Next Gaming Console Purchase

SecretAgentMan · Feb 17, 2005, 07:16 AM

Xbox2, the only good console choice to make other than Nintendo. Sony sells junk and they always will.

teh_moleman · Feb 19, 2005, 01:15 AM

Just saying "a PC is more powerful than any console so it's better" isn't a very good argument. Consoles are all about the games and not their power. Sure, you guys have super computers that can run anything, but you can't play Metroid, Zelda, Gran Turismo, etc on them.

Anyway, I chose ps3, though I'd eventually get the Nintendo console as well. But of course, I'll always have my PC around

Nforce2XP · Feb 19, 2005, 02:01 AM

well Nintendo for me

,i want ot see the next zelda and RE evil LOL

Lindy · Feb 20, 2005, 03:34 AM

Kind of a lame poll when you think about it. This website is for.............PC enthusiasts with powerful PC's for the most part...oh and ATI fanboys so the PC in the lead is no suprise.

Truth is console game sales kill PC game sales. 1 in every 10 PC games makes money. If you cant see the trend all ready open your eyes. More and more games are coming out for console first......then PC and then its a lame port most of the time. Ghost Recon II is great example.

Think about how easy it is to write a console game compared to a PC game....one set hardware PERIOD! One OS, one set of drivers! Testing on one platform, one OS, and one set of drivers for sound and video is so much more compressed time wise compared to the PC. After release support is probably 1/1000th compared to patch after patch for most PC games. If I was a game maker....no way would I write for PC's.

The only thing the PC has over the console is high res and the ability to use high end graphics. The next gen of consoles will even that up, and with more and more people getting wide screen HD tv's its even better......I also have a Grand Wega II 50inch LCD tv...looks good with Xbox HD games.

Xbox 360 for me.

Pluvious · Feb 20, 2005, 06:15 AM

I hear ya Lindy but don't forget the power of being able to modify your .ini files and have save points on the fly. Consoles are lacking in those departments. and I for one don't like to sacrifice the flexablity of being able to change my fov and other such fine tuning that the console games will never allow. I had to give up on Halo2 online due to the fact that the 60 fov was unplayable. Not to mention the low res textures. Face it.. once you get the high end PC equipment, seeing crapy console texture quality is hard to swallow, even if the game is AAA.

MoonSugar · Feb 20, 2005, 07:53 AM

NINTENDO REVOLUTION

Instead of promoting high-end specs, Nintendo plans to introduce something completley different. Apparently they have something that will "change the way you play games."

They've been highly secretive about revealing info about the new system, except for one fact, and that it supports Computer monitors out-of-the box.

BWX · Feb 20, 2005, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lindy

Kind of a lame poll when you think about it. This website is for.............PC enthusiasts with powerful PC's for the most part...oh and ATI fanboys so the PC in the lead is no suprise.

Kind of a lame post since the PS3 is winning and there are obviously MANY people here at DH that have consoles and plan to buy more. What difference does it make if people like ATI or Nvidia in this poll??

PS3 ------------------------ 495 ---- 28.88%
XBOX2 --------------------- 419 ---- 24.45%
Next Nintendo -------------- 328 ---- 19.14%
None-Gaming is for the PC -- 472 ---- 27.54%

sc3000 · Feb 20, 2005, 06:56 PM

I pick the one that will have better image quality, and thats xbox2

swatX · Feb 22, 2005, 10:41 AM

xbox2 : halo2.5 , halo3 , mech assault 3 , nfs:?? , ninja gaiden 2 , fable 2 etc etc

LeanWolf · Feb 22, 2005, 01:23 PM

Maybe consoles are better when it comes to quick action games, which they sell alot of and don't bother porting to PC, but the more serious games usually get ported and are much better on PC.
For example Morrowind, a huge open-ended RPG. The intertwining main quest and inumerable side quests led to alot of strange conflicts and bugs. These were all eventually found and patched for the PC, however XBOX players were poop out of luck. You're thinking that's what game testing is for, but this game is so monstrously large that it would have taken several months of testing. Console commands were also available to PC players to easily fix small annoying problems, or even cheat if desired. The XBOX version also had cheats, but very limited compared to PC. All sorts of user-created content, including new material, game enhancements and even an optimizer for the engine were made available only to PC players. And finally there's the resolution, a persuasive argument by itself.
Consoles are great for those linear, quick-fix gaming interludes, but for a serious gaming experience, give me a PC.

Lindy · Feb 23, 2005, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWX

Kind of a lame post since the PS3 is winning and there are obviously MANY people here at DH that have consoles and plan to buy more. What difference does it make if people like ATI or Nvidia in this poll??

PS3 ------------------------ 495 ---- 28.88%
XBOX2 --------------------- 419 ---- 24.45%
Next Nintendo -------------- 328 ---- 19.14%
None-Gaming is for the PC -- 472 ---- 27.54%

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Not when I posted and not right now. Its all about money plain and simple. If the trend continues PC games will for the most part (not totally) fade away. Of course the "console" will almost become a PC some day.

I am sure the Xbox2 will basically be a game console plus most of the features of Windows XP media center edition....play DVD's, possibly surf the internet, record TV?????? The first version of the xbox does some of that now.

Lindy · Feb 23, 2005, 04:13 PM

Here you go..................

[color=white]http://booboo.phpwebhosting.com/~ubiq/index.php?[/color]p=144

For those of you wondering why all your favorite developers are abandoning PC for console development:

[color=#a00000]Press announcement #1[/color] (1 Dec 04)

IRVINE, Calif. - December 1, 2004 - Blizzard Entertainment® today confirmed that World of Warcraft® has broken day-one sales records in North America, making it the most successful PC game launch ever. World of Warcraft, the company’s subscription-based massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG), sold through to over 240,000 customers at retailers in North America on Tuesday, November 23, selling more in its first 24 hours than any other PC game in history.

[color=#a00000]Press announcement #2[/color] (10 Nov 04):

Microsoft beat even its own heady expectations for the hotly anticipated Xbox game “Halo 2,” selling more than $125 million of the product its first day in stores. The software giant on Wednesday reported sales of 2.38 million units for the game in the 24 hours since it went on sale in the United States and Canada at 12:01 a.m. Tuesday.

[color=#a00000]Press announcement #2.5[/color] (3 Dec 04):

Microsoft has released a swathe of new figures related to Bungie’s Xbox opus, Halo 2, revealing that the title has now sold over five million units worldwide and become the most popular game in the history of Xbox Live.

Lindy · Feb 23, 2005, 04:18 PM

Doing some more searching it just gets worse......

Annual 2004 Top 10 Video Game Titles, Ranked By Units SoldRANKTITLEPLATFORMPUBLISHERRELEASEARP1Grand Theft Auto: San AndreasPS2Take TwoOct'04$492Halo 2XBXMicrosoftNov'04$523Madden NFL 2005PS2Electronic ArtsAug'04$494ESPN NFL 2K5PS2Take TwoJul'04$195Need For Speed: Underground 2PS2Electronic ArtsNov'04$486Pokemon Fire RedGBANintendoSep'04$327NBA Live 2005PS2Electronic ArtsSep'04$338Spider-Man: The Movie 2PS2ActivisionJun'04$439HaloXBXMicrosoftNov'01$291 0ESPN NFL 2K5XBXTake TwoJul'04$19

Edit try this link.....

http://www.pcvsconsole.com/news.php?nid=2909

Feb 20, 2005, 03:34 AM	#34
Lindy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	Kind of a lame poll when you think about it. This website is for.............PC enthusiasts with powerful PC's for the most part...oh and ATI fanboys so the PC in the lead is no suprise. Truth is console game sales kill PC game sales. 1 in every 10 PC games makes money. If you cant see the trend all ready open your eyes. More and more games are coming out for console first......then PC and then its a lame port most of the time. Ghost Recon II is great example. Think about how easy it is to write a console game compared to a PC game....one set hardware PERIOD! One OS, one set of drivers! Testing on one platform, one OS, and one set of drivers for sound and video is so much more compressed time wise compared to the PC. After release support is probably 1/1000th compared to patch after patch for most PC games. If I was a game maker....no way would I write for PC's. The only thing the PC has over the console is high res and the ability to use high end graphics. The next gen of consoles will even that up, and with more and more people getting wide screen HD tv's its even better......I also have a Grand Wega II 50inch LCD tv...looks good with Xbox HD games. Xbox 360 for me. Last edited by Lindy; Feb 20, 2005 at 03:39 AM.

Feb 20, 2005, 06:15 AM	#35
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,318 Rep Power: 0	I hear ya Lindy but don't forget the power of being able to modify your .ini files and have save points on the fly. Consoles are lacking in those departments. and I for one don't like to sacrifice the flexablity of being able to change my fov and other such fine tuning that the console games will never allow. I had to give up on Halo2 online due to the fact that the 60 fov was unplayable. Not to mention the low res textures. Face it.. once you get the high end PC equipment, seeing crapy console texture quality is hard to swallow, even if the game is AAA. __________________

Feb 22, 2005, 10:41 AM	#39
swatX ba\|\\|\\|ed Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 618 Rep Power: 0	xbox2 : halo2.5 , halo3 , mech assault 3 , nfs:?? , ninja gaiden 2 , fable 2 etc etc __________________ thx stick for the sig

Feb 22, 2005, 01:23 PM	#40
LeanWolf alpha male Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Skyrim Posts: 5,713 Rep Power: 84 System Specs	Maybe consoles are better when it comes to quick action games, which they sell alot of and don't bother porting to PC, but the more serious games usually get ported and are much better on PC. For example Morrowind, a huge open-ended RPG. The intertwining main quest and inumerable side quests led to alot of strange conflicts and bugs. These were all eventually found and patched for the PC, however XBOX players were poop out of luck. You're thinking that's what game testing is for, but this game is so monstrously large that it would have taken several months of testing. Console commands were also available to PC players to easily fix small annoying problems, or even cheat if desired. The XBOX version also had cheats, but very limited compared to PC. All sorts of user-created content, including new material, game enhancements and even an optimizer for the engine were made available only to PC players. And finally there's the resolution, a persuasive argument by itself. Consoles are great for those linear, quick-fix gaming interludes, but for a serious gaming experience, give me a PC. __________________

Feb 23, 2005, 04:13 PM	#42
Lindy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	Here you go.................. [color=white]http://booboo.phpwebhosting.com/~ubiq/index.php?[/color]p=144 For those of you wondering why all your favorite developers are abandoning PC for console development: [color=#a00000]Press announcement #1[/color] (1 Dec 04) IRVINE, Calif. - December 1, 2004 - Blizzard Entertainment® today confirmed that World of Warcraft® has broken day-one sales records in North America, making it the most successful PC game launch ever. World of Warcraft, the company’s subscription-based massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG), sold through to over 240,000 customers at retailers in North America on Tuesday, November 23, selling more in its first 24 hours than any other PC game in history. [color=#a00000]Press announcement #2[/color] (10 Nov 04): Microsoft beat even its own heady expectations for the hotly anticipated Xbox game “Halo 2,” selling more than $125 million of the product its first day in stores. The software giant on Wednesday reported sales of 2.38 million units for the game in the 24 hours since it went on sale in the United States and Canada at 12:01 a.m. Tuesday. [color=#a00000]Press announcement #2.5[/color] (3 Dec 04): Microsoft has released a swathe of new figures related to Bungie’s Xbox opus, Halo 2, revealing that the title has now sold over five million units worldwide and become the most popular game in the history of Xbox Live.

Feb 17, 2005, 07:16 AM	#31
SecretAgentMan DriverHeaven Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 98 Rep Power: 0	Xbox2, the only good console choice to make other than Nintendo. Sony sells junk and they always will.

Feb 19, 2005, 01:15 AM	#32
teh_moleman DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: FL Posts: 103 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Just saying "a PC is more powerful than any console so it's better" isn't a very good argument. Consoles are all about the games and not their power. Sure, you guys have super computers that can run anything, but you can't play Metroid, Zelda, Gran Turismo, etc on them. Anyway, I chose ps3, though I'd eventually get the Nintendo console as well. But of course, I'll always have my PC around

Feb 19, 2005, 02:01 AM	#33
Nforce2XP DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Los angeles Posts: 201 Rep Power: 0	well Nintendo for me ,i want ot see the next zelda and RE evil LOL

Feb 20, 2005, 07:53 AM	#36
MoonSugar DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	NINTENDO REVOLUTION Instead of promoting high-end specs, Nintendo plans to introduce something completley different. Apparently they have something that will "change the way you play games." They've been highly secretive about revealing info about the new system, except for one fact, and that it supports Computer monitors out-of-the box.

Feb 20, 2005, 06:56 PM	#38
sc3000 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New York Posts: 225 Rep Power: 0	I pick the one that will have better image quality, and thats xbox2

Feb 23, 2005, 04:18 PM	#43
Lindy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	Doing some more searching it just gets worse...... Annual 2004 Top 10 Video Game Titles, Ranked By Units SoldRANKTITLEPLATFORMPUBLISHERRELEASEARP1Grand Theft Auto: San AndreasPS2Take TwoOct'04$492Halo 2XBXMicrosoftNov'04$523Madden NFL 2005PS2Electronic ArtsAug'04$494ESPN NFL 2K5PS2Take TwoJul'04$195Need For Speed: Underground 2PS2Electronic ArtsNov'04$486Pokemon Fire RedGBANintendoSep'04$327NBA Live 2005PS2Electronic ArtsSep'04$338Spider-Man: The Movie 2PS2ActivisionJun'04$439HaloXBXMicrosoftNov'01$291 0ESPN NFL 2K5XBXTake TwoJul'04$19 Edit try this link..... http://www.pcvsconsole.com/news.php?nid=2909