digerati

Source: http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/new...p?storyid=5184

Sandok

That country, from being an upstanding and modern country has gone barbaric and as bad as you can be!

SFOSOK

Should have invaded sooner. Kill those sick f*ckers I say

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TJ-

Well every country is barbaric in its own way, let them live their lives and do what they want.

How many people did the USA execute this year?

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TJ-

fuckin pussies.

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Sandok

Totally!

But still, the US and Iran are very different and if you even start to compare them, then I just pity you.

TJ-

we are all human, we are all the same, greedy, money grabbing scum that will do anything to survive.

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SFOSOK

Sure you can say certain things they do have to do with their religion, but sayin that hanging an 18 yr old girl for defending her and her neice from being raped is just plain moronic. I don't give a shit what religion you have or government, who ever made that decision should have been hanged themselves.

They aren't barabaric, just f*ckin stupid.

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Pompey

Considering the culture, im surprised the family haven’t killed her for dishonouring them.

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OmegaRED

A year ago I'd say 'not another Iraq' but these days it almost seems necessary to take care of Iran.

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Alien1

You should stick to your own business and the problems of your own country

These people and these countries are ancient
they have a cruel law system since ancient times these is not new
especially with women as it happens with most Asian countries anyway and not only in Iran

but you are not Jesus Crist either

They exist with their cruel ways before your ancestors kill all the native true Indian Americans and call your country USA...and call yourself an American today

Every country has it's costums from law to ethics even if you find them right or wrong

but you are not here to play the role of God and judge other countries and punish them with an act of war because you find their ways cruel and stupid

Sandok

Just so you know, Iran was one of the most develloped arab countries with perfect rights for women. Now,after their islmaic revolution, they kill for no reason.

Sure maybe invasion ain't right but they are not that old and who cares? A life is a life. My country is MUCH older than the arabian countries and we don't do these sorta things so your arguement is worthless.

The_Neon_Cowboy

well they ellected a known terrorist and extemeist as thier leader,
I'm not suprized by anything they do...

They need to get nukes al right, just not they way they wanted

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Alien1

Perfect rights ?!?
Nice joke

Do you know what a burga and a yashmak is and why women in there must wear it neccesary most of the times (it's not a optional woman accessory)

Middle East-Asian Countries woman rights are few and basic and these is nothing new if you take it from their history perspective and that not only in Iran

Why you care so much about Iran and about these specific people only and why not all other Asian countries as well which also suffers from these ??

Just because the Usa president Bush and his Republic lackies say it so and try to prove them how bad they are in every way for their interests in these specific country only....

A life is a life
So what ?? You care so much ??

Why only << save >> Iran and not all other Asian countries as well then or the African and South American countries as well from the drug lords and the weapon barons and the dictators that live in there

they exist before in Iran islam "evil" revolution and Usa has done nothing about these all these years

You care so much about fighting "the evil" in other countries right ??
So do a world a favour and not only for Iran...

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I was talking about USA not your country
Are you from USA or are you not ??

Is USA older from the Arabian countries History ??

Sorry but your speech is pointless

Sandok

I'm talking about Iran BEFORE the islamic revolution... Maybe you are too young to know about that, google would ya?

And no, I'm not from the US, I'm from one of the most ancient civs in the world...

SFOSOK

Yeah Alien, what country are you from? Have you ever even lived in the US? Visited? How bout Iran?

If the answer is no, shut the f*ck up

Even if the answers is yes to any of those the same advice goes for ya. This is not a Bush bashing thread, this is to talk about this poor girl who will be hung for defending herself and her cousin from being raped.

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Sandok

Maybe we should try to rape him and let him get hanged... I'm sure he'll love the "ancient and older than US laws"...

Ass

SFOSOK

First I was goin to say sounds like a plan, then after I though bout it I would have to get stabbed in the chest while trying to rape him. So no thanks, but I tihnk he see's the point now...

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Grace

Frankly, I haven't ever been at Iran, but I have been in the US and many Arabic countries, and whether you like it or not I liked the Arabic countries more myself. And I am a woman. The majority of the Arabs lack certain personality features which I don't find appealing and are quite nice folks.

Finally, Iran is an Islamic country. Whether you like it or not she is going to be judged by Islamic law, and she is judged for murder. I don't say that it is right to do so, actually I despise even the idea of it, but you cannot make them Christians because you are one, and certainly not by bombing them. And trust me, if someone decides to bomb them, it certainly won't be because of that poor girl or any other poor girl, there is no war if there is no profit. It is not like anyone actually CARES about the people.


If you want to see what the meaning of 'barbaric' is, get to be a girl walking in Hollywood or Las Vegas alone at night, or walk in a movies store and check the 'pink' section movies. How many of those girls end up in dustbins? How many people die in your country because of gang wars, drugs and other 'modern' activities? Have you ever check how many people die in US by 'unnatural symptoms'? The true war is right at our doorstep, most just didn't notice that.

If you consider Islam barbaric, then what do you consider this comment to be?

War is not a game. Of course you think it is, since you aren't going to get anywhere close to it to begin with and Iran or any other of these countries not nearly has the power and resources to fight back. If you fought a real war, yourself, with your leaders safe back home, your friends getting killed around you and you getting shot at all the time, your opinion would be 'slightly' different. There is no excuse for war, and war is far more barbaric than anything else. And all war is, is about money and power. There is no other excuse. There never was.

If you want to do something for the good of the world, first try to improve yourself and your own country. Your own people die because of drugs, crime and God knows what else. Instead of caring to bomb some Muslims at the other end of the world, try getting that drug dealer selling 'dust' at the corner of your street arrested. Your very child can die because of that person, no matter how much you want to believe that this won't happen to you.

Also, people of which their countries still endorse the death sentence are INSTANTLY banned from this debate.
ESPECIALLY Christian countries. (Read the 6th commandment, at least Islam does not have one of these)

Sorry if I stepped on any toes, but I wanted to voice my opinion. I don't have much time so please excuse me if I won't reply to anyone anytime soon, I am not usually checking such threads.

Razgriz

in my opinion from personal experience in iraq: War is hell, nothing glitzy about it like hollywood. Being covered in blood, or your squadmates brains is not, in any way,shape, or form, my idea of a good time.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

"If you want peace, prepare for war"

SFOSOK

Who said war was a game? I think some things are worth fighting and dieing for.

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Sandok

For the millionth time, I don't live in the US There are no such things as ghettos here, this tiny country I live in is as peaceful and neutral as you can get. Sure, it's no better but I find destroying ancient artifacts, condeming women because they are women and like in Paki, throwing acid on a woman's face because her family doesn't have enough downpayment WAY more barbaric than what goes on in the US. You think drugs don't affect muslim countries? Please, from my tiny life, and from the things I've seen, in this current world, wherever religion is taken to the letter, we have the worst form of barbaric societies imaginable. Religion belongs for many in todays world and no problem with that (good values and all) but just because the Koran says women are worthless doesn't mean that protecting yourself from rape is bad.... If you believe that's worst than the hoes of Hollywood, then I don't know what to say.

And sure, not all are barbaric but if you look at Iran of the past and Iran of the present, there has been a huge downfall...

I don't find your comments wrong, but I do think that some countries aren't reacting properly (like my countries mortal ennemy, Pakistan... The stories ... And I do know about that country since my grandpa lived there before it was a muslim state!)

Grace

I know Sandok, I never said you did.

There is no comparison between any countries. I can find way more horrible things to mention than 'throwing acid on a woman's face' happening in 'modern' countries. And yes, I do not like any religion taken to the letter, because that is no religion, it is fanaticism.

Funnily, I thought that drugs are a mortal crime in Arabic and some Communist countries. They aren't even allowed to drink wine. If they try dealing with Heroine, they end up dead before Heroine kills them. I cannot say that I visited every Arab country on the world though.

As I said, I do not agree with many of the Islamic 'customs' and 'laws', but I am not about to bomb and kill them because of that. There are many countries that I can name which could use bombing if that is so.


PS. Yes, I consider the situation at Hollywood and such areas of the world considerably out of control.

Especially when the 'dying' part does not affect you directly.

If there is anything worth fighting and dying for, find it in your own town, or country if you want to expand that much. There are many things that you can fight for all around yourself.

Getting to finish a good college and become a respectful adult is one of them and a very worthy one for example.

SFOSOK

Of course it affects me, people should not be in the millitary if they are not prepared to die for their country or someone elses agenda. I have a br owho was in Infantry and another who is Army SS. I will probably also be leaving if my Fiance and I don't get back together because that was my purpose before I met her and it seems it still is. I don't mind dieing for my country or someone elses agenda, otherwise I would not go.

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digerati

My best friend is currently serving in the Army and I almost joined the Navy except I came to the realization my recruiter was about to lie to his superiors to get me in since I have detailed history with asthma. I cannot entrust myself to that kind of dishonesty. For me I wouldn't deem this barbaric but more inhumane. Being barbaric means they lack the mental concept to know anything besides murder and plunder. These people believe they are doing right, and I think there needs to be an Islamic reformation before something more tragic happens.

SFOSOK

I had asthma, still do. It used to be really bad until I ran until I would pass out, that fixed it.

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digerati

My asthma is a thing of the past now but it was still life crippling for many years, and any history of it is enough to deny you admission intot he armed forces.

Sandok

Agreed, I'd never bomb a country just for that... No I'm not like that at all but I will and am voicing my displeasure.

And the thing is in CH, we don't have these kinda probs as in the bigger countries... I mean, I don't live in the US and never heard of any problems in Hollywood but I guess it's kept quiet out of the country?

SFOSOK

Yes I know but there is no way for them to tell if you had it or not, they ask and such and try to intimidate you at MEPS but its just a bunch of talk. The only problem I could see with the asthma is the CS gas chamber or maybe running for a while if you haven't gotten over it.

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