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Windows 7 RC1 Candidate
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Re: Windows 7 RC1 Candidate
I don't know much about 7, but so far it sounds more like a marketing trick to resell Vista with a few changes. Which is fine by me, I like Vista. worth upgrading to the final 7 from a Vista installation...I seriously doubt it.
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Re: Windows 7 RC1 Candidate
I chose, may be after a year or so I will change. I tried vista & 7 and got as many issues as hell , no way I am trying it any soon again.
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Started using it the day it became publicly available and for the most part it is fantastic.
A definite step up from Vista and unlike Vista is something I would likely recommend to people currently using XP. If anyone hasn't tried it yet I would certainly say that you should, the license gives you full access until March 2010 so it gives you plenty of time to get used to it and in my view is already far superior to Vista in every department.
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Re: Windows 7 RC1 Candidate
Im using Win 7 Right now... And i am actually surprised to how smooth everything is running so far.. considering the amount of time i have had to try it out.
I just have a couple of issues that may be sorted out in due course. Tom Clancy's Hawx and Fallout 3 has a slight stutter problem,but considering that i have only tried out 2 drivers since (185.81 Beta & 185.85 whql) future drivers may iron out this problem. Secondly on every second boot-up i have a USB Device is not recognized.Even though the devices connected are fully working. EDIT: i do think if you have vista and like the os Win 7 is worth a try.Just set up a dual boot system... Last edited by MIG-31; May 9, 2009 at 12:31 PM. |
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Re: Windows 7 RC1 Candidate
On some of my ancient hardware 7 runs okay, but some systems won't run it because of driver issues and those are my recording systems. It freaks out when it sees 2+ sound cards in one system and KX doesn't run with it.
I'm not going to buy it so when the RC runs out it will be removed. More of a "pretty toy" than an OS here.
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Re: Windows 7 RC1 Candidate
I haven't got the spare time to play with it but will have some soon
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Re: Windows 7 RC1 Candidate
Vista SP1 was a huge step for that OS and rectified a lot of the initial issues. With SP2 coming out for Vista I am sure we will see further improvements that are already addressed in Win7.
I think of Win7 as a re-release of Vista and it works damn good !! ![]() (I have been testing this since build 7000)
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had vista installed and win7 installed end of september of 08.... build i think 6839 or something like that....
haven't used vista on my machine since then.... not even bothered dual booting.
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Re: Windows 7 RC1 Candidate
No real poll option that fits my situation.
I'm currently using Vista with no problems, and don't have the motivation to mess around with a pre-release operating system outside of a virtual machine. I fully expect Windows 7 will be better than Vista, whether I upgrade to the final version on this system depends on how cheaply I can get it.
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PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert.
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Windows 7 been great for me no issue
on my p 4 2.66 with 1.5gigs of ram and HD2600 pro AGP 512meg card whats wierd windows 7 in DXDIAG reads I have Total memory of 754MB of video ram lol. ------------------System Information ------------------ Time of this report: 5/9/2009, 16:04:21 Machine name: ROBERT-PC Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit (6.1, Build 7100) (7100.winmain_win7rc.090421-1700) Language: English (Regional Setting: English) System Manufacturer: INTEL_ System Model: D865PCD_ BIOS: BIOS Date: 04/07/05 20:49:56 Ver: 08.00.10 Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz, ~2.7GHz Memory: 1536MB RAM Available OS Memory: 1534MB RAM Page File: 1052MB used, 2016MB available Windows Dir: E:\Windows DirectX Version: DirectX 11 DX Setup Parameters: Not found User DPI Setting: Using System DPI System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent) DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled DxDiag Version: 6.01.7100.0000 32bit Unicode ------------ DxDiag Notes ------------ Display Tab 1: The file atiumdag.dll,atidxx32.dll,atidxx64,atiumdva.cap,at iumd64,atiumd6a,atitmm64 is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer. Sound Tab 1: No problems found. Sound Tab 2: No problems found. Input Tab: No problems found. -------------------- DirectX Debug Levels -------------------- Direct3D: 0/4 (retail) DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail) DirectInput: 0/5 (retail) DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail) DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail) DirectSound: 0/5 (retail) DirectShow: 0/6 (retail) --------------- Display Devices --------------- Card name: ATI Radeon HD 2600 Series Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc. Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor AGP (0x9587) DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz) Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9587&SUBSYS_00281545&REV_00 Display Memory: 754 MB < How could this be? Dedicated Memory: 502 MB Shared Memory: 251 MB< wierd huh? Current Mode: 1280 x 720 (32 bit) (59Hz) Monitor Name: Generic Non-PnP Monitor Monitor Model: unknown Monitor Id: Native Mode: unknown Output Type: Component Video Driver Name: atiumdag.dll,atidxx32.dll,atidxx64,atiumdva.cap,at iumd64,atiumd6a,atitmm64 Driver File Version: 8.14.0010.0655 (English) Driver Version: 8.600.0.0 DDI Version: 10 Driver Model: WDDM 1.1 Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 3/16/2009 16:11:16, 3837440 bytes WHQL Logo'd: No WHQL Date Stamp: None Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D6C7-11CF-7A74-2220A1C2C535} Vendor ID: 0x1002 Device ID: 0x9587 SubSys ID: 0x00281545 Revision ID: 0x0000 Driver Strong Name: oem2.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTx86.6.0:ati2mtag_RV630:8.600.0. 0 Pci\ven_1002&dev_9587 Rank Of Driver: 00F62001 Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY {3C5323C1-6FB7-44F5-9081-056BF2EE449D}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {552C0DAD-CCBC-420B-83C8-74943CF9F1A6}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported DXVA-HD: Not Supported DDraw Status: Enabled D3D Status: Enabled AGP Status: Enabled Very funny it said sharing 251megs do you think it's sharing my RAM added to my video mem? I forget mention my card 601/405
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Re: Windows 7 RC1 Candidate
Got win7 RC here just trying to find the time to try it out.
Wonder if it'll have the same bug that I have to this day with vista ie every single time I try running an overclock on my system I have to make a call to MS to reactivate. That and that alone would be considered a major reason to upgrade for me LOL. |
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that's just bizarre to me.... having to reactivate..
considering i've never had to reactivate any copy of xp/vista YET even with changing the cpu/ram/video card or other accessories besides the hardrive and motherboard.
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F*&%in tell me about it dude, if I so much as take my Q6600 from 2.4ghz to 2.8ghz I have to phone microsoft to reactivate. It's the main reason I run my cpu stock, I really can't be arsed punching serial keys over and over into my phone keypad. Can you believe i've even had to reactivate after updating the bios on my striker2 formula. I know it sounds hard to believe but I'm happy for any local DH'ers to come verify it for me. It's an overclockers nightmare.
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you should have ...3 days? right?
i mean that sounds like a hooched install or something cause there is no way it should detect different hardware with just a frequency change.... i mean if the cpu auto throttles it should set of the same alarms
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Re: Windows 7 RC1 Candidate
I have never been asked for reactivation.
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Re: Windows 7 RC1 Candidate
I've got Xp, Vista and 7 and different drives and boot to whichever I want. When Vista came out I was still using XP for quite a while until drivers, bugs etc were worked out. But with 7 I am using it almost 100% of the time and it is still only the RC.
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as i've in other threads... i find win7's RC1 as good as Vista's pre rc and rc1...
About the same number of bugs between the two that i've encountered.. obviously not the same ones though. I just hope they solve the Start Menu reconfiguration issues.... i like to super organize my start menus as well as the All users account start menu's.... everytime i try this in win7... it present a problem and actually makes it exponentially worse... (i've reported it to ms everytime i've tried a new build.....)
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a friend of mine, who is a HC Linux lover, tried Win7 on his rig... now, he hates any kind of wide range mass commercial products, but he says it's great...
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using it as of a few minutes ago, first impression...... GREAT! im only running 1Gb of RAM currently....
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1. Nvidia drivers don't support HDCP yet
2. PowerDVD 7.3 doesn't work 3. Arcsoft TotalMedia 2.xxx don't work. 4. The new Media Center feels even more bloated than the bloated Media Center on Vista. Therefore I've went back to Vista on my HTPC. But besides that it seems like a good OS. I will be installing it on my desktop once it is back up. |
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yeah the nvidia drivers are failing again with an adaptation that works with the new windows.....
I haven't bothered with powerdvd 7.x since i got blu-ray..... actually got powerdvd 9.. both 8 and nine work without issue
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Even with the current nutered state of Superfetch I will not go back. I don't quite have that awesome feeling about it but there's some things done a little bit better all over the place. On the other hand I feel like this can't have been an honest release candidate target but rather a dressed up beta 2. With a release candidate you much rather delay than "put out what you have" when there are plenty of known issues that are in the loop to be worked out before release. Not that this marketing move means anything for the final product.
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Re: Windows 7 RC1 Candidate
Actually, I've got a question for you guys using the RC, as I've only played around with Windows 7 in a virtual machine.
How smooth is using Vista drivers for Windows 7, overall? I ask because my main desktop is a fairly old system (see specs), and getting RAID set up is already not a smooth process on Vista. My motherboard chipset has been relegated to legacy status by nvidia, so if the Vista drivers don't work with minimal issues in 7, that would really kill most of my incentive to upgrade. Quote:
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I haven't encountered any problems with Vista drivers under Windows 7. Very few parts in the driver model has changed and even with graphics where it has changed it wasn't enough to hurt gaming performance using Vista drivers. However with a NF4 chipset I'd look for user stories first if you are using RAID on the system drive.
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Re: Windows 7 RC1 Candidate
I like the fact that it seems to have way more drivers ready to install then Xp/Vista every did. On my laptop it found drivers I never would have guess it found.
It also found my wireless car, video cards and other stuff when I installed it on my desktop. Overall I have no issues with it. I don't install tons and tons of hard core programs and whatever so I can't say how that works, just in general the OS is just fast all around. And I love all the eye candy
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After the debacle that they had with drivers when Vista came out they certainly were not going to go thru that again, so they re-worked Vista and made it the way it should have been two years ago. Also there are now allot more 64bit drivers available for current hardware so that problem is also minimal. But I still need my webcam to work, Da**it !!
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