and funding the Al Qaeda" or maybe.. "it was to liberate the Iraqi people.." If you want to hold onto and agree with Bush and his policies then by all means you go right ahead, thats your choice. Oh and just because your so highly intelligent and up to date on how and what's going on with this specific topic.. its Karl Rove.. not Carl Rove.. lmao
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cmon guys.. you've been hanging around forever.. hurry up with the posts, I want too see some funny sh!t.
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That's my point about this, if it was anybody outside of the Bush admin you wouldn't be all ready to hang him, changing positions based on the affiliation of the person.
If it wasn't Karl Rove then you wouldn't care, but since it is you get all giddy about it since it's something that you can say "See I was always right about the Bush administration" Quote:
But since you want to play this 'game' we'll play "Bushs "closest" advisor in scandal" it's Bush's not Bushs "simpy stunning. [img]images/smilies/big%20grin.gif[/img]" it's simply not simpy "he surronds himself with people of the same calibre.." it's surrounds not surronds Everybody either misspells or typos, the fact that you even got started on this 'game' is beyond me. I've not met one person that could spell my name correctly in 'real life' either. If you got a problem with how I view your position fine, but the fact that I put a C instead of K for a name does not even matter as anything significant. Just as your and my typos doesn't matter as anything significant as long as it is understandable what is meant.
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I come on she wanted to play politics and hide benath cover?
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investigate.Then reporter simply fallowed up from there and put two and two together. Considering her and her husband is so HIGH profile. It would be like trying to make Bush a “covert agent”. I mean come unless their covert opting a retard farm they would find out who she was. I mean the high profile wife of a high profile ambassador? Besides the Whitehouse dinners photos and all things the under cover agent WOULD NEVER DO! Because you supposed to keep a low profile! Hell she hasn’t even been over seas in 5 years and has a desk job at Langley. Wtf would she have been working undercover on? Besides at her husband’ lol The case doesn’t fit the statute so… Nothing will happen… Acroding to the way i'm hearing it He didn't reviel or know her name, so your twisting what was said into something to fit you anti bush agendas. Quote:
You can also grant if he had oral sex he did “a lot” more then that. You’d think Clinton is a total sleaze ball if you’d watched the Clinton chronicles you wonder how in gods green earth he ran for office. That and when you factor in his wife water gate etc… ubber scandle. If you believe the film he was the “dirtiest” president in US history. But in it self was enough to bring him into question. I'm just gald the Clintons finally, shut up! thier months haven't closed since he left office. Democrats are just sore losers consideing the got burned last ellection.
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missed a letter or 2.. I didn't actually spell someones name wrong.. Try not take it too seriously there buddy. Yes i'm sure we have all made simple spelling mistakes.. so take it easy there tonto.. lmao
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Oh your the most funny person in the world...
on topic: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050715/D8BBJCL00.html
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Someone else use to instill fear " to control his nation and brainwash them.. he was called Adolph Hitler. Hitler didn't have the media to help.. Bush does.
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Hmm you really are the funniest man on Earth
, read my post for what I said.
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Try being a little more specific Gab.. wow.
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She was trying overtly pull politcal strings from behind a "curtan" Would you rather he LIED about who sent her husband over?. ---- Was not a covert agent at the time she was written about says her husband. She wanted him to check out the crazy report that saddom is trying to build a nuke. Basically she sent her anti war husaband (as is she) is debunk the claims. He did so and later a panel found just the opposite to his findings ....... More information is in.... Her previous /old supervisor at the CIA says "not a big deal", "No magor reprocutions to her cover being blown" no lives in danger etc... She went over seas under "verry light non offical cover" when she wa her like all CIA operative she was under a basic cover. Her friends,family, and nieghbors knew she was a CIA agent They never should of sent her husband to niger it was a bad idea they should of sent a CIA spook. ............ She wanted to play politics from behind a curtain you just CAN't do that. ............ washinton times confirms carl row was second source was asked a question by a jernalist and answerd "I herd that too" , Row 1st learned of her name from reporters It was also ben said said Carl row is already in the clear but Democrats will not let the topic die and are beating a dead horse Quote:
You relying on the same media news and print for your information as well and you know it. The same stuff you calling a load of bull your shoveling in your mouth at an unpresidented rate . If you don't go by what the media says, what do you do just make stuff up as you go along, come to baseless positions, just based on your hate of the bush administation? Becouse with out the media sources you'd not even know there was an issue!!! Liiitle lone have an idea of the situation and what is going on. Except you probubly useing differn't sources and they all spin it one one or another. Keep in mind normally the media in the US can't print "squwat" with out at least 2 viable sources!
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