Do you know what H.264 is?

Zardon · Mar 28, 2006, 09:04 PM

do you?

Sandok · Mar 28, 2006, 09:28 PM

sooo... what is it?

I know roughly but honestly, it's just sorta beyond me

Vikingod · Mar 28, 2006, 09:36 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong...

Its a new video codec, otherwise known as MPEG-4 (part 10), that allows for further compression of video at higher resolutions. Meaning you get better video quality with less size. Can't really spout off the technical stuff, but thats about the jest I think.

germanjulian · Mar 28, 2006, 10:10 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264

IvanV · Mar 28, 2006, 10:56 PM

I read an article about it recently, so I know what it is (a new MPEG-4 video codec), but I can't really tell if all the fuss that ATi, nVidia and a bunch of other companies are making is really justified.

ivan300 · Mar 29, 2006, 01:03 AM

new codec that is used in .ts hdtv streams

LeanWolf · Mar 29, 2006, 01:15 AM

Ok I know now

germanjulian · Mar 29, 2006, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IvanV

I read an article about it recently, so I know what it is (a new MPEG-4 video codec), but I can't really tell if all the fuss that ATi, nVidia and a bunch of other companies are making is really justified.

its the new standart for everything video.. All TV, all internet video, all HD DVD stuff, even on mobile devices.
thats why hardware decoding is so important since it would be very cpu intensive.hardware decoding is a must for slow devices.
whoever does it cheapest and best will get loads of deals for PC, mobile devices, TV and DVD recorders and decoders/players etc.

lot of money to be made.

~~trodas~~ · Mar 29, 2006, 11:19 AM

h.264 rules in terms of image quality and it is a new standard for the hi-bitrate and h-resolutions HDTV play and it is very important that the nVidia pure video filters support it as with HW decoding, since it is impossible to be decoded with CPU, when come to full HDTV stream and customer (not extreme overclockers) range of CPU's

PS. I love the image quality

Pluvious · Mar 29, 2006, 07:57 PM

What a strange poll. Once you read the thread you know what it is.. >yawn<

Asmoday · Mar 29, 2006, 09:49 PM

Now i know...

***Veridian3*** · Mar 29, 2006, 10:03 PM

your ipod and PSP use it also...

phantommenace2 · Mar 29, 2006, 10:25 PM

Quicktime 7 uses it....

...it's a codec which supposedly improves picture quality greatly

what prize do I get?

Falstaff · Mar 30, 2006, 04:53 PM

Oh yea....
more techie stuff...LOL

niceguyrichy · Mar 30, 2006, 07:03 PM

I knew it was some kind of a codec, but I honestly don't know it's significance

you're gonna tell us though, right?

kingfurball · Mar 31, 2006, 04:23 AM

I have seen some of its use in proprietary VOIP phones with built in video, leading to a confusing but accurate acronym of Video Over Internet Protocol. This is were I believe that some of the most interesting and ground breaking facets will come from. Full (NTSC/PAL or SECAM) television broadcasts compressed to an amount smaller then their DIVX counterparts, while retaining almost all of their image quality. I have done some coding (mostly in Linux to keep it open source) and the protocol is amazing with its video conferencing ability and I do not believe that television both today's standard and Hi-Def can be far behind.

swimtech · Apr 2, 2006, 01:08 AM

A protocol for encoding video digitally. Note that H.264 is not the content, but is used to encode the content for storage or transmission and is very flexible.

Mr X · Apr 2, 2006, 03:46 AM

A new video codec, some of my recent video downloads are in that format... man did that took me a while to figure out.

Personally I still perfer the old & trusty Divx & Xvid format over this new one. Much less CPU usage and I personally can't tell that much of a difference in quality between a good quality Divxs/Xvids with a good quality H.264.

Also H.264 doesn't play on my chinese DVD player

, but Divx & Xvids does

CDsDontBurn · Apr 2, 2006, 04:36 AM

i just heard about it

|2A|N · Apr 6, 2006, 01:04 AM

What i want to know is who actually created it...

blown503 · Apr 6, 2006, 02:00 AM

Its a milepost

blown503 · Apr 6, 2006, 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |2A|N

What i want to know is who actually created it...

Mpeg LA? I think.

H.264 is now mandatory for the HD-DVD and Blu-ray specifications so was it them who invented it?

Ossakaram · Apr 7, 2006, 03:42 AM

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Ossakaram · Apr 7, 2006, 03:50 AM

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*Avivo Guru* · Apr 7, 2006, 04:19 PM

Yup, it's a next generation video compression standard. Basically, it's much more efficient at compressing video, but it makes it more difficult to encode/decode. That's where ATI comes in with our hardware accelerated decode

Gnerma · Apr 8, 2006, 03:50 AM

Hello AVIVO Guru! Would you mind answering a few questions I have about ATi's AVC acceleration on X1000 parts? *quickly & quietly shackles his leg to a column, locks the door, then turns the hot lamps on*

First off, if the acceleration is shader based why don't we see a larger performance gain when going from a single quad part like the X1300 to a X1900 which of course has a much, much more shader power? Is the AVIVO team working to improve the performance of ATi's AVC acceleration even further? Also, will you be working with other codec developers such as corecodec to make the acceleration available through their AVC decoders?

For others reading AVC = h264 although it's a slightly broader term.

Mar 28, 2006, 09:04 PM	#1
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Mar 28, 2006, 10:56 PM	#5
IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,921 Rep Power: 336 System Specs	I read an article about it recently, so I know what it is (a new MPEG-4 video codec), but I can't really tell if all the fuss that ATi, nVidia and a bunch of other companies are making is really justified. __________________ If anyone has Portal 2 and hasn't played the co-op and wants to do me a favour, let me know (PM me or whatever).

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Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,318 Rep Power: 0	What a strange poll. Once you read the thread you know what it is.. >yawn< __________________

Mar 28, 2006, 09:28 PM	#2
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	sooo... what is it? I know roughly but honestly, it's just sorta beyond me

Mar 28, 2006, 09:36 PM	#3
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	Correct me if I'm wrong... Its a new video codec, otherwise known as MPEG-4 (part 10), that allows for further compression of video at higher resolutions. Meaning you get better video quality with less size. Can't really spout off the technical stuff, but thats about the jest I think.

Mar 29, 2006, 01:03 AM	#6
ivan300 Booooo Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Vancouver Bc Posts: 236 Rep Power: 0	new codec that is used in .ts hdtv streams

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~~trodas~~ fanless WC Opty 3GHz Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Czech republic Posts: 349 Rep Power: 0	h.264 rules in terms of image quality and it is a new standard for the hi-bitrate and h-resolutions HDTV play and it is very important that the nVidia pure video filters support it as with HW decoding, since it is impossible to be decoded with CPU, when come to full HDTV stream and customer (not extreme overclockers) range of CPU's PS. I love the image quality

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*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 5,028 Rep Power: 182	your ipod and PSP use it also...

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phantommenace2 hexa-core gamer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York City Posts: 266 Rep Power: 52 System Specs	Quicktime 7 uses it.... ...it's a codec which supposedly improves picture quality greatly what prize do I get?

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kingfurball DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	I have seen some of its use in proprietary VOIP phones with built in video, leading to a confusing but accurate acronym of Video Over Internet Protocol. This is were I believe that some of the most interesting and ground breaking facets will come from. Full (NTSC/PAL or SECAM) television broadcasts compressed to an amount smaller then their DIVX counterparts, while retaining almost all of their image quality. I have done some coding (mostly in Linux to keep it open source) and the protocol is amazing with its video conferencing ability and I do not believe that television both today's standard and Hi-Def can be far behind.

Apr 2, 2006, 01:08 AM	#17
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	A protocol for encoding video digitally. Note that H.264 is not the content, but is used to encode the content for storage or transmission and is very flexible. __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

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Mr X DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	A new video codec, some of my recent video downloads are in that format... man did that took me a while to figure out. Personally I still perfer the old & trusty Divx & Xvid format over this new one. Much less CPU usage and I personally can't tell that much of a difference in quality between a good quality Divxs/Xvids with a good quality H.264. Also H.264 doesn't play on my chinese DVD player , but Divx & Xvids does __________________ 3.2EGhz P4, Zalman CNPS7000 Al/Cu cpu cooler,[color=#1c4d84] [/color]ECS 865PE-A motherboard, 2x512Mb PC3200 generic Ram, X850XT video card (stock), Realtek ALC 655 onboard audio, 200Gb Segate SATA HD & 40Gb Maxtor PATA HD, 8x8 Liteon DVD-Rewriter & 16x LG DVD drive, TT Soprano case + 430w generic PSU, 17" generic CRT + generic k/board & mouse.

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Apr 7, 2006, 04:19 PM	#25
Avivo Guru DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Yup, it's a next generation video compression standard. Basically, it's much more efficient at compressing video, but it makes it more difficult to encode/decode. That's where ATI comes in with our hardware accelerated decode

Apr 8, 2006, 03:50 AM	#26
Gnerma Avatar limits = SPAM Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	Hello AVIVO Guru! Would you mind answering a few questions I have about ATi's AVC acceleration on X1000 parts? quickly & quietly shackles his leg to a column, locks the door, then turns the hot lamps on First off, if the acceleration is shader based why don't we see a larger performance gain when going from a single quad part like the X1300 to a X1900 which of course has a much, much more shader power? Is the AVIVO team working to improve the performance of ATi's AVC acceleration even further? Also, will you be working with other codec developers such as corecodec to make the acceleration available through their AVC decoders? For others reading AVC = h264 although it's a slightly broader term. __________________ I disable sigs at Driver Heaven. Why? Because your huge ugly sig image irritates me