ATi Catalyst Control Center

EcPercy · Sep 18, 2004, 06:07 PM

I think that this new control panel is aimed at the newer computer user. I don't like it at all and I won't be installing it again until it is the only control panel that they offer. (Let's hope that doesn't happen)

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 18, 2004, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EcPercy

I think that this new control panel is aimed at the newer computer user. I don't like it at all and I won't be installing it again until it is the only control panel that they offer. (Let's hope that doesn't happen)

eventually it will

Droping the old CP in on thier to do list, though delayed, for now the old cp will linger on... wich hurts you in the long run becouse inted of consentarteing alll thier efforts of CCC and improvements they will be wateing so time with a funky ages old CP

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Originally Posted by PoopyTheJ

As soon as I get windows reinstalled and everything up and running you got it, hop on teamspeak sometime, mr anti-social and join us.

you just ask me when i got #@$% to do!

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Originally Posted by nheimler

i'm a big fan of changes...but this....too bloated. it takes forever to move between menus on my 9800 se. maye if i bad one of them x800 series models it'd look good.

fortunately for me i've decided to turn to nvidia for my next video card upgrade as doom 3 and the new madden 05 that came out yesterday do not to do well with the powercolor 9800 se model i bought over 6 months ago. and no before anyone says anything it can't be modded. tried it and from the results this was definately one that didn't qualify unfortunately. so maybe when i upgrade my machine and the x800 series are below 200 bucks i can once again see what the ccc is like.

It's a SE you knew that when you bought it wasn't the best model....

ROFL to base your purchace on Doom III is insane as basing it on the fps you get in PONG... Same goes for any ment to be played game "designed" to run faster on nvidia

...

Warpy · Sep 19, 2004, 12:18 AM

Not a fan either........ blue screens my pc.

Rosco[CoF] · Sep 19, 2004, 05:28 AM

Voted.
I liked it, but it seems sluggish and operated like it had a lot of overhead going on.
And thats with a AMD 3200+ AthlonXP and a Radeon 9800 Pro.
I used it for a day or so, and removed it to go back to the old control panel.
I did notice that when I changed the skin to use the system skin instead of the bloated Windowblinds skin it moved along a little bit faster, but not responsive enough for me to warrent keeping it.

Maybe if they removed the Windowblinds feature and reduced the .NET usage, it might prove to be more responsive.

mainman · Sep 19, 2004, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BWX

Forget about the CCC and all the driver "fluff" (useless special affects)-

Put out a video card that beats the 6800GT's price/performance ratio, sell it for 50 dollars less- ($350USD or so), then ATI will be back on track and nobody will be able to complain about anything.

Make all the CCC's you want after that because it won't matter. What counts is what you get for your money (**the hardware**), the money it cost and the performance it delivers compared to the competition.

That's all that matters. Remember the 9700pro? Nobody cared about the drivers then because the 9700p killed the ti4600 and did it at a good price.

If ATI goes back to that business plan instead of hyped up, bloated control panels, ATI would be in a much better position.
People aren't that easily fooled, and their memory is not that short.

The X800 series are great cards, but they are expensive as hell and even if they are "as good as" the competition, they don't beat them into submission like the 9700pro did..

Amen Brother!!!! I just hope Ati is listening and does something about it!!!

~~HawK~~ · Sep 19, 2004, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BWX
Forget about the CCC and all the driver "fluff" (useless special affects)-

Put out a video card that beats the 6800GT's price/performance ratio, sell it for 50 dollars less- ($350USD or so), then ATI will be back on track and nobody will be able to complain about anything.

What amazes me is the X800 series chip is cheaper to make than the 6800 chip, still those cards cost ~$100 more than the 6800 but it is lower in capability & speed, and how does ATI react to that? they give us the CCC...

IamLakota · Sep 19, 2004, 03:24 PM

On my Xt rig it's ok but needs some major work.

Neon · Sep 19, 2004, 05:14 PM

Awful, slow and buggy. Please keep the old control panel.

nheimler · Sep 19, 2004, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

It's a SE you knew that when you bought it wasn't the best model....

ROFL to base your purchace on Doom III is insane as basing it on the fps you get in PONG... Same goes for any ment to be played game "designed" to run faster on nvidia

...

actually doom 3 didn't play too bad if i knocked out some of the special affects. and yeah i knew it wasn't the best model but from the reviews it wasn't a bad card either. unlike some people i can't afford to buy a 400 or 500 dollar card when one comes out. i may be a computer tech as well, but i work for a library system and unfortunately we don't make as much as most techs do. my little bro who is still using an old nvidia mx card has decided to take it off my hands, so i could upgrade to little bit better card.

Junkguy · Sep 20, 2004, 03:37 AM

Does it use up a lot of system ram? I only have 512mb ram

The_Neon_Cowboy · Sep 20, 2004, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mainman

Amen Brother!!!! I just hope Ati is listening and does something about it!!!

Well If ATI had the qunity out that they should of had the MSRP is...

$499 X800 XT PE
NA X800 XT
$399 X800 Pro
NA X700

now asumeing they had gotten the quanity out that they should of you'd be seeing prices $50 -100 less then msrp.

But as luck had it big OEM orders (they get first dibs), massive demand & pre orders, some possable problems biggest being a mass momry shortage of the chips they needed...

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Originally Posted by HawK

What amazes me is the X800 series chip is cheaper to make than the 6800 chip, still those cards cost ~$100 more than the 6800 but it is lower in capability & speed, and how does ATI react to that? they give us the CCC...

Between now and october 15 cards "should" start showing up

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Originally Posted by nheimler

actually doom 3 didn't play too bad if i knocked out some of the special affects. and yeah i knew it wasn't the best model but from the reviews it wasn't a bad card either. unlike some people i can't afford to buy a 400 or 500 dollar card when one comes out. i may be a computer tech as well, but i work for a library system and unfortunately we don't make as much as most techs do. my little bro who is still using an old nvidia mx card has decided to take it off my hands, so i could upgrade to little bit better card.

If your going to buy better wait 512mb cards are around the corner!

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Originally Posted by Junkguy

Does it use up a lot of system ram? I only have 512mb ram

So do I and it doesn't

have a prob.

uses alot of fwap file/virtual memory? YES!
uses alot of physical ram? NO!

Crazy Diamond · Sep 20, 2004, 08:02 PM

It looks pretty cool to me, good for people who don't really understand the settings.

Where has the individual DirectX and OpenGL settings gone? There's hardly anything under API specific.

Definitely a step in the right direction anyhow

mupet0000 · Jun 28, 2005, 07:01 PM

I just installed the new drivers and ccc, now when i boot up my computer i dont get the ati control pannel at the bottom and when i run ccc nothing happens, i get a error message sometimes that says "The CATALYSTtm Control Center Desktop Setup Wizard was unable to start. One possible reason is that the Runtime process is unavaliable." I only get that message when i go into the install folder and run "Wizard.exe", with anything else nothing happens and thats just stupid, do i need extra software to run this damn program?!? Ive got a
AMD Sempron 2400+ 1.6GHz
ATI Radeon 9600 PRO 256mb
Windows Xp Pro.

Please help me, ive never used ccc before so i dunno what the damn problem is

!

Thanks

m.

Sep 19, 2004, 12:18 AM	#33
Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,761 Rep Power: 0	Not a fan either........ blue screens my pc. __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Sep 19, 2004, 03:24 PM	#37
IamLakota HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Viriginia Posts: 552 Rep Power: 0	On my Xt rig it's ok but needs some major work. __________________ Harley Davidson: If You Have To Ask You Wouldn't Understand!!! System Specs: Mobo:Asus P6T Deluxe V2,intel i7 920,2x BFG GTX 250 oc in SLI,Corsair 6gigs tri channel pc12800CL8 2xWD Velociraptor's 2x74gig WD Raptor , X-Fi Fatal1ty Titainium,HANNS-G HG281HD 1080p 28" monitor,Coolermaster HAF/922,PC-PWR&Cooling Sliencer 750,CoolerMaster V8 HSF

Sep 19, 2004, 05:14 PM	#38
Neon DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Darlington,UK Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Awful, slow and buggy. Please keep the old control panel. __________________ Abit IS7 P4c 3.2Ghz Radeon X800 XT (500/500) 1024Mb OCZ PC3200 Platinum EL Dual channel 2x 120GB Seagate 7200.7 SATA HDD Audigy 2 Enermax EG465AX PSU etc etc...........

Sep 20, 2004, 03:37 AM	#40
Junkguy PC Game Modder Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 731 Rep Power: 0	Does it use up a lot of system ram? I only have 512mb ram __________________ P4 2.66GHz, ATI Radeon 9800 PRO 128MB, WinXP, 1024MB DDR, 120GB WD, 2.5Mbps/400kbps DSL, 17" LCD E171FPb, SBLive! 5.1 Digital, Logitech Z2300 2.1 400Watts

Jun 28, 2005, 07:01 PM	#43
mupet0000 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Please help me i cant lauch it!! I just installed the new drivers and ccc, now when i boot up my computer i dont get the ati control pannel at the bottom and when i run ccc nothing happens, i get a error message sometimes that says "The CATALYSTtm Control Center Desktop Setup Wizard was unable to start. One possible reason is that the Runtime process is unavaliable." I only get that message when i go into the install folder and run "Wizard.exe", with anything else nothing happens and thats just stupid, do i need extra software to run this damn program?!? Ive got a AMD Sempron 2400+ 1.6GHz ATI Radeon 9600 PRO 256mb Windows Xp Pro. Please help me, ive never used ccc before so i dunno what the damn problem is ! Thanks m.

Sep 18, 2004, 06:07 PM	#31
EcPercy HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Iraq Posts: 1,535 Rep Power: 0	I think that this new control panel is aimed at the newer computer user. I don't like it at all and I won't be installing it again until it is the only control panel that they offer. (Let's hope that doesn't happen)

Sep 19, 2004, 05:28 AM	#34
Rosco[CoF] HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Traverse City, MI Posts: 158 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Voted. I liked it, but it seems sluggish and operated like it had a lot of overhead going on. And thats with a AMD 3200+ AthlonXP and a Radeon 9800 Pro. I used it for a day or so, and removed it to go back to the old control panel. I did notice that when I changed the skin to use the system skin instead of the bloated Windowblinds skin it moved along a little bit faster, but not responsive enough for me to warrent keeping it. Maybe if they removed the Windowblinds feature and reduced the .NET usage, it might prove to be more responsive.

Sep 20, 2004, 08:02 PM	#42
Crazy Diamond DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wiltshire, UK Posts: 87 Rep Power: 0	It looks pretty cool to me, good for people who don't really understand the settings. Where has the individual DirectX and OpenGL settings gone? There's hardly anything under API specific. Definitely a step in the right direction anyhow