AMD buying ATI ?

LHC · Jul 28, 2006, 01:55 AM

I hope everything goes well, and I hope they release great products in the long run

I just hope that 5 years from now there won't be annoying as hell commercials that play at least 50 times each hour:

"Dr. Meyer, what have been the benefits of the merger between AMD and ATI?"

*looks at watch* "Get in."

dsdsdk · Jul 28, 2006, 02:34 AM

like BWX, i've heard that ATI will be branded as AMD...

ronnn · Jul 28, 2006, 05:44 AM

I voted that I "think" it is a bad idea. With my knowledge of finances and computer parts - thinking is often a bad idea. So am hoping it works out well, though I am a bit allergic to corporations getting even bigger.

Zardon · Jul 30, 2006, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dsdsdk

like BWX, i've heard that ATI will be branded as AMD...

Read this

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/dhinterviews/joncarvill/

Driver Heaven: Is the long term strategy to operate as one company or two? For example, will gfx still continue to be designed in ATI's existing facilities and CPU's on AMD's or should we expect to see a merging of engineers/designers where everyone provides expertise on forthcoming products?

Jon Carvill: The merged company will operate as AMD once the transaction close. ATI will continue to manufacture its graphics processors with TSMC and UMC. AMD is very comfortable with a hybrid approach to manufacturing as evidenced by our recent success in ramping microprocessor production at Chartered Semiconductor. Certainly, we anticipate that this merger will present new and exciting ways for our engineers to collaborate in areas like mobile, commercial, digital media and emerging markets.

Blazer · Jul 30, 2006, 04:07 AM

Well it sure makes my upgrade options muddled. I was going to get a new motherboard/cpu/graphics card/memory, but now I have no idea what to purchase except for the memory. (which video card will be supported by which chipset manufacturer, what is the best price/performance ratio per cpu, etc)

swimtech · Jul 30, 2006, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Blazer

Well it sure makes my upgrade options muddled. I was going to get a new motherboard/cpu/graphics card/memory, but now I have no idea what to purchase except for the memory. (which video card will be supported by which chipset manufacturer, what is the best price/performance ratio per cpu, etc)

Considering the release timelines of chipsets, GPUs, and so forth from the past - we (as users and builders) probably won't even have to start to think about those kinds of issues for a year or so. The entire CPU and GPU industries have already got their products lined up for the coming year and need to implement them to keep the cash flowing...

CDsDontBurn · Jul 30, 2006, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BWX

AMD

it was supposed to be a joke

CDsDontBurn · Jul 30, 2006, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Blazer

Well it sure makes my upgrade options muddled. I was going to get a new motherboard/cpu/graphics card/memory, but now I have no idea what to purchase except for the memory. (which video card will be supported by which chipset manufacturer, what is the best price/performance ratio per cpu, etc)

if all goes well, i plan on upgrading in early spring (shortly after Vista is launched). ATM, i have my eyes set on the conroe and by then, the 8 series nVidia cards should be released. i'll even go as far as getting Vista for the benefits of DX10.

GeneralClaymore · Jul 31, 2006, 12:41 AM

I dont care about it, as long AMD dont change ATI cards around, to AMD Radeon or something heh.

Also ATI should beable to fix up there chipsets so we can have better ATI chipsets.

ZzzombieBunny · Jul 31, 2006, 06:21 PM

whats next, MacDonalds buying Pizza Hut?

TheBlackCat · Aug 1, 2006, 02:36 AM

Unlikely, Pizza Hut is already owned by the same company that owns Taco Bell, KFC, A&W, and Long John Silver's. That is probably a bit much for even McDonald's to stomache.

CDsDontBurn · Aug 1, 2006, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBlackCat

Unlikely, Pizza Hut is already owned by the same company that owns Taco Bell, KFC, A&W, and Long John Silver's. That is probably a bit much for even McDonald's to stomache.

and the company that owns all them is Pepsi Co. Coca-Cola owns McDonalds (or at least has a steak in it's company since it does provide McDees w/it's soda)

bug77 · Aug 1, 2006, 01:55 PM

There's really nothing good or bad about it. It all comes down to what happens next.

If it's a chance for ATi to continue their current line, than it will be bad (ATI hasn't had a solid mid-range line since Radeon 9500 days). If AMD steps in and imposes some changes, than it will be good.

Than again, I'm trying to remember when was the last time this kind of merger resulted into something good in the long run...

wee017 · Aug 2, 2006, 06:17 AM

I think that it's great business for AMD but nVidia lost a lot of business. I expect that AMD will direct all their efforts for compatibility with ATI. I am running on a AMD processor on an nVidia GPU, and I think its the best setup ever.. IMO bad for the customer, good for the company. It was gonna happen sooner or later..

Sonata · Aug 2, 2006, 01:20 PM

Good to see the positive comments making a comeback, in the beginning of this poll people didn't sound very enthusiastic about the merger idea!
Not that my crystal ball is giving me any real vision on this one.

bug77 · Aug 2, 2006, 04:46 PM

Ok, just thought of something: now that AMD makes its own chipsets again, maybe we'll see mobos that don't support overclocking for AMD too.

IamLakota · Aug 3, 2006, 02:09 PM

Just a thought I had this morning,Amd and Ati,..well ok but notice how the new Intel chippset's remind us of Nvidia,...ie,..Nvidia G6800/ intel E6800 seems to me that something was in the works in the shadows way back.Kinda of ironic that with the G6800
nvidia was takin over as the vid king and now intel is doing the same as the Processor King.

bug77 · Aug 3, 2006, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by IamLakota

Just a thought I had this morning,Amd and Ati,..well ok but notice how the new Intel chippset's remind us of Nvidia,...ie,..Nvidia G6800/ intel E6800 seems to me that something was in the works in the shadows way back.Kinda of ironic that with the G6800
nvidia was takin over as the vid king and now intel is doing the same as the Processor King.

Eh, Intel has been doing it for a while: they have both a CPU and a chipset with the name of 945

Pluvious · Aug 5, 2006, 07:22 PM

From the looks of recent testing of the Core 2 Duo.. AMD's merger with ATI is moot. Gamers are going to buy the Core 2 Duo.

kelticknight · Aug 5, 2006, 07:27 PM

dont like intel cpu as had bad experiences with them
time will tell how amd and ati will do together,both good companys,new products end of this year or early next year will shed some light

IamLakota · Aug 5, 2006, 09:40 PM

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From the looks of recent testing of the Core 2 Duo.. AMD's merger with ATI is moot. Gamers are going to buy the Core 2 Duo.

I think your right Pulvious.

Nforce2XP · Aug 5, 2006, 09:48 PM

I`m very exited, you should`nt be worried about this.
Remember Ati has always given us great stuff, and same as AMD, both has given us the best in technology, mergin together and thinking the same way: will give us their best and two heads thinks better than 1.

RIV@NVX · Aug 10, 2006, 11:29 PM

This can only be a good thing in many ways. Notably, there are already talks about opensourcing part of ATI's drivers, which is great.

Kahlos · Aug 13, 2006, 01:22 PM

I reckon that them joining forces will mean much better things from both companys. AMD can help with problems ATI has and vice versa. Also it means they could distribute the money where more work is needed. Unless Intel and Nvidia pair up this new partnership could mean no more Nvidia or Intel (even if it does sound unlikely). For the consumer this will mean that we should get much better deals and more competative pricing.

CDsDontBurn · Aug 13, 2006, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pluvious

From the looks of recent testing of the Core 2 Duo.. AMD's merger with ATI is moot. Gamers are going to buy the Core 2 Duo.

so you're saying that the money spent into ATI's buy-out would have best been spent into R&D of a new CPU that would be comparable or even better than Intel's Core 2 CPU?

if you are, then i'm with you on that.

NUCLEARWINTER · Aug 13, 2006, 02:08 PM

i wouldn't count out amd just yet. they have held the crown for quite some time now. and know how to keep it. i believe that intel just caught amd while am2 is stil in it's infancy. and all they really needed to do is get all the bugs out of DDR2.

dsdsdk · Aug 16, 2006, 08:38 PM

sorry i need to be frank... but when the hell has anything good come from two tech firms merging? Dont you all want 3dfx back??

BWX · Aug 16, 2006, 09:00 PM

I think this might be an exception.

StillKicking · Aug 27, 2006, 07:26 PM

I do alot old school systems for folks around these parts I always recommend nVidia for video and AMD for cpu they go together like family. nVidia drivers are easy to work with, you can take tnt nVidia 16mb and stick 70 series driver on it with no problem, now if that was ATI card forget it. don't get me wrong ATI has and is making some awesome cards!!! I love the graphics that ATI has produced, but things have to change I reckon. AMD was wanting Nvidia but they don't have the capital to purchase, nVidia has their hand into everything, we don't not see it but they do.

OLD SCHOOL - MSI NF2 Ultra W/Athlon 3200XP Barton Corsair 1gig BFG 6800 Ultra 256mb Maxtor 80 7200RPM LiteOn DVD Rewrite Combo all inside a LIAN LI PC 60 case

big_D · Sep 17, 2006, 12:00 PM

As an AMD/nVidia user, I'm in two minds about this. I mainly use Linux these days, so I'm hoping that AMD will be able to teach the ATi guys a thing or two about coding reliable drivers and providing support (currently if I go ATi I have to wait for anything up to a year after product release before they provide a 3D driver!

)

I've always thought that ATi produce interesting and powerful hardware, but their drivers usually let them down badly, I started with a Mach64 (unstable under Windows 3 and Windows 95), a All-In-Wonder128 (unstable under Windows 95/98), Radeon Mobility X800 (some problems with missing textures in games, but at least relatively stable under Windows, 3D support first available 8-9 months after purchase under Linux).

I'm hoping it will be a positive thing for ATi quality, but I hope it won't affect our choice too much... That said, I'm currently waiting for my new Intel Mac/nVidia graphics to turn up

Jul 28, 2006, 01:55 AM	#31
LHC Stingy and Stubborn Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,325 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I hope everything goes well, and I hope they release great products in the long run I just hope that 5 years from now there won't be annoying as hell commercials that play at least 50 times each hour: "Dr. Meyer, what have been the benefits of the merger between AMD and ATI?" looks at watch "Get in." __________________

Jul 28, 2006, 02:34 AM	#32
dsdsdk DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Denmark, CPH. Posts: 586 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	like BWX, i've heard that ATI will be branded as AMD... __________________ No more Kitty!

Jul 30, 2006, 04:07 AM	#35
Blazer Tweeker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kitchener Posts: 611 Rep Power: 61 System Specs	befuddled Well it sure makes my upgrade options muddled. I was going to get a new motherboard/cpu/graphics card/memory, but now I have no idea what to purchase except for the memory. (which video card will be supported by which chipset manufacturer, what is the best price/performance ratio per cpu, etc) __________________ ASUS Maximus Formula, OCZ 780MXS ps, Core2 Duo 8400 @ 3.80GHz,Corsair Water cooling kit, 4x2gb Mushkin DDR2 8000, 5 hardrives totalling 1.75 TB, Sapphire Theatrix, SyncMaster 2343, Logitech MX-518, 2 Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 Crossfired , running on Windows7 64 bit, all in an Antec P160w Case.

Jul 31, 2006, 12:41 AM	#39
GeneralClaymore HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: MI Posts: 431 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I dont care about it, as long AMD dont change ATI cards around, to AMD Radeon or something heh. Also ATI should beable to fix up there chipsets so we can have better ATI chipsets. __________________ Source: x-fi titanium hd 2x LME49720NA + 2x LME49710NA > Fiio E9(OPA2111AM)> DT880 pro 250ohm

Aug 1, 2006, 02:36 AM	#41
TheBlackCat DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Searching for the Candle in the Dark Posts: 567 Rep Power: 0	Unlikely, Pizza Hut is already owned by the same company that owns Taco Bell, KFC, A&W, and Long John Silver's. That is probably a bit much for even McDonald's to stomache. __________________ [color=#000000]There is always an easy solution to every human problem—neat, plausible and wrong.[/color] -H. L. Mencken

Jul 28, 2006, 05:44 AM	#33
ronnn DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 617 Rep Power: 0	I voted that I "think" it is a bad idea. With my knowledge of finances and computer parts - thinking is often a bad idea. So am hoping it works out well, though I am a bit allergic to corporations getting even bigger.

Jul 31, 2006, 06:21 PM	#40
ZzzombieBunny Cake or Death? Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 258 Rep Power: 0	whats next, MacDonalds buying Pizza Hut?

Aug 1, 2006, 01:55 PM	#43
bug77 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: around Posts: 792 Rep Power: 0	There's really nothing good or bad about it. It all comes down to what happens next. If it's a chance for ATi to continue their current line, than it will be bad (ATI hasn't had a solid mid-range line since Radeon 9500 days). If AMD steps in and imposes some changes, than it will be good. Than again, I'm trying to remember when was the last time this kind of merger resulted into something good in the long run...

Aug 2, 2006, 06:17 AM	#44
wee017 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Behind you. Posts: 241 Rep Power: 0	I think that it's great business for AMD but nVidia lost a lot of business. I expect that AMD will direct all their efforts for compatibility with ATI. I am running on a AMD processor on an nVidia GPU, and I think its the best setup ever.. IMO bad for the customer, good for the company. It was gonna happen sooner or later..

Aug 2, 2006, 01:20 PM	#45
Sonata DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hot as hell in summer Posts: 284 Rep Power: 0	Good to see the positive comments making a comeback, in the beginning of this poll people didn't sound very enthusiastic about the merger idea! Not that my crystal ball is giving me any real vision on this one.

Aug 2, 2006, 04:46 PM	#46
bug77 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: around Posts: 792 Rep Power: 0	Ok, just thought of something: now that AMD makes its own chipsets again, maybe we'll see mobos that don't support overclocking for AMD too.

Aug 3, 2006, 02:09 PM	#47
IamLakota HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Viriginia Posts: 552 Rep Power: 0	Just a thought I had this morning,Amd and Ati,..well ok but notice how the new Intel chippset's remind us of Nvidia,...ie,..Nvidia G6800/ intel E6800 seems to me that something was in the works in the shadows way back.Kinda of ironic that with the G6800 nvidia was takin over as the vid king and now intel is doing the same as the Processor King. __________________ Harley Davidson: If You Have To Ask You Wouldn't Understand!!! System Specs: Mobo:Asus P6T Deluxe V2,intel i7 920,2x BFG GTX 250 oc in SLI,Corsair 6gigs tri channel pc12800CL8 2xWD Velociraptor's 2x74gig WD Raptor , X-Fi Fatal1ty Titainium,HANNS-G HG281HD 1080p 28" monitor,Coolermaster HAF/922,PC-PWR&Cooling Sliencer 750,CoolerMaster V8 HSF

Aug 5, 2006, 07:22 PM	#49
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,318 Rep Power: 56	From the looks of recent testing of the Core 2 Duo.. AMD's merger with ATI is moot. Gamers are going to buy the Core 2 Duo. __________________

Aug 5, 2006, 07:27 PM	#50
kelticknight DriverHeaven Knight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: EIRE{great for black stuff ,bulmers cider and Munster rubgy Posts: 1,095 Rep Power: 0	dont like intel cpu as had bad experiences with them time will tell how amd and ati will do together,both good companys,new products end of this year or early next year will shed some light __________________

Aug 5, 2006, 09:48 PM	#52
Nforce2XP DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Los angeles Posts: 201 Rep Power: 0	I`m very exited, you should`nt be worried about this. Remember Ati has always given us great stuff, and same as AMD, both has given us the best in technology, mergin together and thinking the same way: will give us their best and two heads thinks better than 1. __________________ RES.T.A.R.S

Aug 10, 2006, 11:29 PM	#53
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 67 System Specs	This can only be a good thing in many ways. Notably, there are already talks about opensourcing part of ATI's drivers, which is great. __________________ -- Vedran

Aug 13, 2006, 01:22 PM	#54
Kahlos DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England, Cirencester Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	I reckon that them joining forces will mean much better things from both companys. AMD can help with problems ATI has and vice versa. Also it means they could distribute the money where more work is needed. Unless Intel and Nvidia pair up this new partnership could mean no more Nvidia or Intel (even if it does sound unlikely). For the consumer this will mean that we should get much better deals and more competative pricing.

Aug 13, 2006, 02:08 PM	#56
NUCLEARWINTER Reap What You Sow. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 1,133 Rep Power: 61 System Specs	i wouldn't count out amd just yet. they have held the crown for quite some time now. and know how to keep it. i believe that intel just caught amd while am2 is stil in it's infancy. and all they really needed to do is get all the bugs out of DDR2. __________________ insert witty comment here!

Aug 16, 2006, 08:38 PM	#57
dsdsdk DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Denmark, CPH. Posts: 586 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	sorry i need to be frank... but when the hell has anything good come from two tech firms merging? Dont you all want 3dfx back?? __________________ No more Kitty!

Aug 16, 2006, 09:00 PM	#58
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	I think this might be an exception. __________________

Aug 27, 2006, 07:26 PM	#59
StillKicking DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central Fl Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	I do alot old school systems for folks around these parts I always recommend nVidia for video and AMD for cpu they go together like family. nVidia drivers are easy to work with, you can take tnt nVidia 16mb and stick 70 series driver on it with no problem, now if that was ATI card forget it. don't get me wrong ATI has and is making some awesome cards!!! I love the graphics that ATI has produced, but things have to change I reckon. AMD was wanting Nvidia but they don't have the capital to purchase, nVidia has their hand into everything, we don't not see it but they do. OLD SCHOOL - MSI NF2 Ultra W/Athlon 3200XP Barton Corsair 1gig BFG 6800 Ultra 256mb Maxtor 80 7200RPM LiteOn DVD Rewrite Combo all inside a LIAN LI PC 60 case

Sep 17, 2006, 12:00 PM	#60
big_D DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: München, Germany Posts: 58 Rep Power: 0	As an AMD/nVidia user, I'm in two minds about this. I mainly use Linux these days, so I'm hoping that AMD will be able to teach the ATi guys a thing or two about coding reliable drivers and providing support (currently if I go ATi I have to wait for anything up to a year after product release before they provide a 3D driver! ) I've always thought that ATi produce interesting and powerful hardware, but their drivers usually let them down badly, I started with a Mach64 (unstable under Windows 3 and Windows 95), a All-In-Wonder128 (unstable under Windows 95/98), Radeon Mobility X800 (some problems with missing textures in games, but at least relatively stable under Windows, 3D support first available 8-9 months after purchase under Linux). I'm hoping it will be a positive thing for ATi quality, but I hope it won't affect our choice too much... That said, I'm currently waiting for my new Intel Mac/nVidia graphics to turn up