French Military!!!!

pr0digal jenius · Sep 28, 2005, 06:53 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe...hip/index.html

they DO exist!

Sandok · Sep 28, 2005, 06:54 PM

Oh stop it with the sterotypical stuff... Americans wouldn't be here without the french.

Vikingod · Sep 28, 2005, 07:02 PM

and the other way around

Dark Lord · Sep 28, 2005, 07:05 PM

so they do exist. i always thought they were one of the many mythical creatures.

pr0digal jenius · Sep 28, 2005, 07:15 PM

lol....i'm just kidding guys, I've been to France, and it's a lovely country...so don't take this the wrong way.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/victories.html

goes along with that

SFOSOK · Sep 28, 2005, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pr0digal jenius

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe...hip/index.html

they DO exist!

They may exist but they certainly are the worst in the world at their job.

Sandok · Sep 28, 2005, 07:21 PM

The GIGN are good.. And well, you guys ain't doing much better in Iraq

LeanWolf · Sep 28, 2005, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFOSOK

They may exist but they certainly are the worst in the world at their job.

i see this sinking to a political discussion...

Master Shake · Sep 28, 2005, 07:47 PM

I don't think anyone should be talking shit about the French military. Look at how the Americans are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan and how stretched out the entire military is. The Northern Alliance basically fought the entire ground war and we've got guys systematically torturing people in Iraq. From what I've read the French have an advanced military and well trained soldiers. Just because the Nazis invaded in WWII doesn't mean they can't defend themselves. Do people think that Russia and all the other countries that got invaded are weaklings too?

SFOSOK · Sep 28, 2005, 07:47 PM

Depends on who pov ur lookin through. Liberal media, we are doing bad. Most soldiers stand points, we are kicking their ass. I've got quite a few friends and my brother was over there. All agree that we are not really doin that shabby and there isn't much to do about roadside bombs and suicide bombers.

And I think the only reason you may even know about the GIGN is from the the very first CS....hmmm maybe?

I think every special forces and black ops team (who are allied with Israel) should train there for 6 month periods participating in everythign their SF does. Israel has the best covert ops teams because they always have something to do, their job never lets up and every able man must serve in the millitary of the country. SAS are good but not as good as what Israel has. GIGN may fit somewhere in there but I don't really want to find French news, may get my hands dirty in the process.

Well, considering we don't lose that much and France has pretty much lost almost every single war and most battles (excluding Napoleon's time) they created their own self-image. They curse us when they can get a chance then when they get their asses handed to them they suddenly love us. Its very sad how ungrateful some of the country is. Without us, I'm sure France would be part of Germany right now.

Edit: Russia did do something though, they beat the living crap out of Germany. Britian did also. What did France do? pretty much nothing but become a playground. They should try to be like Japan and invest all their money in something productive (only thing I can think of in France is tourism) and not waste any money on a standing army. Its like adding things on to a broken toy, you could add arms, legs, and clothes but it still does not change the fact it is broken and not worth shit.

Master Shake · Sep 28, 2005, 07:52 PM

Israel is extremely good at just about anything it does.

I didn't mean that the US soldier isn't well trained, I think they're great. I just think the whole plan wasn't very good to begin with and there wasn't enough people for an occupation and a lot of times ill-equipped. Look at how many soldiers Great Britain had in Northern Ireland and how many people Israel had in Gaza. I think the ratio there was 4 soldiers to one person. You can't replace people with technology. Sure, you can blast the hell out of someone with it, but you can't rebuild a country or enforce any kind of law.

SFOSOK · Sep 28, 2005, 07:57 PM

I don't think it was as bad as people made it seem to be. I think it was just about the same this time as in DS with former Bush. The only thing is Americans have gotten considerably more whiny and the media has more power while becoming more liberal.

Edit: I just read the article right now and they stormed a private ship (probably with all their forces). Looks like those troops are really bored out of their mind. Any other articles conscerning French Millitary? I wonder when they have fought for humanity as a whole and not to preserve themselves. Hmmm.

Master Shake · Sep 28, 2005, 07:58 PM

I know. We are doing a great job and I'm glad all of those pesky bombings, attacks and murders stopped.

pr0digal jenius · Sep 28, 2005, 08:00 PM

this was all meant to be humor...but by all means...discuss away

SFOSOK · Sep 28, 2005, 08:06 PM

I do agree that we sohuld have been able to declare war on the fact that Sadam has commited a large Genocide on the Kurds to gain more support, but I think there were other factors that the US gov new about that was not released or even thought of by the nation as a whole. Blame has gotta be put somewhere so might as well blame the republicans, seemed to have worked before. What I hated was waking up and flipping the channel to ABC (I hate ABC) and them telling the american people how much of a complete disaster the war effort was. I remember also when one of their news coorespondents was airing false documents in order to hurt president Bush in the election.

But back to what I was sayin before. If France wants to have an Amry, they better not dick around anymore and defend more than just their country.

Master Shake · Sep 28, 2005, 08:10 PM

They've got a pretty decent one. They really built a nice one after WWII and during the Cold War. I'm sure they didn't take getting invaded twice lightly. :-)

**temeteus82** · Sep 28, 2005, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SFOSOK

Edit: Russia did do something though, they beat the living crap out of Germany. Britian did also. What did France do? pretty much nothing but become a playground. They should try to be like Japan and invest all their money in something productive (only thing I can think of in France is tourism) and not waste any money on a standing army. Its like adding things on to a broken toy, you could add arms, legs, and clothes but it still does not change the fact it is broken and not worth shit.

Yeah, and REMEMBER that Russia attacked us in WWII! That lead us to bee allies with Germany, reason US & UK didn't want to piss Russia of.... So in the end we had to fight against Russia and Germany! And by the way your ski troops were the model for USA's mountain troops ....

Flexkill · Sep 28, 2005, 11:14 PM

LMAO...."French Army"........LMAO...you guys slay me....."French Army".....LMAO...Oh god, good one guys

Ev!L-aLphA · Sep 28, 2005, 11:29 PM

americas army is OVERRATED... every one expects it to be like made of super men or something

SFOSOK · Sep 29, 2005, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ev!L-aLphA

americas army is OVERRATED... every one expects it to be like made of super men or something

Well now you should try to prove that you are not a moron.

Have you ever been in the millitary?

Ever done any millitary training?

How many people do you know that are actually in the millitary?

How many people do you know that have actually seen combat?

Have you ever seen your best friend die right next you in Battle outside of a videogame?

Have you ever seen anyone die for that matter?

Though I can't say I have I don't act like the millitary is overated and I don't act like its easy shit.

At 16 I was training for SF, 17 I was ready for Rangers and met min requirements for SF. I have trained with Ex-SF, Ex-Infantry, Ex-Marine, Ex-Force Recon, Ex-Scout Sniper, and current soldiers of the US army and a SWAT officer also.

Even then I know I don't know shit about the millitary. Because I haven't been there, I haven't done it.

So when did you decide the right that you knew how soldiers felt?

If its so easy, go join SF right now. Go join SEALS. Go join Recon.

The men and women who defend our country deserve more than our respect but that is the least you can do for them. When you call Our army overrated you disrespect all those men and women who figh or have fought for our country.

As I understand, Roadee is in your sig. I don't k now him but he was in the Millitary correct?

So before you try to blurt out first thought that comes into your brain when the lettering is still computing think about who you are disrespecting. Maybe you should think about Roadee.

The reason I believe the French millitary is a joke? because of their countries policies not their Army itself. I respect any man or woman who serves their country, and you should also.

I still can't believe how dumb some people are.

Though my training was not anywhere near as hard as the millitary (unfortunately) I could only expect that it is hard than anything anyone could ever experience in their life.

Fact: the US millitary is the #1 fighting force in the entire world.

Go home and watch your liberal television, with your raised truck, your teeny bopper ho bag gf, and all you punk preppy moronic buddy who like to jerk each other off blind folded.

I'm tired of ignorence, hopefully you may learn from what I have said.

(Good thing this is in the debate section or I may get banned [still may actually])

Never forget our fallen heroes, and remember the ones that are still fighting.

Pompey · Sep 29, 2005, 09:29 AM

I think were being a little harsh on the French.
They had a strong underground resistance during WWII and are very effective when fighting terrorism apparently.
The French are hosts not soldiers by nature, which is why they host an invasion so well.

SFOSOK · Sep 29, 2005, 09:35 AM

Good point

NUCLEARWINTER · Sep 29, 2005, 05:08 PM

hey france, thanks for the statue, but how about a lil more support with the things going on today?

Ubergrendle · Sep 29, 2005, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by NUCLEARWINTER

hey france, thanks for the statue, but how about a lil more support with the things going on today?

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2764

Stop listening to Foxnews... intelligence circles in the US *know* that France is _the_ world leader in anti-terrorist counter intellignece, and treats the arabic-fundamentalist threat very seriously. They experienced this in Algeria years before anyone else and have much more experience in this regard.

In a similar way to Indochina / Vietnam, France was there first and suffered greviously...but the US didn't learn from their example. Now the US is knee-deep in Iraq similarly to the way France was stuck in Algeria years before.

For a nation of 60million people, with an economy less than that of California, France's modern army is very capable. No one can compete with the US, and the US has the right to be proud of its armed forces.

SFOSOK · Sep 29, 2005, 06:30 PM

well, if you think about it, the US millitary is really the only real great thing we got. More money goes into that than anything else, and most of our knew technology was needed at one point or another on the battlefield.

Master Shake · Sep 29, 2005, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ubergrendle

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2764

Stop listening to Foxnews... intelligence circles in the US *know* that France is _the_ world leader in anti-terrorist counter intellignece, and treats the arabic-fundamentalist threat very seriously. They experienced this in Algeria years before anyone else and have much more experience in this regard.

In a similar way to Indochina / Vietnam, France was there first and suffered greviously...but the US didn't learn from their example. Now the US is knee-deep in Iraq similarly to the way France was stuck in Algeria years before.

For a nation of 60million people, with an economy less than that of California, France's modern army is very capable. No one can compete with the US, and the US has the right to be proud of its armed forces.

Amen. I'm glad someone here knows what they're talking about. I don't understand why everyone thinks the France is such a weakling. They are one of our greatest allies and have a strong military.

Rasta Monsta · Sep 29, 2005, 07:26 PM

Interesting...

rasta

P.S. Don't forget to click the "Did you mean" link!

**temeteus82** · Sep 29, 2005, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasta Monsta

Interesting...

rasta

Nice ....

SFOSOK · Sep 29, 2005, 07:41 PM

jeez man, now thats what I was looking for. I should put that as my desktop

SexPistoL · Sep 29, 2005, 08:46 PM

Obviously no bias in there what so ever............hehe

Sep 28, 2005, 07:05 PM	#4
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 125 System Specs	so they do exist. i always thought they were one of the many mythical creatures. __________________

Sep 28, 2005, 07:47 PM	#10
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	Depends on who pov ur lookin through. Liberal media, we are doing bad. Most soldiers stand points, we are kicking their ass. I've got quite a few friends and my brother was over there. All agree that we are not really doin that shabby and there isn't much to do about roadside bombs and suicide bombers. And I think the only reason you may even know about the GIGN is from the the very first CS....hmmm maybe? I think every special forces and black ops team (who are allied with Israel) should train there for 6 month periods participating in everythign their SF does. Israel has the best covert ops teams because they always have something to do, their job never lets up and every able man must serve in the millitary of the country. SAS are good but not as good as what Israel has. GIGN may fit somewhere in there but I don't really want to find French news, may get my hands dirty in the process. Well, considering we don't lose that much and France has pretty much lost almost every single war and most battles (excluding Napoleon's time) they created their own self-image. They curse us when they can get a chance then when they get their asses handed to them they suddenly love us. Its very sad how ungrateful some of the country is. Without us, I'm sure France would be part of Germany right now. Edit: Russia did do something though, they beat the living crap out of Germany. Britian did also. What did France do? pretty much nothing but become a playground. They should try to be like Japan and invest all their money in something productive (only thing I can think of in France is tourism) and not waste any money on a standing army. Its like adding things on to a broken toy, you could add arms, legs, and clothes but it still does not change the fact it is broken and not worth shit. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!! Last edited by SFOSOK; Sep 28, 2005 at 07:55 PM.

Sep 28, 2005, 07:57 PM	#12
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	I don't think it was as bad as people made it seem to be. I think it was just about the same this time as in DS with former Bush. The only thing is Americans have gotten considerably more whiny and the media has more power while becoming more liberal. Edit: I just read the article right now and they stormed a private ship (probably with all their forces). Looks like those troops are really bored out of their mind. Any other articles conscerning French Millitary? I wonder when they have fought for humanity as a whole and not to preserve themselves. Hmmm. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Sep 28, 2005, 08:06 PM	#15
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	I do agree that we sohuld have been able to declare war on the fact that Sadam has commited a large Genocide on the Kurds to gain more support, but I think there were other factors that the US gov new about that was not released or even thought of by the nation as a whole. Blame has gotta be put somewhere so might as well blame the republicans, seemed to have worked before. What I hated was waking up and flipping the channel to ABC (I hate ABC) and them telling the american people how much of a complete disaster the war effort was. I remember also when one of their news coorespondents was airing false documents in order to hurt president Bush in the election. But back to what I was sayin before. If France wants to have an Amry, they better not dick around anymore and defend more than just their country. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Sep 28, 2005, 11:14 PM	#18
Flexkill DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Nashville, TN. Music City USA Posts: 285 Rep Power: 0	LMAO...."French Army"........LMAO...you guys slay me....."French Army".....LMAO...Oh god, good one guys __________________

Sep 28, 2005, 06:53 PM	#1
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	French Military!!!! http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe...hip/index.html they DO exist!

Sep 28, 2005, 06:54 PM	#2
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	Oh stop it with the sterotypical stuff... Americans wouldn't be here without the french.

Sep 28, 2005, 07:02 PM	#3
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	and the other way around

Sep 28, 2005, 07:15 PM	Thread Starter #5
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	lol....i'm just kidding guys, I've been to France, and it's a lovely country...so don't take this the wrong way. http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/victories.html goes along with that

Sep 28, 2005, 07:21 PM	#7
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	The GIGN are good.. And well, you guys ain't doing much better in Iraq

Sep 28, 2005, 07:47 PM	#9
Master Shake DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 310 Rep Power: 0	I don't think anyone should be talking shit about the French military. Look at how the Americans are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan and how stretched out the entire military is. The Northern Alliance basically fought the entire ground war and we've got guys systematically torturing people in Iraq. From what I've read the French have an advanced military and well trained soldiers. Just because the Nazis invaded in WWII doesn't mean they can't defend themselves. Do people think that Russia and all the other countries that got invaded are weaklings too?

Sep 28, 2005, 07:52 PM	#11
Master Shake DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 310 Rep Power: 0	Israel is extremely good at just about anything it does. I didn't mean that the US soldier isn't well trained, I think they're great. I just think the whole plan wasn't very good to begin with and there wasn't enough people for an occupation and a lot of times ill-equipped. Look at how many soldiers Great Britain had in Northern Ireland and how many people Israel had in Gaza. I think the ratio there was 4 soldiers to one person. You can't replace people with technology. Sure, you can blast the hell out of someone with it, but you can't rebuild a country or enforce any kind of law.

Sep 28, 2005, 07:58 PM	#13
Master Shake DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 310 Rep Power: 0	I know. We are doing a great job and I'm glad all of those pesky bombings, attacks and murders stopped.

Sep 28, 2005, 08:00 PM	Thread Starter #14
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	this was all meant to be humor...but by all means...discuss away

Sep 28, 2005, 08:10 PM	#16
Master Shake DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 310 Rep Power: 0	They've got a pretty decent one. They really built a nice one after WWII and during the Cold War. I'm sure they didn't take getting invaded twice lightly. :-)

Sep 28, 2005, 11:29 PM	#19
Ev!L-aLphA \| n f e c t e D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,111 Rep Power: 0	americas army is OVERRATED... every one expects it to be like made of super men or something __________________ R.I.P 8/8/04 4/21/08

Sep 29, 2005, 09:29 AM	#21
Pompey DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 362 Rep Power: 0	I think were being a little harsh on the French. They had a strong underground resistance during WWII and are very effective when fighting terrorism apparently. The French are hosts not soldiers by nature, which is why they host an invasion so well. __________________ One's inability to find an answer to a question does not imply that the question has no answer.

Sep 29, 2005, 09:35 AM	#22
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	Good point __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Sep 29, 2005, 05:08 PM	#23
NUCLEARWINTER Reap What You Sow. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 1,135 Rep Power: 65 System Specs	hey france, thanks for the statue, but how about a lil more support with the things going on today? __________________ insert witty comment here!

Sep 29, 2005, 06:30 PM	#25
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	well, if you think about it, the US millitary is really the only real great thing we got. More money goes into that than anything else, and most of our knew technology was needed at one point or another on the battlefield. __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Sep 29, 2005, 07:41 PM	#29
SFOSOK 939 Goin Strong Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 7,033 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	jeez man, now thats what I was looking for. I should put that as my desktop __________________ Warning - Explicit Content Preceeding METAL!!

Sep 29, 2005, 08:46 PM	#30
SexPistoL DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UK Posts: 604 Rep Power: 0	Obviously no bias in there what so ever............hehe __________________