I Shouldn't Have Done That

kinetic · Dec 31, 2002, 04:00 PM

Ever done something that you regretted in later life?

Donald Rumsfeld has http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/com...55E401,00.html

BTW this is not a political rant, most governments are up to their necks in this sort of shit

Zarathustra · Dec 31, 2002, 07:35 PM

Oh WTF I hope to god that's not true!

Mac Daddy · Jan 3, 2003, 02:48 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by kinetic
[B]Ever done something that you regretted in later life?

Donald Rumsfeld has http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/com...55E401,00.html

Whew, lets hope not, that would be very disturbing

mbeeston · Jan 3, 2003, 03:00 AM

=/DEATH TO HIM! hah to the us

DallasStar · Jan 3, 2003, 03:20 AM

I can't believe you guys are surprised.

DownTime · Jan 4, 2003, 10:13 PM

Its fact of life... Everyone does it unfortunatly, but, the U.S does play a big factor of distributing arms and money to the 3rd world countires for their own needs. Its only a matter of time that it comes back and bites them in the ass.

Sad, but, no one can do anything about it...

JavaFox · Jan 4, 2003, 10:25 PM

Of course that happened, but I don't see why this is bad, really. The US's stance on foreign policy has always been "choose the lesser of the two evils." And, frankly, at the time, the bigger threat WAS crazy, fundementalist Islamic regimes. Iraq is a secular regime, and while Saddam did bad things, he considered less of a threat and an enemy than Iran. Remember, Iran, held Americans hostage. That tends not to endear you to us.

JavaFox · Jan 4, 2003, 10:28 PM

By the way, little known fact: did you guys know Rumsfeld used to own MILLIONS of dollars in Nvidia stock?

kinetic · Jan 4, 2003, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JavaFox
By the way, little known fact: did you guys know Rumsfeld used to own MILLIONS of dollars in Nvidia stock?

Used to

What did he do with them?

kinetic · Jan 4, 2003, 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by JavaFox
Of course that happened, but I don't see why this is bad, really. The US's stance on foreign policy has always been "choose the lesser of the two evils." And, frankly, at the time, the bigger threat WAS crazy, fundementalist Islamic regimes. Iraq is a secular regime, and while Saddam did bad things, he considered less of a threat and an enemy than Iran. Remember, Iran, held Americans hostage. That tends not to endear you to us.

Like I said Java, I wasn't surprised by this article but the trouble with these sorts of weapons is that they are very indiscriminate. There is nothing SMART about a chemical or biological attack and many innocent civilians have died as a result. Indeed, Saddam has used these weapons on his own people so I don't think he would hesitate to use them in a war with the US and Britain.

JavaFox · Jan 5, 2003, 07:04 AM

Kinetic, he sold them. Stocks like that put him at risk for conflict-of-interest. Wouldn't it be suspicious, say, if Nvidia was awarded a Department of Defense contract? That's why. Not saying Rumsfeld WOULD do something like that, but he had to ditch the stocks just so couldn't even be accused of impropriety.

kinetic · Jan 5, 2003, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JavaFox
Kinetic, he sold them. Stocks like that put him at risk for conflict-of-interest. Wouldn't it be suspicious, say, if Nvidia was awarded a Department of Defense contract? That's why. Not saying Rumsfeld WOULD do something like that, but he had to ditch the stocks just so couldn't even be accused of impropriety.

Sorry Java, I should have realised! It's been a long day!
This sort of thing rears its head in the U.K from time to time and several government officials have been made to squirm due to their interests in large companies.

Mac Daddy · Jan 5, 2003, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JavaFox
Kinetic, he sold them. Stocks like that put him at risk for conflict-of-interest. Wouldn't it be suspicious, say, if Nvidia was awarded a Department of Defense contract? That's why. Not saying Rumsfeld WOULD do something like that, but he had to ditch the stocks just so couldn't even be accused of impropriety.

Hmm, to avoid a Clinton situation. Same deal "Conflict of Interest"
Very Smart of him to do so.

I have to say I wasn't surprised either about the statement, just concerned. Chemical and Biological Weapons as far as I'm concerned, should be used on the Crackheads who wanted or invented them. Serve no purpose, just harm innocent people.

Being Canadian, we are too involved in recent World events
Too some extent, mostly trying to help out our American friends.
Keep in mind DH members from the U.S., just because I'm Canadian, doesn't mean I didn't loose a good friend on 911, A buddy I went to college with, who worked in the Trade Centers.
And I also live right across Lake Ontario from New York City, On Sept 13th,2001, I could see and taste ash and concrete dust in the air from my 4th floor apartment facing L.O. Small World.

Iran, Iraq, and the situation with North Korea, are issues I am greatly concerned with at the moment.
I for one support the fact that something needs to be done, these Terrorist groups have no value for human life, even their own.

I hope George Bush Jr, handles this as well as his father, he was a military man, as my father was.

Of course the Senior Bush, was shit on, After what I consider a great handling of the Gulf War, well I guess we all need a Scapegoat don't we

Sorry to ramble, Just my Two cents

Dec 31, 2002, 04:00 PM	#1
kinetic DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester England Posts: 2,559 Rep Power: 0	I Shouldn't Have Done That Ever done something that you regretted in later life? Donald Rumsfeld has http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/com...55E401,00.html BTW this is not a political rant, most governments are up to their necks in this sort of shit Last edited by kinetic; Dec 31, 2002 at 04:59 PM.

Jan 3, 2003, 02:48 AM	#3
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 79 System Specs	Re: I Shouldn't Have Done That [QUOTE]Originally posted by kinetic [B]Ever done something that you regretted in later life? Donald Rumsfeld has http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/com...55E401,00.html Whew, lets hope not, that would be very disturbing __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

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mbeeston HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: alberta, canada (thats north of the usa people) Posts: 1,037 Rep Power: 68 System Specs	=/DEATH TO HIM! hah to the us __________________ R.I.P Roadee - you will be missed T_T peace,love, and war... 3 things people look for... "if your going off the deep end, show off, do a cannon ball!" - me

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DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	I can't believe you guys are surprised. __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Dec 31, 2002, 07:35 PM	#2
Zarathustra Elite Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Confederacy Posts: 841 Rep Power: 0	Oh WTF I hope to god that's not true!

Jan 4, 2003, 10:13 PM	#6
DownTime DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	Its fact of life... Everyone does it unfortunatly, but, the U.S does play a big factor of distributing arms and money to the 3rd world countires for their own needs. Its only a matter of time that it comes back and bites them in the ass. Sad, but, no one can do anything about it...

Jan 4, 2003, 10:25 PM	#7
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	Of course that happened, but I don't see why this is bad, really. The US's stance on foreign policy has always been "choose the lesser of the two evils." And, frankly, at the time, the bigger threat WAS crazy, fundementalist Islamic regimes. Iraq is a secular regime, and while Saddam did bad things, he considered less of a threat and an enemy than Iran. Remember, Iran, held Americans hostage. That tends not to endear you to us.

Jan 4, 2003, 10:28 PM	#8
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	By the way, little known fact: did you guys know Rumsfeld used to own MILLIONS of dollars in Nvidia stock?

Jan 5, 2003, 07:04 AM	#11
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	Kinetic, he sold them. Stocks like that put him at risk for conflict-of-interest. Wouldn't it be suspicious, say, if Nvidia was awarded a Department of Defense contract? That's why. Not saying Rumsfeld WOULD do something like that, but he had to ditch the stocks just so couldn't even be accused of impropriety.